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Ambient Temperature

garyraphael

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After riding my bike for about 45 min...going to coffee shop. When I come back about one hour later and start the engine the ambient temp gauge shows 128 and the orange engine light will come on.

Outside temp is 97 but the asphalt is much higher I would assume. No error codes and no effect on operation.

2012 RT...can anyone shed light on this? I do not have this issue with cooler temperatures.


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Yup:yikes: It was the asphalt :roflblack: Park in the shade or grass next time:2thumbs: Some times it can take a while to clear , you cot some air moving in right spots quickly,:thumbup: Too many bugs can make that a problem. & once it tripped it is sensitive to that again even more so it seems. Any thing over 107*F & my local temps may only be in low 90's F:chill:
 
Par for the course if you have parked in the sun. Have had 100 degrees showing when it was really high 70's. Five minutes down the road and it goes back to normal. No orange screen because I have not reached your temperatures.
 
Ours reached 127 degrees three weeks ago and threw a code and check engine light but no limp mode. Cleared up when the bike was parked overnight.
 
I had 128 once. No codes, no orange screen, no limp mode. Temp only dropped to 98 during the ride home.
 
The basic problem here is in thinking that temp display is showing you 'Ambient Temperature' - it's NOT!! It's showing you the intake temperature for the air intake underneath the tupperware & pretty much right on top of the engine, so of course it's going to be high if the engine is warm (hot?!) & the Spyder is parked on a hot & reflective surface in the sun! :shocked:

Simple fix really, never think of that temperature display as showing you Ambient Temperature, always think of it as being the engine air intake temperature, & if it that's getting high while you are riding along (like it does on a hot day) then don't park anywhere that you would expect that temp on top of the engine & under the tupperware to increase once you shut the engine down & walk away!!

A small 'travel cover' or 'seat shade' can help things cool off a little if you hafta park in the direct sun on a hot day, & shading the top of the tupperware, the seat, & the dash will also help minimise sun damage & fading on any/all of those over time, as well as making it far less likely that you'll suffer from any of the dreaded 'parked in hot direct sunlight' issues when you get back. You've already discovered the 'ECM overheat' problem, but there are others; including the 'no dash display' issue when your digital dash is too hot to show you anything (sometimes the bike still works with that one, but often not!) & don't forget the 'seat too hot to sit on' issue either, it can be a real pain in the bum!! :yikes:

So just to wrap it all up neatly, that temperature display IS NOT an Ambient Temperature display, no matter what you might believe or may have been told; it shows you the temperature under the tupperware & on top of the engine, so if the engine's already been warmed up, the outside air is hot to start with, & the sun has been beating down on the tupperware while you've been parked, of course it's gonna be as hot as it gets under there & that high temp can mean the ECM gets upset & won't play!! Think of it as Ambient Temperature to your peril! ;)
 
Oh yeah....

Asphalt temp goes well over 170° on those hot summer days. Finding the right parking spot helps as does a cover or some wind. exhaust fan would be nice add on....:thumbup:
 
After riding my bike for about 45 min...going to coffee shop. When I come back about one hour later and start the engine the ambient temp gauge shows 128 and the orange engine light will come on.

Outside temp is 97 but the asphalt is much higher I would assume. No error codes and no effect on operation.

2012 RT...can anyone shed light on this? I do not have this issue with cooler temperatures.


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The sensor is just under the tupperware on the upper right of the frunk. On a hot day with bright sun it gets hot. Anything over 120F will trigger a check engine. Get moving and get air flowing through the duct and you'll be OK in a short time.
 
Thanks to all who replied...I only have this issue during the high temps here in Arizona. I just want to make sure that it is not an issue.


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Trying to find sensor...have no idea what it looks like and location. Anyone have a pic?


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Have you taken the tupperware off of the front of the bike yet?

It's located next to the frunk on the right side. The only way to get at it is to remove some of the tupperware.
 
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