Bought a Food Thermometer Today

[Mo Lee]

Managed to get the Spyder out again today after fighting a summer cold all week. Today the air Temps were 91-97 during the couple of hours we were out. Riding two up on the backroads at 50-55 MPH the oven thermometer held at 106, on the interstate at 70-75 it was running between 112-120. any time you stop the temps spike real fast to 150-165, in probably less than one minute. I have now removed two of the lower panels and plan to ride it to work tomorrow to see if there is a change. Also as we returned home the Wife said there was a strong gas smell from the extension tube that I ran to the rear of the Spyder from the cannister.

 

[boborgera]

Also as we returned home the Wife said there was a strong gas smell from the extension tube that I ran to the rear of the Spyder from the cannister.

On hot days 90+ I also get a strong smell but it's not gas per say, more like the odor of alcohol [ethanol?]. Crazy as it sounds it's like the ethanol is separating from the gas evaporating, and coming out the tube as a vapor.:dontknow:

 

[jimclarkf1]

THANK MO

very interesting and it proves that you are VERY SMART:clap:

 

[BajaRon]

Who can guess where I plan to place the sensor.

Oh! You've Got to be kidding with this question!!!!

The possibilities are Endless... :yikes:

But I will defer to wiser, and more genteel minds.

 

[canam9]

Very Nice!

:thumbup: :ani29:

 

[spyryder]

Managed to get the Spyder out again today after fighting a summer cold all week. Today the air Temps were 91-97 during the couple of hours we were out. Riding two up on the backroads at 50-55 MPH the oven thermometer held at 106, on the interstate at 70-75 it was running between 112-120. any time you stop the temps spike real fast to 150-165, in probably less than one minute. I have now removed two of the lower panels and plan to ride it to work tomorrow to see if there is a change. Also as we returned home the Wife said there was a strong gas smell from the extension tube that I ran to the rear of the Spyder from the cannister.

How about trying it on your car or another vehicle for comparison.opcorn:

 

[SpyderWolf]

How about trying it on your car or another vehicle for comparison.opcorn:

The temp gauges in our 89 Corvette normally read 225 for oil temp and between 170 and 196 for water temp, depending on how it is being driven. So the temps that Mo is seeing on the Spyder don't appear to be very high at all, and definitely within a normal engine operating range. I think the bigger issue that is being looked at here is where the heat has to dissipate to on the Spyder, which is your feet and legs mostly the right one.

 

[groundeffect]

Very cool experiment and interesting results.

thanks for sharing!
Dean

Ok I located the food Probe in what I'll call the Spyder Oven and put the digital readout in the drink holder where it can be seen.
Took the Spyder out for a small ride and was suprised how low the temps were while you are moving. The Spyder gauge said 77-80 degrees ambient temps during the ride and the area around the charcoal cannister was only 96-100 at 45-50 mph. Interstate 75-80 mph the temp was 115-120. every time I would stop the temps would climb fast, as much as 25 degrees while waiting for the light to change. Parked it would climb to 145-150 in around 1 minute with the engine shut off. Stop and let the bike idle it climbed to 160 degrees and when the Spyder reached 5 bars it actually started dropping when the fan came on.
We are supposed to have temps over 100 this week and I plan on checking it again. Then I want to try a few things to see if it will lower the temps. ie removing the lower splash shields and etc.
I must admit the temps are lower than I expected.

 

[Mo Lee]

The temp gauges in our 89 Corvette normally read 225 for oil temp and between 170 and 196 for water temp, depending on how it is being driven. So the temps that Mo is seeing on the Spyder don't appear to be very high at all, and definitely within a normal engine operating range. I think the bigger issue that is being looked at here is where the heat has to dissipate to on the Spyder, which is your feet and legs mostly the right one.

I'm not trying to measure the engine temps, I'm trying to get a feel for the air temps around the charcoal cannister. Take a close look at the pics and you will see the sensor is zip tied to rubber lines a few inches away from the engine.

 

[Mo Lee]

Managed to get the Spyder out again today after fighting a summer cold all week. Today the air Temps were 91-97 during the couple of hours we were out. Riding two up on the backroads at 50-55 MPH the oven thermometer held at 106, on the interstate at 70-75 it was running between 112-120. any time you stop the temps spike real fast to 150-165, in probably less than one minute. I have now removed two of the lower panels and plan to ride it to work tomorrow to see if there is a change. Also as we returned home the Wife said there was a strong gas smell from the extension tube that I ran to the rear of the Spyder from the cannister.

