2014 versus 2013 RT-S

[jaherbst]

When do we start the bickering between the 2014 vs the 2015???? I might just have a horse in that race. 2015 of course and the beat goes on the next year between the 2015 vs the 2016. And so it goes. I guess that's human nature to brag on what you've got.:chat:

Jack

 

[Bob Denman]

Actually; we're gonna have to sharpen up our eyeballs, and keep an eye out for unauthorized pics of the 2015s...
The 2014 sneak shots appeared at the beginning of last July...


So start getting ready!!

 

[MikeP]

Actually; we're gonna have to sharpen up our eyeballs, and keep an eye out for unauthorized pics of the 2015s...
The 2014 sneak shots appeared at the beginning of last July...
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So start getting ready!!

Doubt the big news will have anything to do with the RT this year / My guess is the sport models are getting the big motor n 6 sp trans

 

[Magdave]

No draw Bob :lecturef_smilie: The 2013 is a better deal than the 2014. I was a little surprised with one of the above comments about the brakes. They are the same on both years Brembo's all around so how could the stopping power be different, especially with the heavier 2014, cooler MC ?:dontknow: It has been fun but obviously this has run it's course. The 2014 MAY be a better mouse trap (time will tell) but the tried and true 998 engine is pretty bulletproof. With a little tinkering and the stomach for a little fuel smell from time to time the cost per mile is much less on a 2013. Of course I am only saying all this to keep my resale up

 

[robmorg]

No draw Bob :lecturef_smilie: The 2013 is a better deal than the 2014. I was a little surprised with one of the above comments about the brakes. They are the same on both years Brembo's all around so how could the stopping power be different, especially with the heavier 2014,

Yep, at the prices the 2013's are going for today, there's a substantial price difference - at least $9000 (which is the figure that started this thread). Dealer I visited said he would discount the 2014 by only $500 or so. That's how much in demand they are. He said he can still get 2013's to sell (not sure whether he meant from BRP or from other dealers). That is why he said he could only give me about $15 - $16,000 on my bike on a trade. It's not so much the KBB value that's the problem as much as the $4000 factory rebate. Maybe when the new 2013's are fully depleted, the resale value will level out.

As for the brakes, I have no idea why, but they are indeed MUCH more responsive on the 2014. I am old enough to remember driving cars without power brakes. And the difference I experienced today reminded me of when the first power brakes hit the market.

Rob
2013 RT Ltd.

 

[dslim]

We just got back from a week long trip to Colorado from Minnesota last week. We have a 2013 RTS that we really like. The bike worked great 2 up pulling a fully loaded RT622 trailer 155-170 miles per tank, never put in over 4.8 gallons at a fill up. With the BajaRons swaybar and the Fox Shox up front, the handling was awesome, it was just a great ride. We rode in upper 80 to low 90's temps with no heat issues. I have the lower right block off plate installed and both the bottom panels off. This bike is no hotter to ride than our 2010 was, it's just the floorboards put your foot in the heat compared to the pegs on our 2010. I've never had anything melt, boiled gas or any funny smells. I haul my sunglasses and Iphone in the glovebox, so I must have a good one. It is kind of disturbing how so many people think the 13's are just junk, they're not. This bike is so much better than my 2010, I can't believe the same company built them. The 14's may have some improvements, I've ridden one, but at what cost? Should a person buy a new bike every year? I know I can't afford that. I'm pretty sure the 15's will improve on the 14's and so on. I think the way our current bike works, we will be keeping it until Can Am comes out with something as smooth and reliable as a wing, but being 57 already, I doubt I'll live long enough.

 

[robmorg]

Doubt the big news will have anything to do with the RT this year / My guess is the sport models are getting the big motor n 6 sp trans

As for a the sport models, there is a very affordable "beginner model" that is supposed to be hitting the line in 2015, according to advance information my dealer has.

The "revolutionary" announcement may or may not be coming in the touring line. The guy I talked to said that at a recent training meeting he attended, Can Am would not say exactly what it was. But what they DID say was that "what is coming will be almost as revolutionary as the Spyder itself was when it was released in 2007". Hype? Who knows?

The video below hints at what my dealer thinks the 2015 announcement might be. Remember that this video was made at the 2011 Toronto motorcycle show, and BRP has had almost four more years of R&D on it since then. It's anyone's guess what the end result will look like if and when it comes to market. Here is another story that hit the news 3 1/2 years ago. There has been virtually nothing in the news about this project since then. Although it WAS the butt of an April Fools Joke on this forum on April 1, 2013. (The picture in that thread is of the prototype that Can Am had in 2011.)

