Aerocharger taking pre-orders for Spyder Turbo kit NOW!

[Lamonster]

I really thought that sounded low-----

So how about Aerocharger release some real data about this--- firsthand.

While it's great that you come out here and post what you know -- there's nothing better than hearing right from the horses mouth.

If Aerocharger really wants to sell these and dispel rumors---- THEY should create an account out here and post what is really going on-- or better yet they should become a site sponsor and advertise their product - which they are the only ones doing such a thing.

They should be able to post complete Dyno results if they really want to be taken seriously.

:lecturef_smilie:They would have to follow the same rules as the other vendors and dealers.

If they became a site sponsor they could post what's really going on. :thumbup:

 

[TexasTripod]

Turbo-Kit

I've always been a speed freak and thought that too much horsepower is never enough BUT-- Putting a turbo on a vehicle that wont turn is pointless. Even on the Drag Strip you have to turn at the end of the 1/4 mile!!

 

[docdoru]

Where did you hear that? I can tell you right now thats INACCURATE information. All of you reading and commenting on this forum/thread - dismiss this comment.

1. Call them at 913-541-0200 and place the order for the kit (like I did 2.3.10, Visa ending in 7763)
2. Ask for total HP engine performance: 130. Happy?!?
3. Ask for Dyno results: pending.
4. Now is your turn: what is your "accurate" information?
:chat:

 

[Lamonster]

1. Call them at 913-541-0200 and place the order for the kit (like I did 2.3.10, Visa ending in 7763)
2. Ask for total HP engine performance: 130. Happy?!?
3. Ask for Dyno results: pending.
4. Now is your turn: what is your "accurate" information?
:chat:

:2thumbs::clap::yes:

 

[burg650]

I still think a nitrous set up would be awesome, much less $$$ and it's there when you want it and depending on the size shot might be even more power.

 

[asmdjackal]

1. Call them at 913-541-0200 and place the order for the kit (like I did 2.3.10, Visa ending in 7763)
2. Ask for total HP engine performance: 130. Happy?!?
3. Ask for Dyno results: pending.
4. Now is your turn: what is your "accurate" information?
:chat:

I spoke to Brad @ Aerocharger, they are not divulging HP numbers until they get final Dyno testing done on the production parts (not the prototype parts). Brad is the owner of the company, anyone else that may have stated that number is mistaken. I suggest giving Brad a call back.

 

[Way2Fast]

IMO, putting a turbo on an engine with as high a compression ratio as the Spyder without doing internal engine work to lower the compression will result in a short lived engine destined for the junk yard.

 

[Lamonster]

I spoke to Brad @ Aerocharger, they are not divulging HP numbers until they get final Dyno testing done on the production parts (not the prototype parts). Brad is the owner of the company, anyone else that may have stated that number is mistaken. I suggest giving Brad a call back.

I don't see what the big deal is. There's nothing wrong with 130hp and depending on how much boost you run that is a number that could be achieved. You could make a lot more or a lot less depending on how safe you want it to be. If you get 130 with 8 lbs of boost +or- that's great if you can do it without detonation and without smoking the clutch. I still say your clutch is the weak link just like it was when I was building the blower kits for the Valkyrie.

So how much boost are you running? You don't need a dyno for that.

 

[jeuchler]

OK, off topic here, but the lovely bride saw your cartoon and laughed saying "That is YOU!" :roflblack:

 

[asmdjackal]

IMO, putting a turbo on an engine with as high a compression ratio as the Spyder without doing internal engine work to lower the compression will result in a short lived engine destined for the junk yard.

The Spyder actually has a 9:1 compression ratio if you CC'd the head/piston. I am not sure why BRP states it as higher... its not.

Thats why it runs on 87 octane and why Evoluzione offers a piston kit to make it high compression on premium fuel. Thats also why the Spyder motor loves and responds so well to the Aerocharger turbo.

 

[asmdjackal]

I really thought that sounded low-----

So how about Aerocharger release some real data about this--- firsthand.

While it's great that you come out here and post what you know -- there's nothing better than hearing right from the horses mouth.

If Aerocharger really wants to sell these and dispel rumors---- THEY should create an account out here and post what is really going on-- or better yet they should become a site sponsor and advertise their product - which they are the only ones doing such a thing.

They should be able to post complete Dyno results if they really want to be taken seriously.

