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another fried spyder!!!!!!!!!!!

Nah, it's all good! Nobody's calling you a liar and if anyone did, just ignore them. Who cares! I think when it all boils down, no matter who is getting their panties in a wad over this or that, if someone needs a question answered, help with something for their :spyder2:, we'd all be right there to lend a hand regardless of what is said in here.

Agreed, just like a large family. We will fight amongst each other but we will be there to help out when the occasion arises.
 
I know I'm the new guy, and as such, my opinion doesn't carry the same weight as the older members, but one thing has been troubling me since I first heard of these fire issues. It has been mentioned several times that only one fire has been reported to the NHTSA. Why only one? I would think that at the very least there would have been two or three more, since they have pictures posted on the Internet. So that means that someone has access to these sites, and most likely this very forum. So why only the one report? Since the one report has been made an issue of itself (one that would affect BRP directly), it would seem the owners would want to file these reports.

I would assume that all of the affected parties have contacted their respective insurance agencies. Would it not be reasonable to think the insurance agent might have also mentioned this report?

I wonder if anyone has gotten in touch with these owners, and let them know of the importance of filing such a report. And if the owner doesn't want to do this, or has some reason against it, what is the reason?

It's just my opinion, which I know ain't worth a hill of beans, but I think this matter should be addressed.

Skidz

You are a member of this Forum and as such you should post your views.

don
 
I know I'm the new guy, and as such, my opinion doesn't carry the same weight as the older members, but one thing has been troubling me since I first heard of these fire issues. It has been mentioned several times that only one fire has been reported to the NHTSA. Why only one? I would think that at the very least there would have been two or three more, since they have pictures posted on the Internet. So that means that someone has access to these sites, and most likely this very forum. So why only the one report? Since the one report has been made an issue of itself (one that would affect BRP directly), it would seem the owners would want to file these reports.

I would assume that all of the affected parties have contacted their respective insurance agencies. Would it not be reasonable to think the insurance agent might have also mentioned this report?

I wonder if anyone has gotten in touch with these owners, and let them know of the importance of filing such a report. And if the owner doesn't want to do this, or has some reason against it, what is the reason?

It's just my opinion, which I know ain't worth a hill of beans, but I think this matter should be addressed.

Skidz

I have asked the owners that posted the fire photos to contact the NHTSA - even provided the web links - numerous times - but as of yesterday (last time I checked the NHTSA website) only one took the time to file a report. The owner of the bike has to post the report - your insurance company, dealer, other forum member, etc. won't and/or cannot do it.

Very frustrating to me. It took me maybe 20 minutes to file my report about the steering problems - and about 8 of us did this and finally some action was taken!

BRP won't do anything until the NHTSA makes them.
 
I know I'm the new guy, and as such, my opinion doesn't carry the same weight as the older members,
Skidz

We all started out as "New Members". I think each opinion stands on its own. Any value (or lack thereof) should be based on content of the post, not necessarily on longevity of membership.

I value the input of all members. Some I agree with, some I don't and some I just do not understand where they are coming from.... And I am sure the entire spectrum is in force with my posts as well.

I'm here to be informed, add my 2 cents (which I hope helps someone) and have fun.

So far so good! :ohyea:
 
Nah, it's all good! Nobody's calling you a liar and if anyone did, just ignore them. Who cares! I think when it all boils down, no matter who is getting their panties in a wad over this or that, if someone needs a question answered, help with something for their :spyder2:, we'd all be right there to lend a hand regardless of what is said in here.

:agree: Its not the same as having a face to face with someone.
It can be very easy to misinterpret someones meaning on forums like this.
I think we all need to step back and take another look sometimes before we jump in and make a comment :doorag:
 
I know I'm the new guy, and as such, my opinion doesn't carry the same weight as the older members...

Skidz

We all started out as "New Members". I think each opinion stands on its own. Any value (or lack thereof) should be based on content of the post, not necessarily on longevity of membership.

