Amsoil in the SE5 ?

[darren]

BRP, Rotax, Can-Am, none of them make or produce an engine oil. They purchase generic oil that meets their requirements, put it into a different container and sell it as 'Factory Oil'. It is not a special or specific product developed for the Rotax engine.

I am not saying it's not a good oil. I'm just saying that typically, buying the same, identical product in the generic bottle will cost you less money. Or, you can buy a better product for the same money you're spending on the Castrol in a BRP container.

Blended just means they put some really good oil in with a larger volume of less expensive oil. It is like mixing 30% pristine artesian water with 70% tap water. Is it a better product than straight tap water? Sure, but wouldn't it be better to pay a little more for 100% artesian?

The only thing BRP about BRP oil is the container that you throw away.

By the way, neither Ford or GM make oil either. They simply put a generic oil that meets their specifications into in a Ford or GM bottle and charge more for it than you would pay for the same thing at Wal-Mart. They make money and the customer feels good about paying too much for the product because they think they are getting something extra.

It's called 'Marketing' and it works very well.

Yes I understand that but until I see on the back of the bottle/brp that this oil is made by castrol and packaged with the company logo being brp, then i will go back to castrol 5/40w sync but these toys/spyder are to expensive to have to worry about what oil to use
It's cheap when you are not 110% sure about type,brand, and just stick to what brp said to use, and there is a lot of concern as what to use, you can read on this forum pages after pages on oil which is a good thing but it must be getting close to finding what is best:gaah:

 

[SNSTRO]

Thanks to all for you input on this matter.. I will go with the Amsoil and see how it goes..

 

[SPYD1]

Amsoil

I have been using Amsoil in my SE5 with no issues, in fact I believe it shifts smoother.:clap:

 

[mguin]

AMSOIL in SE5

I just did an oil change last weekend. I went with the AMSOIL 10W40. It has the specs stated by BRP. The mechanic that I use thinks highly of AMSOIL. :2thumbs:

Good Luck.

Bluezr0kr :doorag:

'09 SE5, Yoshi Exhaust, trunk liner, tank bag, fog lights, Evoluzione Sway Bar, Cal Sci Windshield, Extreme Kempy License Plate Light, Can Am Billet Handlebar inserts, Can Am Upgrade Grips, Grip Puppies, Can Am Seat Upgrade, Evoluzione O2 Modifier, K&N Air Filter and Spyderdetailing.com Graphics Kit.

Next considerations - LEDS, RT Shocks up front, Power Outlet for my IPOD. Does it ever stop? Your Spyder becomes an addiction.

 

[Roger]

+Thankfully, in addition to quality, AMSOIL warrants its proper use.

http://www.amsoil.com/warranty.aspx

Ride on.
Roadkill

I buy my amsoil from roadkill he uses what he sells i know alot of people that ride but not as hard as he does and his spyder looks every bit of it.

 

[SpyderRyderTV]

I think that for the few extra dollars spent to remove one more obstacle so BRP does not use that as an excuse to warranty issues is worth it. :dontknow:

 

[willteix]

Amsoil Yay!!

My dealer recommends Amsoil. Told me he does not know a better oil for the RT SE5. He even said it has better specs then the BRP oil. He did say he'd love to sell me the BRP oil, as he makes a few dollars profit. My Spyder dealer sells amsoil and he said that many of his customers use the oil in their ATV, Water craft, and aprilla cycles.

 

[POPS 57]

Another good oil is rotella syn. in the blue jug. You can get it at wallmart. It does not have the new modifers in it that mobile 1 has. That is the problem. Some oils have added a new modifer to there oil that is very slippery. This new additive is what makes the clutch slip.

 

[Neez]

I take issue with BajaRons statement:" The SE5 is different only in that it is electronically shifted instead of manually shifted." Actually, the SE5 is hydraulicaly shifted, using engine oil which is boosted to 147 psi by a special pump. Whether or not this makes a difference in oil requirements, I don't know, so I use the BRP recommended product, just to be on the safe side.

