'23 S2S Limp Mode and More after 2 months storage - any ideas?

[Pantera]

I am hoping they get it figured out for you soon

 

[LongIsland]

I would check with BEST about the warranty. Call them at 866-477-1415 with your VIN on hand.

 

[AndysF3S]

Update: PM didn't get to it today, but did say BRP stated that there is no warranty because the S2S was purchased in Canada. I purchased in 5/23/23 from Westside Motorsports, Spokane, Washington and have the records to prove it. This is getting curiouser and curiouser.

If your dealer is no help on the warranty call BRP Care and see if they will straighten things out for you:
1 (888) 272-9222

 

[zich6]

I just got the S2S back. They said my Pedal Box throttle controller failed. Even though they said the battery was good, I bought a Yuasa and will install it when it arrives. BRP said they fixed the warranty issue 2 days ago, but today the dealer still showed no warranty. I'll call the dealer again next week as it may take a while.

 

[Pantera]

Not really surprised that it was the pedal box.Many times when chasing problems it is good to remove any after market crap and see if the problem goes away.

 

[DickB]

A problem with the pedal boxes is that they can be a single point of failure. The Spyder has two hall sensors in the twist grip, each with its own independent power and ground supply. An open or short in any one wire will still allow the other sensor to be functional. You get a fault and limp mode, but you can still drive. These pedal boxes should have two completely independent circuits in them, but they don't.

 

[zich6]

A 'hall" sensor?

 

[DickB]

A 'hall" sensor?

Named for Edwin Hall, the person who discovered the Hall effect. Simply put, a magnetic field has an effect on current and voltage in a conductor. In the twist grip, when you twist it moves a magnet and the Hall sensor detects the position of the magnet. The Hall sensor produces a voltage proportional to the amount of twist. Hall sensors are more reliable than resistive sensors, such as the potentiometer typically found in a fuel sender. Spyders also use Hall sensors for the Gearbox Position Sensor, Wheel Speed sensors, and Steering Angle Sensor.

 

[zich6]

Named for Edwin Hall, the person who discovered the Hall effect. Simply put, a magnetic field has an effect on current and voltage in a conductor. In the twist grip, when you twist it moves a magnet and the Hall sensor detects the position of the magnet. The Hall sensor produces a voltage proportional to the amount of twist. Hall sensors are more reliable than resistive sensors, such as the potentiometer typically found in a fuel sender. Spyders also use Hall sensors for the Gearbox Position Sensor, Wheel Speed sensors, and Steering Angle Sensor.

Thanks so much. I really don't like the Spyder throttle control. It's too sluggish to me and the Pedal Box made it much better. Is the Pedal Commander different from the Pedal Box regarding this issue? Is there another way to improve the throttle response other than those two?

 

[zich6]

Anyone?

 

[CopperSpyder]

Thanks so much. I really don't like the Spyder throttle control. It's too sluggish to me and the Pedal Box made it much better. Is the Pedal Commander different from the Pedal Box regarding this issue? Is there another way to improve the throttle response other than those two?

That is a different subject, you might want to start a new thread with that question adding a better title than the one here..

 

[DickB]

Thanks so much. I really don't like the Spyder throttle control. It's too sluggish to me and the Pedal Box made it much better. Is the Pedal Commander different from the Pedal Box regarding this issue? Is there another way to improve the throttle response other than those two?

Both devices, and other similar ones, plug in between the twist grip and the ECM to make the twist grip more (or less) sensitive. Differences in the boxes have to do with features, such as Bluetooth connectivity and the amount and type of adjustability. I doubt that you would find any functional difference, as they all work the same way and do basically the same thing.

This was a Facebook post by Pedal Commander. A potential customer asked a question, and I answered. Pedal Commander liked my response.

I would contact Pedal Box regarding the failure, under warranty or not, and ask for a replacement. Good companies stand by their products. I had a failed weatherproof plug on my Garmin Zumo, and when I enquired about a replacement part Garmin sent me a refurbished unit no charge even though mine was long out of warranty. They even paid for shipping.

 

[zich6]

Both devices, and other similar ones, plug in between the twist grip and the ECM to make the twist grip more (or less) sensitive. Differences in the boxes have to do with features, such as Bluetooth connectivity and the amount and type of adjustability. I doubt that you would find any functional difference, as they all work the same way and do basically the same thing.

This was a Facebook post by Pedal Commander. A potential customer asked a question, and I answered. Pedal Commander liked my response.

I would contact Pedal Box regarding the failure, under warranty or not, and ask for a replacement. Good companies stand by their products. I had a failed weatherproof plug on my Garmin Zumo, and when I enquired about a replacement part Garmin sent me a refurbished unit no charge even though mine was long out of warranty. They even paid for shipping.

Good advice. Thanks.