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Bike to neutral

SE models cannot shift themself into neutral after the key is turned off. Also cannot shift into neutral before starting the engine. It is just impossible. The HCM uses hydraulic pressure to shift the gears. That hydraulic pressure is provided by the HCM oil pump. The oil pump is driven by the engine. When the engine is not running there is no oil pressure.

The requirement for your foot to be on the brake pedal when starting in gear or the ECM will not allow the starter to work. Is an extra step BRP programmed in. I will guess was done for safety reasons. Maybe in case there was a stuck clutch.
 
All four of the SE's have never went into neutral when downshifting to a stop. I let the :spyder2: do the downshifting on the SE's and it always stops at first.

Neutral can be shifted into with a very gently tap on the reverse paddle for 1 to N. Or...from reverse to N then a very gentle tap on the + paddle. :thumbup:
 
Maybe the hydraulic actuator is not fully ingaging the transmission into gear. After engaging first,go down (you might need a wench) see if you can move the lever farther towards engage. If you can might be why it can bounce back to N.
 
Unexpected neutral at stoplight

I have a ‘17 F-3 LTD with 16,000 miles that recently started shifting into neutralat stop lights. Aside from some surprise when hitting the the throttle and not moving, there haven’t been serious consequences. I wonder if bigger problems are on the horizon or if this is just a fluke. It happens and it never used to.
 
I have a ‘17 F-3 LTD with 16,000 miles that recently started shifting into neutralat stop lights. Aside from some surprise when hitting the the throttle and not moving, there haven’t been serious consequences. I wonder if bigger problems are on the horizon or if this is just a fluke. It happens and it never used to.
Since I don't have an F3 I haven't paid close attention to the comments, but there are comments here about the left switch assembly on the F3 having problems. Many are being replaced under warranty. Check with the dealer. You may have one ready to crap out. If the left switch is somewhat like the one on the RT, and I'm sure it is, the shift signals are sent out over the CANbus. There is a processor in the left switch that is probably flakey in the switches that have been replaced. All the paddle shifter does is tell the processor to send the appropriate signal over CANbus and the transmission control module catches it and responds accordingly.
 
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