 

[Sarge707]

I was using Mobil 1 4T which was JASO MA- I switched to Castrol RS 4T which exceeds JASO MA2!nojoke

 

[SNSTRO]

Amsoil working great

After the oil change I noticed a major change in how smooth the SE5 Shifts.. It shifts a whole lot smoother now.. and it seems like the engine is even performing better too.. For all the New People to Spyder Ownership.. well the GS/RS's.. The Oil Change is not difficult at all.. A note though.. I would definately buy a set of new oil plugs that fit standard sockets to replace the stock ones that use torx head 40 i think? That was the only really difficult part of the change..and they look like they would strip easy.. This site has a thread or post about where you can order new drain plugs.. I will definately be ordering a set next oil change..
Thanks to all for you info.. and most of all Ken, for putting me on the right path..

 

[Marker]

:2thumbs: Use oil that is formulated for motorcycles and you won't have a problem.

The oil used for the spyder must be motorcycle oil for wet clutch applications and then you will not have any problems

 

[NancysToy]

After the oil change I noticed a major change in how smooth the SE5 Shifts.. It shifts a whole lot smoother now.. and it seems like the engine is even performing better too.. For all the New People to Spyder Ownership.. well the GS/RS's.. The Oil Change is not difficult at all.. A note though.. I would definately buy a set of new oil plugs that fit standard sockets to replace the stock ones that use torx head 40 i think? That was the only really difficult part of the change..and they look like they would strip easy.. This site has a thread or post about where you can order new drain plugs.. I will definately be ordering a set next oil change..
Thanks to all for you info.. and most of all Ken, for putting me on the right path..

The oil drain plugs are hex head, not torx.

 

[Bad Dog6]

AMSOIL IN THE SE5

If the oil you ordered is the 10W 40 AMSOIL Motorcycle Oil (MCF) It will work just fine. Another good choice in the AMSOIL Oil is the Formula 4-Stroke PowerSports 0W-40 (AFF) Both are formulated to run in air or water cooled Power Sports Engines and both are wet clutch compatible. As long as the oil is formulated for Motorcycle/PowerSports use it will state on the bottle that it is Wet Clutch compatible. Oils that are formulated for use in Automobile applications contain Friction Modifiers and that is what will cause clutch plates to glaze and slip.

As for warranty issues, If the dealer states your warranty is based upon the use of a specific oil then they have to provide that oil for free.. That is Federal Law and is covered under the Magnuson Moss Act.

If your dealer states that the oil is the cause of the failure THEY have to prove that the oil is at fault to void your warranty. As long as the oil you use meets the API (American Petroleum Institute) spec that is stated in your Owners Manuel they can not void the warranty regardless of what brand of oil it is without proof. Failures are cause and effect.

If AMSOIL is at fault, they will replace the engine or clutch or what ever.

I have dealt with AMSOIL for many years and find that their products are, by far, the best on the market according to ASTM Test Standards and many years of use in my own equipment.

Hope this sets your mind at ease.

 

[NancysToy]

If the oil you ordered is the 10W 40 AMSOIL Motorcycle Oil (MCF) It will work just fine. Another good choice in the AMSOIL Oil is the Formula 4-Stroke PowerSports 0W-40 (AFF) Both are formulated to run in air or water cooled Power Sports Engines and both are wet clutch compatible. As long as the oil is formulated for Motorcycle/PowerSports use it will state on the bottle that it is Wet Clutch compatible. Oils that are formulated for use in Automobile applications contain Friction Modifiers and that is what will cause clutch plates to glaze and slip.

As for warranty issues, If the dealer states your warranty is based upon the use of a specific oil then they have to provide that oil for free.. That is Federal Law and is covered under the Magnuson Moss Act.

If your dealer states that the oil is the cause of the failure THEY have to prove that the oil is at fault to void your warranty. As long as the oil you use meets the API (American Petroleum Institute) spec that is stated in your Owners Manuel they can not void the warranty regardless of what brand of oil it is without proof. Failures are cause and effect.

If AMSOIL is at fault, they will replace the engine or clutch or what ever.

I have dealt with AMSOIL for many years and find that their products are, by far, the best on the market according to ASTM Test Standards and many years of use in my own equipment.

Hope this sets your mind at ease.

What you say is generally true. Please be aware that 10W-40 oil does not meet the spec of 5W-40 oil as stated by BRP (neither does their oil!). There is still room here for warranty difficulties, I'm afraid.

 

[dave01]

Just my opinion, but with all of the oils on the market and ANY chance of BRP not covering warranty work, why use anything other than BRP oil? Cost, maybe but its not that much when you consider what we paid for the toys in the first place. Like I said, just my opinion.

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