2016 Spyder Line up announcement at sturgis?

[Lamonster]

I'm heading out in the morning for Sturgis and Joan and I will be there with BRP for the unveiling. Time is 1:00 pm at 4th and Main downtown Sturgis on Friday the 31st. We're right across the street from the Police Station and the One Eye Jack. Hope to see you there but either way we will post pics here and on Facebook as soon as we can. :doorag:

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Not even a teeny-tiny little hint for us? :shocked:

 

[Darren111]

I'm heading out in the morning for Sturgis and Joan and I will be there with BRP for the unveiling. Time is 1:00 pm at 4th and Main downtown Sturgis on Friday the 31st. We're right across the street from the Police Station and the One Eye Jack. Hope to see you there but either way we will post pics here and on Facebook as soon as we can. :doorag:

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.:yes:

 

[sledmaster]

I keep wondering if they'll drop it right down to the ACE 600? :dontknow:
If they re-task the RS as an entry-level bike; I would think that 60 horsepower would get the job done nicely... :thumbup:

Power to weight ratio would be the issue. If it was a 600 ACE (60 HP) then it would be a smaller, lighter platform altogether. If the RS was to stay full-sized, then the 900 ACE (90 HP) would be more logical. I just don't know about the whole less expensive angle here. I don't see that as the primary objection from potential buyers. Look at what is sold now and what the owners are doing to them, what kind of rig are they creating? Look at what people are doing to their F3s right now - that should be our best indicator. This is what steered the RT from what people were doing to their GS/RS models right from the start.

I keep coming back to the question of who they are trying to sell units to - the current group of us Spyder owners, or that great big aging demographic that is on two wheels right now. That is the nut they so desperately want to crack open. We have already bought into the 3-wheel thing, so we are not the main target. How do they make a Spyder "cool" and "desirable" to the masses? How do you make it horny and lusty, something that people want worse than anything else? That is the multi-million dollar question here.......thus, with an intro at Sturgis it has to be something that will appeal to THAT demographic.

 

[Bob Denman]

You're right... (Again! )
"Parts Bin" engineering would suggest that they'd use the existing chassis, and they'd need more strength in the engine bay for that... :thumbup:


...just thinkin' out loud...

 

[ARtraveler]

This does keep getting more interesting as Friday approaches. I guess I am lucky. By the time I come online at about 9:00 AM--the announcement will be waiting for me to read.

Does the person who guessed the scenario correctly get a new one?? :roflblack::roflblack: That would sure be a nice gesture. :roflblack::roflblack:

 

[wyliec]

I keep coming back to the question of who they are trying to sell units to - the current group of us Spyder owners, or that great big aging demographic that is on two wheels right now.

The original inception of the spyder was (I thought) for that great big aging demographic that was on or used to be on 2 wheels. Yes, I know that not everyone that purchased fit into that one category. How is the current aging demographic any different than what it was in 2007/2008 when the spyder debut?

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

Power to weight ratio would be the issue. If it was a 600 ACE (60 HP) then it would be a smaller, lighter platform altogether. If the RS was to stay full-sized, then the 900 ACE (90 HP) would be more logical. I just don't know about the whole less expensive angle here. I don't see that as the primary objection from potential buyers. Look at what is sold now and what the owners are doing to them, what kind of rig are they creating? Look at what people are doing to their F3s right now - that should be our best indicator. This is what steered the RT from what people were doing to their GS/RS models right from the start.

I keep coming back to the question of who they are trying to sell units to - the current group of us Spyder owners, or that great big aging demographic that is on two wheels right now. That is the nut they so desperately want to crack open. We have already bought into the 3-wheel thing, so we are not the main target. How do they make a Spyder "cool" and "desirable" to the masses? How do you make it horny and lusty, something that people want worse than anything else? That is the multi-million dollar question here.......thus, with an intro at Sturgis it has to be something that will appeal to THAT demographic.

You are always spot on Sledmaster.

I do have a question for everyone though. Some of you talk of a lower priced "stripped down" Spyder as an entry level bike. I get that but everyone always says put a smaller motor in it. That's the part I don't get for two reasons.

Reason one being, would anyone really be happy (even the first time, low buck rider) with a smaller motor in the Spyder. The 990 is not blazing fast now and I'm not sure how much smaller you could go and still offer acceptable performance. Having used/ridden the 900 ACE in the BRP snowmobiles I for one would not even attempt putting it in a Spyder. It's only about 90hp (maybe) and in a 500 lb sled its does not offer decent performance at all. I hate to even image what the performance would be like in a heavier Spyder.