Today the weather cooperated and gave an air temp of 102 on my trip home from work. With the splash panels off it was running about 135 at 35-40 mpg, and about the same at 50-55mph, and on the interstate 70-75 the temps were 115-124. with the panels off it may run warmer a slower speeds and slightly cooler on the interstate. Also it may cool down a little faster once the Spyder is stopped and shut off.

 

[Mo Lee]

Experiment 2

Today the weather cooperated and gave an air temp of 102 on my trip home from work. With the splash panels off it was running about 135 at 35-40 mpg, and about the same at 50-55mph, and on the interstate 70-75 the temps were 115-124. with the panels off it may run warmer a slower speeds and slightly cooler on the interstate. Also it may cool down a little faster once the Spyder is stopped and shut off.

Today I wrapped the exhaust pipes and left the panels off. Test ride the air temps were running around 96 degrees. Running 45-50 mph temps at the sensor was 100 to 105. Interstate from 65 to 85 mph temps stayed below 112. In town thru the red lights the highest temp reached was 150 at one red light and it seemed like the temp spikes when I stopped raised slower than before. I believe all the way around it does run cooler with the wrap and I was surprised how much better the Spyder runs now. Since going to the HMF the Spyder has had some hesitation on low speed acceleration and some popping on decelleration, most of this seems gone now. The wrap cost me 30 bucks and I don't want to wrap another one. Took me and the wife a couple of hours and yes that is my blood in one picture. It is not an easy job but I'm glad I did it.

 

[Mo Lee]

I also noticed where I ran the extension hose to the rear halfway down the swingarm I have an oil film on the swingarm coming from the hose. I realize gasoline is a product of oil however I've never seen it leave an oil film when it evaporates.

 

[SpyderWolf]

Today I wrapped the exhaust pipes and left the panels off. Test ride the air temps were running around 96 degrees. Running 45-50 mph temps at the sensor was 100 to 105. Interstate from 65 to 85 mph temps stayed below 112. In town thru the red lights the highest temp reached was 150 at one red light and it seemed like the temp spikes when I stopped raised slower than before. I believe all the way around it does run cooler with the wrap and I was surprised how much better the Spyder runs now. Since going to the HMF the Spyder has had some hesitation on low speed acceleration and some popping on decelleration, most of this seems gone now. The wrap cost me 30 bucks and I don't want to wrap another one. Took me and the wife a couple of hours and yes that is my blood in one picture. It is not an easy job but I'm glad I did it.

Very interesting results. I wrapped my exhaust pipe last weekend, and my wife wrapped hers today. Patience is a must when doing it, and there are plenty of spots to cause blood shedding as well. I hope it was all worth it for you, as I know I am very happy since doing it. :thumbup:

 

[Pilo]

Gas tank...

It will be interesting to know temperatures inside the gas tank and of the gasoline itself, after a warm day ride.

I am sure the results will surprise a few of us... :yikes:

Saludos, Pilo

 

[Mo Lee]

It will be interesting to know temperatures inside the gas tank and of the gasoline itself, after a warm day ride.

I am sure the results will surprise a few of us... :yikes:

Saludos, Pilo

Not sure how to Safely check the fuel Temps. I don't think the temps in this area is causing the fires, however I do think high temps may make it more likely to happen. Just wanted to add that due to another post in another thread.

 

[bjt]

Today I wrapped the exhaust pipes and left the panels off. Test ride the air temps were running around 96 degrees. Running 45-50 mph temps at the sensor was 100 to 105. Interstate from 65 to 85 mph temps stayed below 112. In town thru the red lights the highest temp reached was 150 at one red light and it seemed like the temp spikes when I stopped raised slower than before. I believe all the way around it does run cooler with the wrap and I was surprised how much better the Spyder runs now. Since going to the HMF the Spyder has had some hesitation on low speed acceleration and some popping on decelleration, most of this seems gone now. The wrap cost me 30 bucks and I don't want to wrap another one. Took me and the wife a couple of hours and yes that is my blood in one picture. It is not an easy job but I'm glad I did it.

Is this your last test / experiment?

 

[Mo Lee]

Is this your last test / experiment?

Any ideas?