Both head lights started blinking then went out

[bluestratos]

I was putting my 14 RT SE6 away and noticed both head lights blink, then when I reved up the started to blink off and on quickly then went out altogether. I have not yet opened things up but I did check the wiring diagram andmy best guess is that it is the relay but before I tear into it I wanted to check with others to see if anyone else has had this problem. I suspect the relay is loose and the vibration from the engine when reved up caused it to rattle then stop making contract all together.
I do have after market HID's but they plug into the same circuit followed by their own individual relays than the ballasts. Since both out at the same time my thought is that it has to be before the HID system.

The head lamp circuit also runs toward the (fog light?) but it does not appear to go anywhere. The fog lights are fed from a shared circuit on a 20 amp fuse along with a seperate relay and I believe my fog lights were still working after the headlights went out.

 

[SpyderAnn01]

I'm having an issue with my stock headlights, the left light has gone out twice now. We are going to dig into it soon and then replace the stock lights with LEDs. Good luck Randy and let us know what you figure out.

 

[jtoro1]

I was putting my 14 RT SE6 away and noticed both head lights blink, then when I reved up the started to blink off and on quickly then went out altogether. I have not yet opened things up but I did check the wiring diagram andmy best guess is that it is the relay but before I tear into it I wanted to check with others to see if anyone else has had this problem. I suspect the relay is loose and the vibration from the engine when reved up caused it to rattle then stop making contract all together.
I do have after market HID's but they plug into the same circuit followed by their own individual relays than the ballasts. Since both out at the same time my thought is that it has to be before the HID system.

The head lamp circuit also runs toward the (fog light?) but it does not appear to go anywhere. The fog lights are fed from a shared circuit on a 20 amp fuse along with a seperate relay and I believe my fog lights were still working after the headlights went out.

Check The relay that stitches the head lights on most likely it is the relay exchange it with another relay with the same number in the relay box for checking if the relay

 

[bluestratos]

That is what I was thinking of doing for a test. Since the lights are controlled through the computer and not switched it makes sense that it would be the relay or the 30 amp fuse, more likely the relay by the way it behaved.

Thanks

 

[jerpinoy]

Most problems happens after anybody added any farkles. Modification of any electrical circuit is so innocent looking but can cause problems if done wrong.
Randy if I may suggest try to return your electrical system to the original state and I'm sure you'll find what causing your problems. Good luck.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

LED's

I'm having an issue with my stock headlights, the left light has gone out twice now. We are going to dig into it soon and then replace the stock lights with LEDs. Good luck Randy and let us know what you figure out.

:2excited:...Ann , I'd be very interested in what type of LED;'s you are going to use .....and where you will get them........Thanks .....Mike :thumbup:

 

[jcthorne]

Most problems happens after anybody added any farkles. Modification of any electrical circuit is so innocent looking but can cause problems if done wrong.
Randy if I may suggest try to return your electrical system to the original state and I'm sure you'll find what causing your problems. Good luck.

KISS

Check the relays in the box in the frunk first. Then trace the circuit from that point if they are not restored. No need to go pulling everything apart because the lights flickered out. Not yet anyway.

 

[cuznjohn]

I'm having an issue with my stock headlights, the left light has gone out twice now. We are going to dig into it soon and then replace the stock lights with LEDs. Good luck Randy and let us know what you figure out.

ann i am also interested where to get the LED headlights

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I'm having an issue with my stock headlights, the left light has gone out twice now. We are going to dig into it soon and then replace the stock lights with LEDs. Good luck Randy and let us know what you figure out.

Is this something like what you are planning on using? I've been thinking about trying them out myself.

http://www.amazon.com/TORCHSTAR-HB3...4065&sr=1-1&keywords=led+headlight+bulbs+9005

 

[Frank G]

Not to hijack or derail this thread as it is most important to find the reason for the failing headlights. This LED technology is totally amazing, and to think we have another front row seat in watching it's development. It is like watching the space program or the Commodore 64 or the bag phone to the smart phone all over again. WOW! :bowdown:

 

[jcthorne]

Those LED capsules will not work in a projector lamp system like on our bikes. Wrong light dispersion pattern. For normal auto headlamps they work well (I do not know that particular brand). But I have not seen any yet intended for use in projector style headlamp housings.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!

Those LED capsules will not work in a projector lamp system like on our bikes. Wrong light dispersion pattern. For normal auto headlamps they work well (I do not know that particular brand). But I have not seen any yet intended for use in projector style headlamp housings.

...............................I have been doing a little research on these and it appears there are different types of beam dispersion....360 and 180 degree.......Also some are actually better with Projector type reflectors...............Time will tell :2excited:......Mike :thumbup:

 

[Ben Burped]

Back to basics

I would say to start by checking the ground to the relays. There is every likelihood that it is that simple. I don't know what type of connector that you used, but I have a personal preference for 3M Scotchlock connectors. They have been around a long time and are tried and true. Also put a small amount of grease in the connector to prevent corrosion. Some of the new connectors that come free with the product don't do that well.

 

[bluestratos]

Ok, back to my problem, lol\

I just started the bike and both head lights came on. I revved to 3500 and they both start to flash on and off rapidly until I hit 4000 then they both went out. I restarted and they are back and same thing. I restarted and revved slower then the left head light went out and the right stay on. I tested the relay by swapping out and no change, the both blink on. I also tried pulling the fuse when the lights were out and bike running and as soon as I put the relay back in they come right on.

Looking at the schematic it looks as if both lights share the same wire coming from the relay then split off and go to each head light. Since either light is affected and ultimately they both go out it can not be before the shared circuit I would think.

 

[Frank G]

Attach a volt meter or trouble light to the input side of the HID transformer(s). Determine weather you have a loss of proper voltage or defective HID transformer. I am wondering weather the voltage regulator may be faulty.

 

[cptjam]

headlights

I have seen HID ballasts do weird things. Try the circuit without the HID components. Losing lights at speed is horrible! I got that t-shirt!

 

[bluestratos]

I will dig deeper on Saturday. I can disconnect the HIDs and install standard bulbs back into the circuit to see if that isolates the problem.

 

[PW2013STL]

I have seen HID ballasts do weird things. Try the circuit without the HID components. Losing lights at speed is horrible! I got that t-shirt!

I agree with Joe - ballasts.

I upgraded my standard lights in my 2000 Audi A4 to aftermarket HID's and everything worked well for about 4 months. I received a call from my wife who was returning from a trip telling me that she had no headlights. I met her down the road, but could not find a fix so had her drive my car and I followed her in the Audi using her lights to see. Turned out both ballasts went bad at the same time.

 

[bluestratos]

Well that would be an easy fix, I think I have some spares too. I will let you know what I find out on Saturday

 

[bluestratos]

The manufacture of my HIDs actually sells a module that is suppose to fix strobbing as they call it. I have a call into them but I have had the HID's for 9 months and never noticed any problem before.