Ok, this positive release has kinda turned into some pi$$ing match. Attempting to turn it around and change the climate here.

Fact - they don't need to become a site sponsor anywhere to dispel rumors... Just keep an eye on their site, they are updating their FAQ all of the time. http://www.aerocharger.com/kits_canam_spyder.php

I've also said that the dyno results are coming, they were waiting to get PRODUCTION parts to post results on. No one would believe in the results if they posted on prototype parts that you would not get if you ordered their kit. So there is method to the current no dyno madness. And also, I ask you to keep in mind that they are taking PRE-orders for their first run of kits... Its not like they are selling them to everyone and trying to drive business through the roof and also not giving you dyno results. Nothing is being hidden, there is no conspiracy about lack of dyno numbers...

This pre-order is supposed to be for the people that want in first and understand that they dyno results arent quite here before they put up $50 bucks to reserve one of the first turbo kits. In a few weeks, the final parts will be here, dyno will commence and then when everyone is blown away by the numbers... you can start complaining that you tried to order a kit and they are backordered... then you'll wish that you got that pre-order in. LOL :2thumbs:

They also have a blog that is linked right off that page, we can start all kinds of rumors on the horses pasture and maybe they will officially respond there! hyea:

I stopped by their shop yesterday, they are just about out of pre-orders by the way...:yikes:

PS - Still looking for someone in the KC Metro area to test drive a Aerocharged Spyder for a review outside of my own experience... You must be a current Spyder owner. If you are that person and you've got time when the weather warms up a bit around here... drop me a PM and lets arrange a time/place!

 

[SethO]

130 isn't bad at all...from 110 (with hindle or other 'open' pipe). However, for $5000, that's $250 per single HP...I'd rather put that money into my retirement...

For those who want the fastest Spyder though (SethO out there??), this sounds like the way to go...very nice!

I'm more than happy with the performance of my Spyder as it is...it's always fun to ride and it's faster than most vehicles on the road anyway.

If they want people on here to have some direct feedback I got a guy that does turbo in my garage SO if they send me what they sell I put and use, give everyone feedback on how great it is and safe.

And everything knows I test things to their limits.

 

[Firefly]

Ok, this positive release has kinda turned into some pi$$ing match. Attempting to turn it around and change the climate here.

Fact - they don't need to become a site sponsor anywhere to dispel rumors... Just keep an eye on their site, they are updating their FAQ all of the time. http://www.aerocharger.com/kits_canam_spyder.php

I've also said that the dyno results are coming, they were waiting to get PRODUCTION parts to post results on. No one would believe in the results if they posted on prototype parts that you would not get if you ordered their kit. So there is method to the current no dyno madness. And also, I ask you to keep in mind that they are taking PRE-orders for their first run of kits... Its not like they are selling them to everyone and trying to drive business through the roof and also not giving you dyno results. Nothing is being hidden, there is no conspiracy about lack of dyno numbers...

This pre-order is supposed to be for the people that want in first and understand that they dyno results arent quite here before they put up $50 bucks to reserve one of the first turbo kits. In a few weeks, the final parts will be here, dyno will commence and then when everyone is blown away by the numbers... you can start complaining that you tried to order a kit and they are backordered... then you'll wish that you got that pre-order in. LOL :2thumbs:

They also have a blog that is linked right off that page, we can start all kinds of rumors on the horses pasture and maybe they will officially respond there! hyea:

I stopped by their shop yesterday, they are just about out of pre-orders by the way...:yikes:

PS - Still looking for someone in the KC Metro area to test drive a Aerocharged Spyder for a review outside of my own experience... You must be a current Spyder owner. If you are that person and you've got time when the weather warms up a bit around here... drop me a PM and lets arrange a time/place!

Okay--- just understand that everything on these here internets is up to question. How many times have we seen incorrect information posted about products from end-users-- tons of times. Prime example is this unit. You claim 'much' higher numbers than what doc was told by the owner.

Considering this site is the best portal to selling anything Spyder related - they should just buck up and become a site sponsor when they are ready to sell these - that would take care of any misinformation.

I won't be complaining about not getting in on the backorder--- I want more real-world testing done on this before strapping one on my Spyder, not to mention full technical specs and photos of the install. $5,000 is a lot of money where I come from - thus why I require more details.

