Added risers, now bike will not start

[RollonAA]

hey aa. So, when you turn on the key, you get the lights that come on directly from the key as usual - tail, running, plate, etc - but nothing else, correct? Yes, that's exactly what happens.

If you've double checked all of your workmanship on the riser, and determine that it wasn't due to that, then that sounds reasonable. If all of the components that don't work share a common ground, then they probably share a common power supply, such as the main relay or load shedding relay. Those relays have been known to fail and also have been known to come loose in the box, and simply need re-seated. Don't forget to check battery connections for tightness. Excellent process you have listed, that's what i did after double checking the riser for any ground wires and watching the lamonster installation video..

And as we've learned over the years, you can't judge a fuse just by looking at at. You need to remove it and test it or just replace it with a known good one. The fuse box arrangement of fuses and relays is all there at the bottom of the wiring diagram. Don't forget to check the bigger, square fuses, also. That's for sure, i pulled all the fuses and checked them, then reinstalled. The square units 1, 2 and 3 in the left fuse box are relays i believe after looking at the service manual. I need to review the procedure for checking those since you have to apply power to them in order to have them change state.

You have the service manual. There are diagrams for wiring harness connections and grounds in there. But i think you'll find the problem on the power supply end - fuses, relays or battery terminals. That's just more common. Good luck.

thanks much for your input, it is very well done!

 

[UtahPete]

I just got a PM from RollonAA. He said he's discovered wiring harness damage, probably from a rodent. So, that's the cause of the electrical issues, apparently.

 

[RollonAA]

2 of the wires in the harness have been chewed apart by a rat, a big FAT RAT! 2 big rat traps baited and ready for the sucker tonight!!!! Fortunately, there's about 3 inches of wire left on the bottom of the ignition switch. The ground and hot line for the starter have about 3-4 inches removed. By removing the console (heater switches in the plastic cover) you can access the wiring harness. Lucky for me, my brother ( an electronic tech) is in town and he can make the repair!!! Yahoo! PTL

 

[RollonAA]

JOb complete! Took me almost as long to put the tupperware back on as it took to repair the wiring!! I took the 1st piece, the long one from the front to under the tank, off many times trying to properly align it for the 2nd piece to fit correctly! Anyone know of a good video for putting the tupperware back on and lining everything up? I found a great on for removing everything.

Thanks for your help guys!

 

[Peteoz]

Thanks for the update, Rollon. It’s amazing how often something like this catches us out. Mind you, it’s possible that the wires were just hanging on by a thread (see what I did there:roflblack, and the installation of the risers unknowingly caused a separation.
Good to hear you found the issue and can fix it :thumbup:

Pete

 

[RollonAA]

Hey Mate!

Hey Pete! noticed your location, I worked with Aussies years ago (40 yrs ago). They were here working weapons separation from aircraft; great guys! Best to ya!

 

[ron1026]

Glad you were able to find the problem and fix it and hopefully" fix " the pest that caused it. Was wondering where I can purchase the shop manual for my 2022 rt, have always purchased the shop manuals for all the bikes I have had but haven't seen place to get the one for the Spyder.

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Glad you were able to find the problem and fix it and hopefully" fix " the pest that caused it. Was wondering where I can purchase the shop manual for my 2022 rt, have always purchased the shop manuals for all the bikes I have had but haven't seen place to get the one for the Spyder.

Last one at the bottom of the page.

https://canammanuals.com/can-am-spyder-manual.htm

 

[ron1026]

Last one at the bottom of the page.

https://canammanuals.com/can-am-spyder-manual.htm

Thanks for the link, is there a print version available anywhere ?

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Thanks for the link, is there a print version available anywhere ?

Not that I have off the top of my head. Maybe you can Google around. Kinda pricey, probably. Maybe someone else has a line on a source. Most just use our own printer and run off the pages that we need when we need them.

Or...

Put the electronic file on a USB stick, take it to your local office supply store and see what they want to print it all off for you if you prefer paper. Remember that the wiring diagram will need to be a multipage foldout.

 

[RollonAA]

Try emailing this guy: [email protected] Very helpful and you can print if you use the adobe software.