Fact or fiction for 2015? You decide. Can Am ain't sayin' yet.

 

[robmorg]

I think the way our current bike works, we will be keeping it until Can Am comes out with something as smooth and reliable as a wing, but being 57 already, I doubt I'll live long enough.

I've got to disagree with you on that. I do think you'll live long enough. I never rode a Wing, but if memory serves, the 1330 triple I rode today was about as smooth as the Honda Valkyrie I spent a day with a few years back. (The Valkyrie is the "cruiser" version of the Wing - without all the cowlings.)

That said, NOBODY is calling the 2013 RT junk. It's a GREAT ride. It's just that, like you said, they do seem to get better every year.

Rob
2013 RT Ltd.

 

[Bob Denman]

That said, NOBODY is calling the 2013 RT junk. It's a GREAT ride. It's just that, like you said, they do seem to get better every year.

:agree:

 

[ARtraveler]

When do we start the bickering between the 2014 vs the 2015???? I might just have a horse in that race. 2015 of course and the beat goes on the next year between the 2015 vs the 2016. And so it goes. I guess that's human nature to brag on what you've got.:chat:

Jack

We will be looking forward to all that. I will be a watcher and not a buyer the next go around. I'm happy and the funds are not quite as plentiful. :roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

But the fun is in trying to find useful information prior to any official announcements anyway...

 

[ARtraveler]

But the fun is in trying to find useful information prior to any official announcements anyway...

:yes::yes::yes: I am fully on board with all that. I like to talk with my dealer and tell him what he can expect at the national meeting. Most times, the information on SL is way ahead of the dealer network. :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

What was the name of the website, that broke the 2014 RT news last year? :dontknow:
We got the pictures in here right before July 4th...

 

[jaherbst]

What was the name of the website, that broke the 2014 RT news last year? :dontknow:
We got the pictures in here right before July 4th... [/QUOTE

OK Bob you have 16 posts on this thread. Honestly how many times did you vote in the poll??? Be honest now!:roflblack::joke:

 

[Bob Denman]

Uno... nojoke

 

[jaherbst]

Uno... nojoke

Just kidding Bob. Always enjoy your input!

 

[martiniman]

Here are some points to ponder.

:ani29:: A savings of $9,000 is some serious money.

:ani29:: The 2013 models had some heat issues. You may or may not end up with one of those.

:ani29:: New technology on the 2014's. 3 cylinder 1330cc engine vs. 2 cylinder 998cc engine. 6 speed gearbox vs. 5 speed gearbox.

:ani29:: More wow posts on the 14's vs. many complaint posts on the 13's.

Others will come on with ideas. My best suggestion is to test drive and see which one has the best "vibes" (in a good way) for you.

And less maintenance with the 14's.....main reason I went with the 14 along with the upgrades.

 

[Bob Denman]

The results of a WFO run...

... and how the two bikes compare...

The 998 RTs usually scamper right up to about 97 mph...
...and then take their sweet time getting to the ton! :shocked:

I decided to give the 1330 a quick snort of speed, in a spot where the 998 never reached over 98 mph...
The bike jumped right up to 97; just like it's predecessor...
...and then kept pulling! :thumbup:
It made it to the ton with room to spare on this shorter, slightly uphill grade.
It went from 97, to 100 mph in about a third of the time that the 998s took for the same increase.
It's still no rocketship; but these hamsters definitely have bigger muscles! :2thumbs:

 

[Magdave]

... and how the two bikes compare...

The 998 RTs usually scamper right up to about 97 mph...
...and then take their sweet time getting to the ton! :shocked:

I decided to give the 1330 a quick snort of speed, in a spot where the 998 never reached over 98 mph...
The bike jumped right up to 97; just like it's predecessor...
...and then kept pulling! :thumbup:
It made it to the ton with room to spare on this shorter, slightly uphill grade.
It went from 97, to 100 mph in about a third of the time that the 998s took for the same increase.
It's still no rocketship; but these hamsters definitely have bigger muscles! :2thumbs:

:yikes: But who in their right minds runs at those speeds :roflblack: Oh never mind...:spyder:

 

[Bob Denman]

pps: I've got to admit; it's not something that I like to do... pps:
It was PURELY in the realm of an experiment for the sake of allowing prospective RT customers to learn about the potential of the bikes...


... which is WAY above mine!