215/60R15 Michelin Hydroedge wear report

[sddinnh]

Good Info like formula 1 harder compound will last longer but is not good in the rain asked another SL he said his michelin hydroplanes he is using the same tire , lower treadwearwear tire will be softer better for rain

All I can tell you is I've had no problems with this tire in either the wet or dry. I would like to know what kind of Spyder did have a hydroplaning problem. I'm running this on a 1000# plus RT-L and if you put the same tire on a lighter RS or ST then I have no idea how it will re-act, but that may account for the difference.:dontknow:

 

[bluestratos]

I have never heard that softer rubber is better for wet roads, only for traction. Is this fact?

 

[Highwayman2013]

Hydroplaning has little to do with compound, it has more to do with tread pattern and how the tread sheds water. If that were true soft slicks would be great in the rain. If you want to run a soft tire go ahead but some of us don't want to change tires twice a season.

 

[tigerdr]

The Michelin HydroEdge was designs to be the best tire on wet road. This tire was severly tested on different wet condition and hydroplanning.

I drive today under heavy rain and on rough pavement. No hydroplanning with this Michelin HydroEdge. 24000 kilometer (14000 miles) on this tire.

 

[Bob Denman]

And how is it holding up to the extended use? How much tread depth do you still have? :dontknow:

 

[sddinnh]

And how is it holding up to the extended use? How much tread depth do you still have? :dontknow:

Jeez Bob, I can only drive so much :yikes::joke:

Start out new = .360
Current after 3700 miles = .320

Used = .040

New estimated milage = .360 / .040 * 3700 = 33,300

So, it looks like the wear is slowing down slightly, but it's still on target to be a 30,000 mile tire (although that is obviously subject to change). So I'm going try to keep this up every 5,000 miles or so just to track the wear on this one.

 

[PattyandJoe]

what other tires...

Jeez Bob, I can only drive so much :yikes::joke:

Start out new = .360
Current after 3700 miles = .320

Used = .040

New estimated milage = .360 / .040 * 3700 = 33,300

So, it looks like the wear is slowing down slightly, but it's still on target to be a 30,000 mile tire (although that is obviously subject to change). So I'm going try to keep this up every 5,000 miles or so just to track the wear on this one.

Since they are about impossible to find. What other tires are good replacements???Thanks

 

[sddinnh]

As I understand it, the Michelin Defender is the replacement tire for the Hydroedge. There is also a Perreli P4 available in that size that looks pretty good. Several guys have also had good luck with Khumos. I buy my tires in 2's, so I still have a spare Hydroedge sitting in the barn for the next time around so I haven't been looking for what's available now. I would think that any QUALITY car tire in that size would work fine. I only choose the Hydroedge because I liked the tread pattern and it seemed wide opened enough not to cause hydroplaning.

 

[PW2013STL]

As I understand it, the Michelin Defender is the replacement tire for the Hydroedge. There is also a Perreli P4 available in that size that looks pretty good. Several guys have also had good luck with Khumos. I buy my tires in 2's, so I still have a spare Hydroedge sitting in the barn for the next time around so I haven't been looking for what's available now. I would think that any QUALITY car tire in that size would work fine. I only choose the Hydroedge because I liked the tread pattern and it seemed wide opened enough not to cause hydroplaning.

I hope you are keeping that spare cool and dark as I was told by a tire manufacture that heat and sun will shorten the life of a stored tire rather quickly.

 

[bluestratos]

I like the Hydro Edge but the Primacy and Defender look like they not a symmetrical tread design.

 

[BikerDoc]

New tread depth .360
Tread depth after 2500 miles .330
difference .030

Estimated life .360 / .030 * 2500 = 30,800

So far tire handles nicely and good in rain

good info, with enough options BRP can't block them all

 

[GrumpySteelMan]

Good Info like formula 1 harder compound will last longer but is not good in the rain asked another SL he said his michelin hydroplanes he is using the same tire , lower treadwearwear tire will be softer better for rain

I have never heard that softer rubber is better for wet roads, only for traction. Is this fact?

There may be a slight difference in compound, but I imagine whoever came up with this idea was comparing tires with radically different tread patterns/contact patch.

Very soft sports tires on RWD sports cars don't make them spin out or hydroplane any less, this is due to the larger cross section of rubber meeting the road with some influence being the weight applied for a given area.

A 255mm wide tire with a very open tread pattern and/or deep channels gives the water someplace to be displaced. You don't always see this because WET traction must be traded for DRY traction in some ways. For example a very soft "slick" will be way more dangerous than a very hard economy tire in any application, in the wet.

Softer compounds allow for better wet performance without sacrificing too much dry performance by using a sticky compound. The choice of compound is largely incidental for a higher performance tire in the wet.

 

[ulflyer]

I hope you are keeping that spare cool and dark as I was told by a tire manufacture that heat and sun will shorten the life of a stored tire rather quickly.

