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ABANDONED BY BRP !!!

CapNCrunch said:
Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:
BRP/CANAM has picked up all Spyders (demos, used and new) from those two dealers. However, one of them at least, has an agreement to continue Spyder service for two years.
Having been a Spyder owner for six years, I feel betrayed!
Our closest dealer is in Spokane, Washington, now.
I've got to wonder if this is going to be a trend!
CapNCrunch in Stevensville, MT
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Would it make you feel any better to know my situation?

I have the only F3 in the state of Hawaii, that I know of, on the island of Kauai to be specific. I would have to spend over $2k in order for me to get it to a dealer and then back home. I don't see there being a BRP dealer in the state in the near or distant future. My one and only advantage is that I was an automotive tech in a previous life, so I took on the challenge. So far, so good.

It's true, I knew this going in and your situation is quite different but just know that it could be worse. I do feel for you but dealers come and go for all kinds of reasons. Unfortunate as it is, it's just life.
 
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Cruzr Joe said:
Do you know any secrets that you would care to share???? (inside Joke)

Cruzr Joe
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Hagar the Horrible: What are you so happy about?

Lucky Eddie: I just learned the secret of life!

HtH: Well, aren't you going to tell me the secret?

LE: No, I can't.

HtH: Why not?

LE: Because it's a secret!
 
It may be that Montana's climate isn't very conducive to Spyders, since they don't handle well in snow and ice (i.e., not at all), and Montana has only three seasons: fall, winter, and the Fourth of July.

When I was pulling ICBM crew duty in Montana, when we went to the alert facilities, we had to take our winter parkas and other thermal gear with us from mid-September to the end of May, because the weather was so variable and unpredictable.

I'm guessing the sales just aren't there to warrant a dealership for such a specialized contraption. Off-road four-wheelers, yes, but maybe not Spyders.
 
CapNCrunch said:
Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:
BRP/CANAM has picked up all Spyders (demos, used and new) from those two dealers. However, one of them at least, has an agreement to continue Spyder service for two years.
Having been a Spyder owner for six years, I feel betrayed!
Our closest dealer is in Spokane, Washington, now.
I've got to wonder if this is going to be a trend!
CapNCrunch in Stevensville, MT
: =( : =(
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Just wondering if the dealer is still in Billings, that is where I bought mine and he was just starting to build a new building in May..
 
BRP to research two wheel market

I was reading RidinOn magazine, October issue and it quoted BRP officials as working on research to introduce a two wheel product line in order to increase market share.

Joe
 
youngers said:
thanks for setting me straight ! though the lear jet division , was in the article ... did not know they had a train division
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We had a train division here in Vermont.


The train division moved to Plattsburgh, New York in 1995, the main plant. Deanna
 
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tending

Well here in North jersey we had one dealer stop selling Spyders . They sold 6 units this year .all 15s and still had over 10 units in crates. they also still had some 14s in crates. BRP told them they had to pre order 30 units. The dealer was in a new win situation, having all of this inventory and limited space and now BRP telling them that they must buy 30 units or else. else meaning we will pull out. The dealer had no option but to tell BRP come get it. BRP is at fault here. I to now have to travel to a dealer I don't like.
 
Why is it BRP's fault that your dealer didn't take their Spyder line-up seriously? :dontknow:
It costs BRP money, to keep a non-productive dealer on the books...
 
Bob Denman said:
Why is it BRP's fault that your dealer didn't take their Spyder line-up seriously? :dontknow:
It costs BRP money, to keep a non-productive dealer on the books...
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Not quite sure what you're driving at. What the Can Am rep told me last year is that BRP marketing has expectations for sales that often are unrealistic for a particular market area. IIRC, the allotment that BRP is requiring dealers to buy has been increased, hence some dealers who in the past were able to satisfy the marketing folks requirements are not able to do so when the requirements have been increased. In a sense this is BRP's fault for placing unachievable requirements on dealers. On the other hand, it's not their fault if the cost of keeping a dealer online exceeds the return they get from the dealer.

I would not discount the possibility that a non-productive dealer was taken in by a glowing sales pitch from the BRP marketing folks and that's why they signed up in the first place. Subsequently, the dealer learned by experience that the market he was led to believe was out there, really wasn't. You're in sales. You know how that works!
 
Dealer closing in Montana

I bought my Spyder from the Kalispell dealer - Jessco. They told me this summer that they where discontinuing selling the Spyders because they weren't selling enough of them to keep the franchise going with BRP. I didn't know about them closing the one in Great Falls too. Jessco will continue to do maintenance on the Spyder for 2 years. By then I'll be out of warranty and will have the local guy do my maintenance. I live 75 miles north of Kalispell. Realize that will have to travel to Spokane to get any thing major done. Bummer, was hoping to have a choice between Great Falls and Spokane. The main point was that Jessco made the decision to stop carrying the Spyder line, they do carry other BRP products tho.
 
There are just too many factors that could go into this. My wife was the one who fell in love with the idea of riding. I told her that every two-wheeler I had ever been on I had ended up me down and wheels up lol She decided that the Spyder would work and test drove one. Still thinking she wasn't serious I told her we should each have our own...


...she said that's a great idea! :shocked:


She goes back to the dealer we took our test ride at and they have ONE guy who handles Spyders. He acted insulted that she would ask him about buying two units. Needless to say this didn't sit and after a few words he changed his tune and shot her some pricing. We got the financing. We were ready. A few weeks later we were on vacation in another part of the state and happened to ride by a dealership. We went in and it was 100% different. They were engaging. Everyone there knew about Spyders. The sales manager talked to us. It was a completely different scene. Not only that but he SMOKED the other dealer (and by smoked I mean five figures on two machines.) All this to say that sometimes these guys just aren't pushing the line enough. A Spyder almost has to be something someone WANTS before the guys will even talk to you about it. I've hung around and listened to the sales people while getting my Spyder serviced. They never ask anyone "have you thought about a Spyder" although I realize this is a very short period of time I'm standing there eavesdropping. To me I'd think they would be easier to sell to a new rider as long as they were able to get financing.

Just my two Cs
 
Many, if not most dealers have added the Spyder line to their existing line-up of bikes. I think the attitude many 2-wheel riders have against Spyders lives in those showrooms. If a product isn't appealing to the sales staff, how can they enthusiastically sell it? My local HD dealership occasionally takes a Spyder in trade and I've let the know I'm available to address questions from a rider's view. They've never called and I think they just wholesale the units out to get rid of them.
 
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DEALERS AND SERVICING ETC

The Bee!! said:
I bought my Spyder from the Kalispell dealer - Jessco. They told me this summer that they where discontinuing selling the Spyders because they weren't selling enough of them to keep the franchise going with BRP. I didn't know about them closing the one in Great Falls too. Jessco will continue to do maintenance on the Spyder for 2 years. By then I'll be out of warranty and will have the local guy do my maintenance. I live 75 miles north of Kalispell. Realize that will have to travel to Spokane to get any thing major done. Bummer, was hoping to have a choice between Great Falls and Spokane. The main point was that Jessco made the decision to stop carrying the Spyder line, they do carry other BRP products tho.
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Dealers will ALWAYS tell you that you NEED them ....... well in my experience that's pure BS .... they need you ...... I've had 3 Spyders and the amount of time spent at Dealers is hours using one hand to count on .... I'm not a mechanic but am handi with tools and you can be also ...... There are people here on Spyderlovers that know far more than most Dealer Tech's and are a lot friendlier ........ just some thoughts ..... Mike :thumbup:
 
Part of the problem, I think, is that the normal 2 wheeled 'Flim-Flam' from the sales person just doesn't get it with the Spyder. Sales persons who don't know the machine (and may be a great deal of them) probably do not feel comfortable answering questions. They just can't make up stories quick enough to cover themselves. They end up looking like they don't know what they are talking about (which they don't). So they try to avoid the conversation altogether. Which means not selling any Spyders.

It's hard to like something that you don't know anything about. And it's hard to sell something you don't like. I wonder if many Spyders are sold IN SPITE of the sales person, not because of them.
 
Ron,
Have you ever thought that Spyders get sold, because of what WE say about them? :D
I've sold three for my dealer, and one each; for two other dealers! :D
 
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