An actual case using amsoil metric.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Here's the bulletin in the other thread I linked to. Why the chatter seems to be worse with Amsoil is a good question, but it does not mean Amsoil is not a good oil. I used it all the time in my 2013 RT. Why the BRP oil works better might be because maybe it has a heavier viscosity than Amsoil when cold.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I just had a guy here in Las Vegas tell me his 2013 SE did not operate well on 10W40 Amsoil Metric. He switched back to the BRP oil and it was fine. Our 2012 RTL was fine on Amsoil.

The difference between the 2012 and 2013 is the clutch material. The newer clutch steel likes to chatter.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

ADDITIVES

Why don't you try some Motorkote


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IMHO ......I'd be very very careful about oil ADDITIVES ........... and the " recommending of them " :gaah: !!!!!! ...... Mike :thumbup:

 

[Firefly]

Here's the bulletin in the other thread I linked to. Why the chatter seems to be worse with Amsoil is a good question, but it does not mean Amsoil is not a good oil. I used it all the time in my 2013 RT. Why the BRP oil works better might be because maybe it has a heavier viscosity than Amsoil when cold.

Thanks for sharing this... good info to have.
The 1330 engines don't have a centrifugal clutch, so I doubt they suffer the same symptoms.
Easy fix.... let it warm up.


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[waynezimm]

Thanks for the many replies

2013 spyder RT se5 limited is the bike with the problem.

Brp summer blend was used for the first 20,000 miles. No problems were noticed except a little shake in the clutch engagement when cold. Just slightly noticeable for a couple of blocks until temp started to rise. Nothing of real concern, but something that sticks in your mind when starting out in the morning.

At 20,000 miles I switched to amsoil metric. At first all was the same but after 1000 mi or so, the morning shakes increased in intensity and in length of time that it shook. Oil was changed at 25,000 and at 30,000. Again using amsoil metric. I now have 35,000 miles and the shaking is bad enough that I'm a bit ashamed to ride with anyone until it gets to full temperature when it quits. All is OK when hot.

I am currently at my winter home, Mesa, and do not have the ability to change oil at this location. So at 35,000 mi. I took it to a spyder dealer for the oil change and they put BRP summer blend in the cycle. I rode it home, and parked it for two days. Did the morning start up and low and behold, the same shaking was there on takeoff as was there BEFORE I switched to amsoil metric. Around the block once and shaking....gone! Now it is just like before amsoil metric.

Any good feedback? I appear to be stuck with a full case of amsoil metric 10-40!

at the 20,000 mile mark I had already known about the 2013 clutch disk glitch. My intent was to eliminate the slight cold shutter on takeoff by trying amsoil. I have nothing against amsoil, I really wanted the oil to stop the shudder, not make it worse. The Brp summer blend oil returned the shutter back to what it was at mile 0. It appears at this point in time that no damage was done to my spyder using amsoil. Thanks to all who replied and the problem is indeed mechanical, 2013 clutch plates, it is just that amsoil metric exacerbates the problem.

I am very interested in other 2013 owners, who have had similar problems who have experimented with other oils with either positive or negative results.

Thanks again to all