I believe a tire stored in a garage, shed, or basement will last for several years without deterioration despite what the tire manufacture says. After all, they are there to sell tires. Sorta like the Jiffy lubes places tell you to change that expensive synthetic oil every 3000 miles while the MM (motor minder) on you car tells you its good for 10,000 miles.

I like the looks of the tread on the hydroedge and might see if I can find one to use after my current Pirelli P4 wears out.
Its got 5000+ on it now and 7mm of tread left all across. I didn't measure it when new so no idea how well its wearing. I'm using 22lbs pressure and checking it, and tread depth, regularly to maintain even wear across the tread.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

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I believe a tire stored in a garage, shed, or basement will last for several years without deterioration despite what the tire manufacture says. After all, they are there to sell tires. Sorta like the Jiffy lubes places tell you to change that expensive synthetic oil every 3000 miles while the MM (motor minder) on you car tells you its good for 10,000 miles.

I like the looks of the tread on the hydroedge and might see if I can find one to use after my current Pirelli P4 wears out.
Its got 5000+ on it now and 7mm of tread left all across. I didn't measure it when new so no idea how well its wearing. I'm using 22lbs pressure and checking it, and tread depth, regularly to maintain even wear across the tread.

..................Ron look on the TIRE RACK web site sight for Pirelli P -4 tires ......it will give the specs for that tire when it was new .....................and any other tire they sell ..................Mike :thumbup:

 

[ulflyer]

..................Ron look on the TIRE RACK web site sight for Pirelli P -4 tires ......it will give the specs for that tire when it was new .....................and any other tire they sell ..................Mike :thumbup:

Checked TR and it was 8.7mm when new. If its 7mm now with 5000 miles it should last another.................miles? I have no idea how to figure this! pps:

 

[sddinnh]

divide 8.7 by 1.7 and multiply by 5000 = 25,500 to zero tread

so....... another 15,000 to the wear bars ?????????

 

[joshuaberryhill]

Found a site recommended by a friend veerubber.com they have a trike specific rear tire VT350R ARACHNID solely for trikes, this is rear and 2 options for front one is the ARACHNID VT350F for fronts and a ZILENT VT350R option also for front. I am tired of can am and there poor customer service. My 2012 RT LIMITED original tire lasted 2.5 years 12,000 miles. My new tire 2.5 moths 3900 miles and needs to be replaced because it's worn already. My dealer called them and their response wad OH....Sorry that tire number was updated to a new tire and number. They said Tell your customer we will credit 50.00 towards the purchase of the updated tire. Wait I just spent 375.00 for tire and labor 2.5 months ago, now BRP is telling me to pay another 325.00 and they will pay other 50.00.

I am shocked, I said you sent a tire to my dealer that was not updated tire and number and put.me and my passengers life at risk knowing the tires were bad???? Response: We're standing by that decision , take it to the dealer and decide what you want to do. WELL BRP MY DECISION IS TO FINA A NEW COMPANY THAT STAND BEHIND THERE PRODUCT AND DOES NOT PUT THERE CUSTOMERS LIVES AT RISK WITH FAULTY TIRES.....AND I WILL TELL EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.....

Please check your tires folks, Your safety depends on it.

 

[joshuaberryhill]

Veerubber.com has trike specific tire for rear it's an ARACHNID. They also have fronts trike specific for can am. Also on there site is ZILENT who makes front trike specific tires for can am. They guarntee product and mileage unlike BRP.
GOOD LUCK

 

[joshuaberryhill]

I believe a tire stored in a garage, shed, or basement will last for several years without deterioration despite what the tire manufacture says. After all, they are there to sell tires. Sorta like the Jiffy lubes places tell you to change that expensive synthetic oil every 3000 miles while the MM (motor minder) on you car tells you its good for 10,000 miles.

I like the looks of the tread on the hydroedge and might see if I can find one to use after my current Pirelli P4 wears out.
Its got 5000+ on it now and 7mm of tread left all across. I didn't measure it when new so no idea how well its wearing. I'm using 22lbs pressure and checking it, and tread depth, regularly to maintain even wear across the tread.

look @ veerubber.com Arachnids for rear and front also they carry ZILENT for fronts too. They make trike specific tires with guarntee.
Hope this helps....

That looks awesome! Can't wait to get mine installed!

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WELCOME ABOARD

look @ veerubber.com Arachnids for rear and front also they carry ZILENT for fronts too. They make trike specific tires with guarntee.
Hope this helps....

.................You have been here all of one month :clap::clap::clap:........I've been here a few years and have purchased quite a few tires for hree different Spyders , and they have all been CAR TIRES.....The new Arachnids were COPIED from the KENDA'S which IMHO ( and that of many others here ) a garbage tire ..........if you copy a garbage tire what do you think you will get.??????????......................There are many excellent , long wearing car tires that will fit the Spyder ................and there have about 100 posts about them .............Good luck................Mike :thumbup: