2025 Pulse and Origin Reveal - did they fail mileage hopes?

[JohnRuckus]

Back to the original topic, BRP's new electric bikes.

Yes, I agree. Lots of hype from BRP and a lack luster product that is only useful for in-city commuting. Nearly useless as a recreational motorcycle. Like most manufacturers, it looks like BRP will spend a bunch of money on initial development and product, only to see sales far short of projections. Then they'll scale back the EV product and go back to developing what they know best and can actually sell for a profit.

The F3 series is LONG overdue for a refresh. No other Spyder model has ever run this long without an update.

I went to a local shop at the beginning of February. They had the Origin on display, but the Pulse wasn't in yet. I was speaking to the sales person and told them it looked nice, a lot bigger than I expected even with the adventure element. Then, I said this isn't for folks in the city who want to take it on the trails. You're only getting 100 miles. So, you have to tow it out of the city just to ride it for any fun on the trails. Otherwise, you have very short trail time and you've still gotta be able to find a charging station.
We both laughed and I started looking at the new Spyders. Some of those colors really pop under the right lighting of a showroom floor.

 

[Cobranut]

EVs are a good thought. Something better would be to install wires in the interstate hiways that would be able to charge an EV.
Not sure what this would cost.

I really wonder if anyone has thought about doing something like this.
Have a great Day.

Full-size slot cars, yay!

 

[racoon]

California has been working on autonomous cars for some time.

Autonomous Vehicles - California DMV

DMV administers the Autonomous Vehicles Program and issues permits to manufacturers that test and deploy autonomous vehicles on California public roads. Learn more about the program, regulations, and applying for a permit.

www.dmv.ca.gov

 

[BajaRon]

I really like my 2015 as well.
I do wish the tuners would figure out a way to disable, or at least turn down, the stability and traction control.
With my FuelMoto tune I can very easily break the rear loose, but it's really unsettling when the nanny steps in mid-turn, and jerks the bike back straight.

Improve handling with suspension upgrades and it will tone down the Nanny quite a bit. Though granted, she will never go away. Which, in the long run, is a good thing.

 

[BajaRon]

I too ride a 2015 F3 and its right at 100,000 miles. As we have several long distance rides still planned including a trip to Alaska in 26, I will be in the market for a replacement this fall. I hate spending 20k to get another copy of the exact same bike I already own. I will, but hoping beyond reason that there is something new and updated announced for 2026 model year. If not, I will be looking for a new in box leftover 23 or 24.

I can see your point there. But I'm seeing older model F3's with low mileage for very good prices. It's always an option if you don't want to spring for new and not improved.

 

[Cobranut]

Improve handling with suspension upgrades and it will tone down the Nanny quite a bit. Though granted, she will never go away. Which, in the long run, is a good thing.

I have your ultra sway bar, and yes, it did improve handling and stability quite a bit.
Having ridden sportbikes for years, I like to get pretty aggressive sometimes.
My ultimate goal would be enough power and grip to lift both front tires, but I know the weight distribution on a reverse trike is necessarily biased way too far forward for that.
Being able to hang the tail out under power would be fun, and would also help smooth out aggressive cornering.
As it is, the tail steps out a few degrees, and it cuts power and violently straightens out the trike.
It's dangerous in my opinion, it affects my ability to hold my line in a corner, and almost feels like it's trying to toss me off the seat.

 

[BajaRon]

I have your ultra sway bar, and yes, it did improve handling and stability quite a bit.
Having ridden sportbikes for years, I like to get pretty aggressive sometimes.
My ultimate goal would be enough power and grip to lift both front tires, but I know the weight distribution on a reverse trike is necessarily biased way too far forward for that.
Being able to hang the tail out under power would be fun, and would also help smooth out aggressive cornering.
As it is, the tail steps out a few degrees, and it cuts power and violently straightens out the trike.
It's dangerous in my opinion, it affects my ability to hold my line in a corner, and almost feels like it's trying to toss me off the seat.

Well, yes. If you're losing rear tire traction at over 35 mph (I believe) there isn't really any way to keep the Nanny from slapping you down. The Spyder is not designed to drift. Drifting is fine until you get that sudden stop. Then it's 'See Ya!'.

The best way to be fast on the Spyder is improve your smooth. Otherwise, it will be you and the Nanny fighting all the time. And she always wins. It's not fair.

But hey! Like I tell people all the time. If you want fair, you're living on the wrong planet!