Good luck with everything - I really hope the numbers are as high as you believe they will be!

 

[docdoru]

Prime example is this unit. You claim 'much' higher numbers than what doc was told by the owner.

:agree: It was a 3 way call when I placed the order; the Fl mechanic was asking specific questions: total HP and if I need to eliminate the right Corbin saddlebag.
I understand that we need to wait for the DYNO results for the production unit.opcorn:

 

[Firefly]

:agree: It was a 3 way call when I placed the order; the Fl mechanic was asking specific questions: total HP and if I need to eliminate the right Corbin saddlebag.
I understand that we need to wait for the DYNO results for the production unit.opcorn:

Oh--- didn't think about you having the Corbin bags!

So it will work with your bags I assume? Any concerns about extra heat?

 

[bcspyder]

As owners of a "new" type of vehicle should we not be supporting anyone that is attempting to produce aftermarket parts ?? I think asmdjackal has been great about keeping us updated on a quality company, spending some serious coin to develop new product. Do real horsepower figures mean that much to you??? HD has never printed HP figures and nobody seems too concerned. Drive-ability, serviceability, and safety are WAY more important than if it makes 130 or 140 HP. Most here have customized to some extent and if speed is your deal then a turbo is of interest. Some have no issue spending thousands on Corbin stuff or custom paint. Given all the components involved I also thought the price was reasonable. Personally, I will spend my cash on suspension as I feel the bike is fast enough but lacks good dampeners. If you have talked to Ken at Evoluzione, who builds all kinds of fast and cool stuff, the first thing that came off his machine was the suspension. Yeah, Penske's are expensive but that is what my piggy bank is going towards. To each his own.

 

[Firefly]

As owners of a "new" type of vehicle should we not be supporting anyone that is attempting to produce aftermarket parts ?? I think asmdjackal has been great about keeping us updated on a quality company, spending some serious coin to develop new product. Do real horsepower figures mean that much to you??? HD has never printed HP figures and nobody seems too concerned. Drive-ability, serviceability, and safety are WAY more important than if it makes 130 or 140 HP. Most here have customized to some extent and if speed is your deal then a turbo is of interest. Some have no issue spending thousands on Corbin stuff or custom paint. Given all the components involved I also thought the price was reasonable. Personally, I will spend my cash on suspension as I feel the bike is fast enough but lacks good dampeners. If you have talked to Ken at Evoluzione, who builds all kinds of fast and cool stuff, the first thing that came off his machine was the suspension. Yeah, Penske's are expensive but that is what my piggy bank is going towards. To each his own.

I'm all for them coming out with this - but for $5K they better have all the dyno info. Considering this unit is made specifically to add more HP - yes- the amount of additional HP does matter.

This would be like Corbin selling bags without listing the internal dimensions.

I'm sure they'll get the numbers out soon-- and then we can all take a deep breath---

I agree with you about the shocks--- which are next on my list. Adding the extra HP without doing something to enhance the suspension is a bit of a waste. I'll be looking into the Elka ones.

Ken's cam and piston kit added around 40hp --- but he no longer has the kits. They did indeed increase the compression from in the 9's up to around 11 --- which then required higher octane.

Not sure why BRP is stating the compression at 10.7:1 when it's really in the low 9's, but this might answer the questions about running 87 octane. This might mean the Spyder engine is not being retarded as previously thought.:dontknow:

We'll all love to read Doc's review after he gets his installed !:thumbup:

 

[asmdjackal]

Oh--- didn't think about you having the Corbin bags!

So it will work with your bags I assume? Any concerns about extra heat?

Thats funny you said that, the muffler/exhaust is much cooler than the stock muffler. The stock muffler has a cat in it and is pretty restrictive, that holds in the heat. Since we're actually adding fuel to the motor now and not running it so lean, the exhaust isn'st anywhere near as hot as it used to be.

It was a hidden benefit...

 

[Lamonster]

Somehow this must have been overlooked when you were answering questions.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=178806&postcount=29 :dontknow:

 

[Firefly]

Thats funny you said that, the muffler/exhaust is much cooler than the stock muffler. The stock muffler has a cat in it and is pretty restrictive, that holds in the heat. Since we're actually adding fuel to the motor now and not running it so lean, the exhaust isn'st anywhere near as hot as it used to be.

It was a hidden benefit...

Cool ! :thumbup: