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About to pull the trigger on a 2023 or 2025 Spyder RT Dark - what am I really paying for? Any other major considerations on differences?

jgortner

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Hi all.

I’m about to pull the trigger on either the 2023 or 2025 Spyder RT dark.

I found some leftover models for 2023 that are ~20k and of course 2025 is ~31k. I don’t really care about the price per se, but I hear so much negativity about Apple Car play (even with the new full integration in 2025). So, what am I really paying for: 2 extra speakers and slightly better tires (which I can just replace later)?

Any other major considerations on differences I should be aware of?

Really appreciate your thoughts and insights!
 
I'm with the 2023. As mentioned above, same everything except the screen. The 2025 has the newer screen with Apple CarPlay. I too, would get a Garmin XT from the money saved. You can also get the BEST warranty to give you longer peace of mind.
 
I have owned two Spyders, a 2020 F3L, and currently a 2023 RTL. You will be plenty pleased with the 2023 RT and probably with zero regrets. For me, I am not a fan of extra electronics, so any added on my vehicles is of no value, but that's me. The Engine is the same and suspension should be similar, but you will have too much fun driving the first several years to probably notice a difference. Save the money and just have fun. Strong suggestion, read the ENTIRE manual before riding and a must is this: LEARN HOW TO CHECK OIL LEVEL PROPERLY. It is not like any other vehicle I have ever owned; not hard, but totally different.

Just my 2¢ - now just purchase one or the other and have some fun! Give yourself some time to get acquainted with driving a Spyder.
 
* If you like a Digital Touch Screen dash, you'll like the 2025.
* If not, the "simpler" dash on the 2023 is your other, more "rational" choice in my view.
* Let us know what decision you make.
 
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