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anyone seen this bullet b4
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M109Dreamer
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Very cool. Looks like the old flashet rounds they used in Vietnam. But now in handgun round.
Bob Denman
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Remember the Black Talon?
If the Anti's even think that it MIGHT be used to defeat body armor; this round will be dead before you know it! :gaah:
If the Anti's even think that it MIGHT be used to defeat body armor; this round will be dead before you know it! :gaah:
ARtraveler
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Good information to know. :thumbup:
Fat Crip
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That is pure, unadulterated evil. Just imagine what that would do to a human being. How sick does someone need to be to design this? On the bright side, at least international law will keep it out of military use and I'm pretty sure most law enforcement agencies would reject it too.
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Bob Denman
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Sorry... I disagree. 
That projectile is designed to dump ALL of it's kinetic energy into it's target. This helps to reduce the chance of a "pass-through", and the resuliting damge to persons and property behind the intended target.
That projectile is designed to dump ALL of it's kinetic energy into it's target. This helps to reduce the chance of a "pass-through", and the resuliting damge to persons and property behind the intended target.
ChasCS
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My ammo is reusable, yet thousands of years old.
Even though I have taken and passed with flying colours both the Unrestricted and Restricted Firearm safety courses, I still have never bothered to apply for an FAC. What for?
My silent weapons of choice, which are very safe to use are sticks and strings.
Just sharpen the razor shaving sharp tip with a few gentle strokes on the diamond hone...
Does anyone in here ever watch "Arrow"? He's a modern day Robin Hood in a sense.
Chas
Even though I have taken and passed with flying colours both the Unrestricted and Restricted Firearm safety courses, I still have never bothered to apply for an FAC. What for?
My silent weapons of choice, which are very safe to use are sticks and strings.
Just sharpen the razor shaving sharp tip with a few gentle strokes on the diamond hone...
Does anyone in here ever watch "Arrow"? He's a modern day Robin Hood in a sense.
Chas
NM Wrench
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look to youtube
Hi I too was very interested in this ammo but if you relay research it the ammo does not live up to its claims. I only use liberty defense ammo in my carry guns. It is excellent ammo!
Hi I too was very interested in this ammo but if you relay research it the ammo does not live up to its claims. I only use liberty defense ammo in my carry guns. It is excellent ammo!
USAFE7RET
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I'm not sure where you come up with the idea that it will eliminate "pass through", as just about every round did pass through the target.
This reminds me of the wad cutter hollow point .45 ACP round, which was designed to increase the expansion or "mushroom" capability of the round to decrease the chance of pass through, but was by no means a feature in its design.
As for the need for one of these rounds for a shotgun, isn't that why they have .00 buckshot rounds and flechette rounds?
I'm sure law enforcement will embrace this as they are the ones always bitching about being "outgunned" by the criminal element. I can't say I share their point of view, since I don't recall a robber using a APC in the last few years, or showing up with a MP-4 or a Remington Model 70 Sniper rifle, but that may be due to the more liberal reporting style of the St Louis, MO. news stations.
I do believe that since each bullet is machined, it will be hugely expensive for the local police departments to purchase and they may be able to get some surplus ammo from TSA, DEA, SSA, now that they really don't need it.
Seems like a engineering concept that I hope won't see the light of day beyond its current production run for testing purposes. Way to easy to fall in to the wrong hands, legal or criminal...
This reminds me of the wad cutter hollow point .45 ACP round, which was designed to increase the expansion or "mushroom" capability of the round to decrease the chance of pass through, but was by no means a feature in its design.
As for the need for one of these rounds for a shotgun, isn't that why they have .00 buckshot rounds and flechette rounds?
I'm sure law enforcement will embrace this as they are the ones always bitching about being "outgunned" by the criminal element. I can't say I share their point of view, since I don't recall a robber using a APC in the last few years, or showing up with a MP-4 or a Remington Model 70 Sniper rifle, but that may be due to the more liberal reporting style of the St Louis, MO. news stations.
I do believe that since each bullet is machined, it will be hugely expensive for the local police departments to purchase and they may be able to get some surplus ammo from TSA, DEA, SSA, now that they really don't need it.
Seems like a engineering concept that I hope won't see the light of day beyond its current production run for testing purposes. Way to easy to fall in to the wrong hands, legal or criminal...
Bob Denman
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Since the copper is much lighter than lead; it WILL slow down a lot quicker!
And since it also comes apart; that's more energy shedding in progress... :2thumbs:
It'll hit and stick; with a whole lot fewer pass-throughs...
I don't believe anybody said that it'd eliminate them anyway.
And since it also comes apart; that's more energy shedding in progress... :2thumbs:
It'll hit and stick; with a whole lot fewer pass-throughs...
I don't believe anybody said that it'd eliminate them anyway.
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SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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just what we need in america, a better bullet to kill people with
Bob Denman
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:dontknow: What would you prefer we use? :dontknow:
Let's see...
We have:
knives
bats
rope
cars
poison
gravity
bare hands
boots
eyeglasses
icepicks
machetes
chainsaws
wood-chippers
acid
antifreeze
Which have I forgotten?
Let's see...
We have:
knives
bats
rope
cars
poison
gravity
bare hands
boots
eyeglasses
icepicks
machetes
chainsaws
wood-chippers
acid
antifreeze
Which have I forgotten?
Oldmanzues
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plastic knives:dontknow: What would you prefer we use? :dontknow:
Let's see...
We have:
knives
bats
rope
cars
poison
gravity
bare hands
boots
eyeglasses
icepicks
machetes
chainsaws
Which have I forgotten?
Scout ax
Nail file
wood-chippers
acid
antifreeze
rope piano wire
drunk drivers anti frezze, the green stuff
knittin needles or just read the TSA manual
It is not the item, it is the user and how they use them
Oldmanzues
Bob Denman
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What do you think the N.S.A. folks think of us now?? :shocked:
"OhMyGawd! they're planning something... they've put together a list of lethal weapons!" :yikes:
"OhMyGawd! they're planning something... they've put together a list of lethal weapons!" :yikes:
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
New member
:dontknow: What would you prefer we use? :dontknow:
Let's see...
We have:
knives
bats
rope
cars
poison
gravity
bare hands
boots
eyeglasses
icepicks
machetes
chainsaws
wood-chippers
acid
antifreeze
Which have I forgotten?
neck ties
high voltage
tnt.....done dirt cheap
Bob Denman
New member
spydaman60
New member
now here ya go bob!
they'll be at your door tommorrow and the poor wife is going to lose her knitting needles cause they're
out in plain site!:roflblack::roflblack:
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