I value the input of all members. Some I agree with, some I don't and some I just do not understand where they are coming from.... And I am sure the entire spectrum is in force with my posts as well.

I'm here to be informed, add my 2 cents (which I hope helps someone) and have fun.

So far so good! :ohyea:

+1
 
This should be an issue for your insurance company to deal with. Either way - fixed or replaced---- it is why you have insurance.


But why should my insurance go up do to someone elses neglect? I already pay an arm and a leg and I have no accidents.
 
A good lesson I guess. If my Spyder catches fire I'm going to let it burn to the ground.

And if mine catches fire, I'll let myself get a slight burn... maybe then they'll have a response. Just kidding...I'm not that stupid or smart for that matter.


To whom it may concern,

I'm an owner of a 2008 Spyder bought new in crate April of this year. There
have now been several reports of different Spyders catching fire. Some have
been total losses with only one so far that we know of reported to the U.S.
NHTSA. A few have had minor to major damage and luckily no loss of property,
an injury or deaths have been reported.

I now leave my Spyder outside my garage after riding in order to let it cool
down before pushing it inside. My neighbor asked me why I was pushing it and
I had to explain about the fires and how I'm not talking any chances.

I believe the Spyder is a safe vehicle, and I do believe that all the fires
we have heard about and the ones we haven't yet, represent a very small
percentage of Spyders sold. However, you have established a loyal community
of owners that are now asking for answers and are concerned not only for
their investment, but also their safety. I understand that you may be in the
process of investigating this issue, and that you may not want to make any
statements prematurely. That said, the noise about this in the Spyder
communities online is getting louder and tarnishing the reputation of BRP
and the Spyder for those that come online to research buying a Spyder. To
date we have had no confirmation from any of the owners that BRP even cares
about their burned up Spyder and have requested to see these Spyders in
order to diagnose the potential issue.

Please find some way to address this issue at some point in the near future,
as my faith that my money was well spent on your product is fading. I'm sure
you can find a way to address our concerns that would appease your corporate
lawyers and internal marketing department.

Sincerely,

Daniel Paquette
Matthews, NC
2008 Spyder 1300 miles and no fire so far.
 
And if mine catches fire, I'll let myself get a slight burn... maybe then they'll have a response. Just kidding...I'm not that stupid or smart for that matter.


To whom it may concern,

I'm an owner of a 2008 Spyder bought new in crate April of this year. There
have now been several reports of different Spyders catching fire. Some have
been total losses with only one so far that we know of reported to the U.S.
NHTSA. A few have had minor to major damage and luckily no loss of property,
an injury or deaths have been reported.

I now leave my Spyder outside my garage after riding in order to let it cool
down before pushing it inside. My neighbor asked me why I was pushing it and
I had to explain about the fires and how I'm not talking any chances.

I believe the Spyder is a safe vehicle, and I do believe that all the fires
we have heard about and the ones we haven't yet, represent a very small
percentage of Spyders sold. However, you have established a loyal community
of owners that are now asking for answers and are concerned not only for
their investment, but also their safety. I understand that you may be in the
process of investigating this issue, and that you may not want to make any
statements prematurely. That said, the noise about this in the Spyder
communities online is getting louder and tarnishing the reputation of BRP
and the Spyder for those that come online to research buying a Spyder. To
date we have had no confirmation from any of the owners that BRP even cares
about their burned up Spyder and have requested to see these Spyders in
order to diagnose the potential issue.

Please find some way to address this issue at some point in the near future,
as my faith that my money was well spent on your product is fading. I'm sure
you can find a way to address our concerns that would appease your corporate
lawyers and internal marketing department.

Sincerely,

Daniel Paquette
Matthews, NC
2008 Spyder 1300 miles and no fire so far.
Well said...:clap:
 
Nice letter.

Maybe we all should have been more aware before buying--- considering their name----- BOMBardier :roflblack:
 
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