Second reason, is it really any cheaper to produce and install a 900 ACE than the current 990? The 990 has been around since day one and I have to believe its paid for itself many times over so continuing to produce and use them should be money in the bank.

I just don't see how using a smaller engine in a stripped down Spyder really saves BRP and therefore the buyer and $.

 

[Lamonster]

Looks like the package has been delivered :doorag:

 

[Bob Denman]

:banghead:
I left my X-Ray glasses at home today... :gaah:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WELL

You are always spot on Sledmaster.

I do have a question for everyone though. Some of you talk of a lower priced "stripped down" Spyder as an entry level bike. I get that but everyone always says put a smaller motor in it. That's the part I don't get for two reasons.

Reason one being, would anyone really be happy (even the first time, low buck rider) with a smaller motor in the Spyder. The 990 is not blazing fast now and I'm not sure how much smaller you could go and still offer acceptable performance. Having used/ridden the 900 ACE in the BRP snowmobiles I for one would not even attempt putting it in a Spyder. It's only about 90hp (maybe) and in a 500 lb sled its does not offer decent performance at all. I hate to even image what the performance would be like in a heavier Spyder.

Second reason, is it really any cheaper to produce and install a 900 ACE than the current 990? The 990 has been around since day one and I have to believe its paid for itself many times over so continuing to produce and use them should be money in the bank.

I just don't see how using a smaller engine in a stripped down Spyder really saves BRP and therefore the buyer and $.

Hi Rob....I agree with Sledmaster ( as usual ).......On the sno-mobile comparison thing tho.....The amount of friction and power loss needed to over-come it on a snowmobile is HUGH compared to what it takes to move a Spyder ....any Spyder.......and I think the engine from their basic Sea-Doo may be a better candidate for an entry Spyder.........I may be wrong but doesn't it have the Turbo ( or super-charger ) up-grade available For it ???????...........Mike :thumbup:

 

[ARtraveler]

Looks like the package has been delivered :doorag:

Looks like my key fob guess was wrong--unless you have a whole bunch to give out. :roflblack::roflblack:

The expression on your signature picture says it all. Perfect for the situation. :bowdown::bowdown::yes::yes:

 

[Darren111]

Looks like the package has been delivered :doorag:

OMGray:

 

[Madrebel]

Looks like the package has been delivered :doorag:

Bolt cutters, I need bolt cutters...!

 

[eddieshep999]

Whatever it is, it will be crate

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[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Looks like the package has been delivered :doorag:

Lamont, do YOU even know what's inside? I know you won't tell us even if you know, but will this be a big surprise for you as well? I hope you don't know. That will make the unveiling much more dramatic! :yes:

 

[Madrebel]

Whatever it is, it will be crate

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there b a chain in left corner, I want the whole thing!

 

[loisk]

600 ace

I keep wondering if they'll drop it right down to the ACE 600? :dontknow:
If they re-task the RS as an entry-level bike; I would think that 60 horsepower would get the job done nicely... :thumbup:

Great Idea Bob. As long as power-to-weight ratio is OK, that is. IF they go this way, I predict heaps of sales in Australia where there are strict p-t-w and cc 'LAMS' rules for learner motorcycle riders - and in my state you have to be a 'learner' for 3 years! It would mean all those people (lots are women but not all) who ask me how to get one could actually go out and get one and learn on it, officially. Additionally, I would predict heaps of sales in the Asian markets, where low cc is a 'plus'. Australia's small numbers could piggy-back on asian sales, she said hopefully... BRP have been trying to get a trike-only-endorsement system for car drivers here in Oz but have so far had success in only one state. 600cc triple would be very attractive.

 

[0992]

I have a good guess

Could this be the F3 Lamont won earlier in Daytona and was going to re-do to sell at auction at Sturgis?
That would make a lot of sense since I haven't heard much about that bike lately but it's expected to show up there.
Lamont's there but no mention of the auction bike. BRP probably made a duplicate to sell 1 also to not be outdone.
The opening is at the beginning of Sturgis to get a lot of bidders lined up early.
They may want to make a big splash with Vets as there will be a lot there and they are all getting older and who BRP
would probably want an edge to have them switch
to Can-Am instead of going to some other name brand trike.

Think about it...think about it....think about it....think about it !!
0992

 

[Deanna777]

How about a true Orange/White combo OR a Turquoise/White combo?

I like the turquoise/white combo, with a turquoise dash board. ( like my painted dashboard) I think that would be really sharp looking/ and eye catching. Deanna