ABANDONED BY BRP !!!

[youngers]

o.kay found the story , it is the lear jet side of bombardier , quite a few in Wichita and world wide . machinist , .... but still this pulling spyders , out of the 2 dealers , are these 2 dealers owned buy same owner ? { it is hard too believe can-am would fold up like that , the spyder bike itself is too cool just in its self ! } shoot folks do we need too pull our money together and start a dealer ship ? :yikes:

 

[billybovine]

o.kay found the story , it is the lear jet side of bombardier , quite a few in Wichita and world wide . machinist , .... but still this pulling spyders , out of the 2 dealers , are these 2 dealers owned buy same owner ? { it is hard too believe can-am would fold up like that , the spyder bike itself is too cool just in its self ! } shoot folks do we need too pull our money together and start a dealer ship ? :yikes:

The learjet story. Well that's old news. What was the date on the article you read.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:

Here are a couple of comments I shared last year in this post: www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?86361-Spyder-changes-coming! This might be related to what you are seeing now in Montana.

I had a couple of interesting conversations this past week, one with a Can Am rep and the other with a Boise dealer sales mgr. I ran into the East Idaho, Wyoming, Montana parts and accessories factory rep in Idaho Falls last Tuesday at breakfast at the hotel I was staying at. We talked about several things including Can Am marketing department. He said they sometimes don't have a clue about market realities. The flop of an unveiling at Sturgis showed that.

...................

He said BRP is actively working to bring more dealers on board. A challenge is to keep the marketing folks from forcing dealers to buy and stock more machines than they can reasonably sell. BRP is well aware of customer service issues, but since most dealers are multi-line, multi-brand, sellers Spyder sales and service on its own often doesn't have the clout to force improvements. To us Spyders are all important. To some dealers, like in East Idaho, Spyders are secondary to snowmobiles and/or water craft.

...............

Sales are on the upswing as evidenced by the shrinking inventory of 2015s around the country. The local sales mgr said they sold more Spyders this year than ever and their inventory is pretty much dried up. He also commented the RSS is a 'has been' as far as sales go. They have one orange one that well may end up going to auction. No one seems to want it, even at $14,399. The 2015 RTS Special Edition at the other local dealer I was hoping to make a deal on was sold this past week!

 

[Fat Baxter]

One of the reasons I moved to a Spyder in 2014 was the shutdown of the only BMW bike dealer in Alabama. I initially wasn't *too* concerned about service for my then-15 year old RT, as I was using an independent BMW-trained mechanic, but that year he too went under. Ooops.

Oddly enough, I was very seriously looking at Urals rigs, as they are throwbacks to a simpler era when the owner could do a good deal of wrenching themselves -- Urals are stupid-simple, like BMWs use to be in the '70s and '80s. BMW forgot all that.

Instead I got a high-tech toy that requires PhD-level of mechanic skills....... :dontknow:

As for Montana, I spent 6 1/2 glorious years there courtesy of Uncle Sam. It's a very thinly populated state. Maybe not enough folks up there to justify a Spyder dealership. After you sell few dozen or so, the market may be saturated.

 

[oldgoat]

a big MMMMMMMM , heard on the radio , bombardiea , has or is , about too lay off 20,ooo I will look into this article again !

You do that. Maybe then you will get your numbers correct.

It is mainly in the train division that the layoffs will happen.

They are planning to hire over 3000 in the aeronautic division

BRP is a separate company to Bombardier.

 

[cuznjohn]

same thing happened to two dealers that i know of. one honda motorcycle dealer, and the other a chevy dealer. both were screwing with the books to get iron on their lots, and the company pulled their dealerships

 

[youngers]

Bombardier is going to layoff 7,500 folks worldwide. So what does that have to do with BRP? Not the same company. Bombardier sold off BRP in 2003.

thanks yeah saw that one , did not know of the sale off , which is good for spyder cycles !

 

[youngers]

You do that. Maybe then you will get your numbers correct.

It is mainly in the train division that the layoffs will happen.

They are planning to hire over 3000 in the aeronautic division

BRP is a separate company to Bombardier.

thanks for setting me straight ! though the lear jet division , was in the article ... did not know they had a train division

 

[scott16119]

A local BRP dealer near here apparently lost their BRP and Honda motorcycle franchises too last spring. Within a few months some one else just down the road started selling BRP products and Honda motorcycles. When I got my Spyder in 2012 there was one dealer within 20 miles, 2 within 70 miles and maybe 2 or 3 more dealers about 100 miles away. As of the last year or so I have 3 Spyder dealers within 50 miles from my home now.

 

[PistonBlown]

For a couple of years my nearest dealer was seven and a half hour ride away, so 15 hour round trip not including the time actually there. Fortunately a good one has now opened only three hours away.

 

[Deer Slayer]

snow

Did BRP pull Ski Doo too?

