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Are Vredestein Tires Directional? Does Ride-On come in 'bottles per tire'?
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Yabbadabbadoo
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Yes they are a directional tire. I can't comment on Ride On as I don't use it.
bikerchris1270
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Side wall will show direction of rotation if directional
Snoking1127
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This has been asked before .... I don't think they are , I have the Quatrac 5 and there aren't any Arrows on mine .... I checked the Tire Rack site and didn't see any arrows on the NEW Quatrac model either , however that Tread pattern looks directional .... Mike
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BajaRon
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I prefer the Car version of Ride-On in the Spyder. Which makes sense because we are running car tires/wheels and not motorcycle. It is less expensive and works better for balancing than the motorcycle version. You will need 2 bottles to do all 3 tires. However, if you have an out of round tire (a problem with OEM Kenda's) Ride-On can exacerbate that problem.
The Quatrac is definitely directional. They had a highly stylized arrow in the past. But you're right, I don't see any arrow on the current version. But no matter, it is a directional tire.
As per Vredestein, "The Quatrac features an all-season tread compound molded into a distinctive, directional, v-shaped pattern."
This has been asked before .... I don't think they are , I have the Quatrac 5 and there aren't any Arrows on mine .... I checked the Tire Rack site and didn't see any arrows on the NEW Quatrac model either , however that Tread pattern looks directional .... Mike
The Quatrac is definitely directional. They had a highly stylized arrow in the past. But you're right, I don't see any arrow on the current version. But no matter, it is a directional tire.
As per Vredestein, "The Quatrac features an all-season tread compound molded into a distinctive, directional, v-shaped pattern."
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BajaRon
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Snoking1127
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The Quatrac 5 is a non-directional tire: https://www.vulcantire.com/tire_detail/quatrac5_s.htm_22032
The Quatrac like I have is a directional tire: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/vredestein-quatrac
The Quatrac like I have is a directional tire: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/vredestein-quatrac
BajaRon
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I've used both the Car and Motorcycle Ride-On in all 3 tires. I much prefer the Car version for balancing. I'm told the Car version is not quite as good at sealing as the motorcycle version. But I was more interested in balance than sealant. And though I've never needed the sealing attribute, I believe it would seal just fine. A motorcycle tire has much less air volume than a car tire so sealing quickly is more important on a motorcycle. Not to mention, a flat on a Spyder isn't all that dangerous. Whereas, a flat on 2 wheels is VERY BAD!
Motorcycle tires have much less mass than car tires. So they are easier to balance, which is why the motorcycle version of Ride-On sacrifices some balancing ability in favor of quicker sealing.
I've been very happy with the Car Ride-On. If the Spyder sits more than 2 weeks, I get a bit of out-of-balance for the first 5 miles or so. Then everything evens out and the ride is smooth again.
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I can't say enough good about Ride On. When I first heard about it I thought it was all BS but after trying it I am a believer. I first heard about it from an old school Harley mechanic. I was putting a new tire on my Harley and needed some tire weights, so I called him to see if he had any. He said he did, but told me to try Ride On instead, which I did. He was so old school that if you wanted synthetic oil in your bike, he would not service it. He never serviced mine for that reason.
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Mikey
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Yes, you would remove your wheel weights. :2thumbs:
troop
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I've been using Ride-On sealant in my m/c tires for years. I had a nice talk with a Ride-On technician about which formula to use in my Spyder tires. He was very specific about these two points:
1.) He insisted that I should use the motorcycle formula even though I had car tires installed. He stated the m/c formula was preferred over auto formula in trikes.
2.) He also was adamant that I use the standard dosage versus the severe dosage amount.
I've always had good luck buying the "dented/damaged" products direct thru Ride-On. Never received any unusable product.
1.) He insisted that I should use the motorcycle formula even though I had car tires installed. He stated the m/c formula was preferred over auto formula in trikes.
2.) He also was adamant that I use the standard dosage versus the severe dosage amount.
I've always had good luck buying the "dented/damaged" products direct thru Ride-On. Never received any unusable product.
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Is the 10oz for the M/C product or the Auto/SUV product? I understand that they are not identical products.
troop
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Copy/paste
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chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.ride-onshop.com/auto_version_14.0.pdf
BajaRon
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Did he give you a reason why? I've talked to them as well and I could never get them to explain why or give any reason at all that a car tire should get a motorcycle tire product. They just kept telling me to use the motorcycle version. With detailed information on everything else they say, I find this odd. More of a mantra than fact based advise. Which, on the face of it, makes no sense at all.
I also asked them why they originally (for several years) recommended the Car tire product for the Spyder, then suddenly changed their mind. Couldn't get an answer for that either. My feeling is it's a CYA approach. Our OEM tires say 'For Motorcycle Use Only', which BRP made a big deal about right around the time that Ride-On had a change of heart. My feeling is that Ride-On doesn't want to go to court over it. Plus, most trikes have a motorcycle front wheel (which I agree, should get the M/C formula).
I've tried them both and I prefer the car tire formula in the Spyder. If Ride-On would give a coherent, rational reason for using the motorcycle formula in a car tire, I would be happy to reconsider.
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