 

[stovebolt_six]

Abandoned by BRP

The same thing happened to our local dealership two weeks after we purchased our F3 last year. We had stopped in to the dealership because we were going to purchase some accessories, we were told, by the dealership, that BRP pulled their Spyder dealership, because too many Spyders were being sold to customers in neighboring counties. The dealership is still a CanAm dealership, but no longer a Spyder dealership, they told us that the Spyder dealership is a separate dealership. This is what we were told by the dealership. Now we have to ride a longer distance to have our Spyder serviced. Now our closest dealership is in Durango Colorado. Makes for a nice ride though, but not very convenient.:banghead:

 

[deer30084]

Businesses close when they don't make money. But, when I was shopping for a Spyder, $25,000, $27,000, and $31,000 was too much for me. When I told the dealer those prices were out of the question, he told me about the 2015 leftovers that were under $20,000 and I agreed to buy. Maybe I didn't help the company too much with my purchase, but I have a Spyder and I hope my dealer stays open. I wish I saw more Spyders on the road, but I believe price has a lot to do with it.

 

[youngers]

I wonder what the mark - up is on the spyders ? 25 ooo too 30,ooo a year, or two , later , down too under 20,ooo ? { and I wonder how many get turned off by the 1st and 2nd gear clunk noise ? }

 

[PrairieSpyder]

. . . we were told, by the dealership, that BRP pulled their Spyder dealership, because too many Spyders were being sold to customers in neighboring counties. . . .:banghead:

:hun: I'm calling BS on that.

I have heard BRP has some quite restrictive conditions for dealers but not that.

 

[40Xshooter]

I am in Illinois and there are only two dealerships within a reasonable range.:banghead:

You must travel out to the suburbs for service. I don't think there's a dealer in the city, is there?

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

... we were told, by the dealership, that BRP pulled their Spyder dealership, because too many Spyders were being sold to customers in neighboring counties.

:hun: I'm calling BS on that.

I have heard BRP has some quite restrictive conditions for dealers but not that.

:agree: with PS about the BS!! There are two Spyder dealers here in SW Idaho about 30 miles apart. They both sell in each others backyard.

The Spyder dealership is, as has been said, separate from the other powersports lines. However, if a dealer provides either outstanding service or bad service in the Ski Doo, Sea Doo, and UTV areas, I believe that can be a factor in whether they can or cannot keep the Spyder dealership. But based on discussions with the Can Am rep last fall, and a Can Am, but not Spyder, dealer in my home town area, sales volume is a major factor in whether a Spyder dealer gets and then keeps or loses the Spyder line.

 

[BajaRon]

Only 3 Possibilities...

There are really only 3 reasonable possibilities here.

1- Very poor customer service. From SL users feedback this seems unlikely. In any case. There would be a number of warnings, discussions, notifications, etc., over a lengthy period of time. Having their ticket punched and inventory removed would not be 'Without Warning'.

2- Financial issues so bad that BRP had to pull their ticket. But again, there would be a lengthy process involved. If nothing else I am sure the process and results are clearly spelled out in the contractual agreement.

3- Sales so poor that the dealership decided to drop out of the Spyder line. Dealerships can keep the other BRP product lines. Dropping the Spyder makes sense if it is creating a hole in your profit margin. Again, no 'Without Warning' possibility here.

Though there are other UNREASONABLE scenarios possible. I think them very unlikely. BRP has an obligation to the customer and to the product line to remove bad apples. They can't afford to float financially delinquent dealers. And they can't, and should not, block dealerships from dropping a product that isn't bringing a profit.

My guess is that these 2 dealerships do very well in snowmobiles and off road vehicles. The Spyder may not have been a profitable product for them and scenario 3 is the most probable answer.

You may feel abandoned, understandable. But it is probably just a business decision made by the dealerships.

I do not have any inside information. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Cruzr Joe]

There are really only 3 reasonable possibilities here.

1- Very poor customer service. From SL users feedback this seems unlikely. In any case. There would be a number of warnings, discussions, notifications, etc., over a lengthy period of time. Having their ticket punched and inventory removed would not be 'Without Warning'.

2- Financial issues so bad that BRP had to pull their ticket. But again, there would be a lengthy process involved. If nothing else I am sure the process and results are clearly spelled out in the contractual agreement.

3- Sales so poor that the dealership decided to drop out of the Spyder line. Dealerships can keep the other BRP product lines. Dropping the Spyder makes sense if it is creating a hole in your profit margin. Again, no 'Without Warning' possibility here.

Though there are other UNREASONABLE scenarios possible. I think them very unlikely. But BRP has an obligation to the customer and to the product line to remove bad apples. They can't afford to float financially delinquent dealers. And they can't, and should not, block dealerships from dropping a product that isn't bringing a profit.

My guess is that these 2 dealerships do very well in snowmobiles and off road vehicles. The Spyder may not have been a profitable product for them and scenario 3 is the most probable answer.

I do not have any inside information. Just my 2 cents.

Do you know any secrets that you would care to share???? (inside Joke)

Cruzr Joe

 

[BajaRon]

Do you know any secrets that you would care to share???? (inside Joke)

Cruzr Joe

You are going to get me into trouble! Please refer to the last line in my post. I put it there just for you Cruzr Joe! :joke: