2010 RS SE5 with 300 miles. Yes, actually less miles on it, but it won't start! Please help...

[RCWatchman]

I do not want to upset anyone with a possible repeat, but I have researched this all over the web and I am not finding what I need to get this Spyder running. I bought this new and it has had the recall power steering unit changed, right after I got it. Then I drove it home and parked it in a climate controlled shop in my backyard, where it has been sitting for years. It looks showroom new. I have kept up with all the fluids, including draining the gas tank and refilling it several times.

About a year ago, I took an interest in getting it running, again, so I put in a fresh battery; drained and refilled the tank with fresh gas and a little Seafoam; I flushed out the fuel rail; replaced the main fuel filter; topped off the brake fluid and antifreeze; and proceeded to go through the start-up sequence. Turning the key on, the fuel pump pressurized the fuel rail; I heard the click of the fuel injectors; the brake was set; Neutral light was lit; I hit the mode switch; aaaannnnd, it cranked beautifully but would not fire. When I sprayed a little ether in both sides of the throttle body, it started and ran for an exciting moment, and then died.

I have been through all the fuses and relays; rechecked the battery and connections; and the brake switches. Nothing is rusted, corroded, or chewed. I have all the plastic removed so I can get to everything. I know its not getting fuel, but I am totally at the end of what I know. Please, does anyone have any idea as to what I am missing? Please respond, Thanks.

PS, I do have the factory manual...

 

[racoon]

Did you check the spark plugs to see if they're fouled?

 

[Cobranut]

I suspect your fuel injectors may be stuck.
Try cranking a few times and pull the plugs.
If they're dry, the injectors may be stuck closed. If wet with gas, they may be stuck open and flooding the bike.

Once you do figure out the problem, if it was flooded, I'd change the oil before running it more than a couple minutes.

 

[RCWatchman]

I had checked the plugs a while back and they were dry and not fouled at the time, but I have done other things since, so I will check them again to see if that has changed. Another problem I am up against with the injectors, I would like to pull the fuel rail and the injectors, but even if the injectors are stuck or plugged, they no longer have injectors available for this motor. I might get by with a good cleaning of the injectors but another problem is they no longer have the fuel rail gaskets, so if the old ones get damaged, I am sunk. It's my own fault, I should have ridden it more or sold it. Does anyone know where I might find a set of the gaskets? Please let me know. Regardless, I will re-inspect the plugs for wet gas and get back to you.

I know there are ways to attempt FI cleaning without removing them. I will let you know how it goes, and thank you for your thoughts...

 

[racoon]

A bit of time beating up on the Google search engine, and I identified two possible part numbers for the fuel injectors on a 2010 RS SE5.

420874488 (and maybe 420874487)

I found two websites that listed the 420874488 part number.
One of them has a list of the models that that part fits, and one of them is a 2010 Spyder.

It says "Expected to Ship in 4-9 Days" which means they might not actually have any, but it's worth contacting them.
The phone number on the website is area code 503, which is Oregon.

https://www.motosport.com/oem-parts/part-number/420874488

Listed at $119.99 each.

I think these may be the o-rings you need, one of each for each injector:

420631220 - "Expected to ship in 4-9 days"
420431890 - listed as in stock

 

[racoon]

I was pondering this a bit more, and another option for the injectors wiggled it's way into my tired brain.

And Google provided a possible answer, at least in my neck of the woods:

Tennessee Fuel Injector Cleaning - Injector Experts

If you have fuel injectors that need cleaning and live in Tennessee call InjectorExperts at 419-619-6650 for immediate assistance

cleaninginjector.com

They do have a list of injectors that they will work on, so reach out to them to see if they can help you.


I also found this place, which doesn't have a specific list,

Fuel Injector Cleaning - Freedom Automotive Tire & Service Center

See What We Have to Offer Top feed and side feed injector cleaning. New filters New baskets New O-rings or seals Full cleaning and backflow service Flow bench – ultrasonic soaking and cleaning New injectors New injector testing

freedomautomotiveservicecenter.com

It specifically suggests that you call and ask for an estimate.

 

[RCWatchman]

To @racoon, I thank you greatly for your time and effort. I am still going to try a non removal F-I cleaning but thinking about how long they have set, I believe they will have to be rebuilt or replaced. Thank you for giving me places to contact, and I would not hesitate to pull the injectors, not so much for the O-rings but my main concern is the fuel rail flat gaskets, (see photo exploded view ref #2). I would assume these two flat fuel rail gaskets, one on the left front and one on right rear of the throttle body would not be reusable and everywhere I have searched, I find they are no longer made or available. I will continue to work on this and will talk to the leads you have given me. I will continue to post how it goes. Thank you again.

 

[RCWatchman]

I checked with the Tennessee FI service company, talked with Keith. He is very knowledgeable and assured me he could service what I had. So, I am going to concentrate more on finding or making the fuel rail gaskets. I also sent a plea to BRP, I hope they will offer some help for this as well. Regardless, I now have hope I can get it running and that feels good. Racoon, thanks again and a shout out to Cobranut as well. You guys helped me to think more outside the box. Don't know if you are following this, but I will post again as things progress... Thanks

 

[DickB]

To @racoon, I thank you greatly for your time and effort. I am still going to try a non removal F-I cleaning but thinking about how long they have set, I believe they will have to be rebuilt or replaced. Thank you for giving me places to contact, and I would not hesitate to pull the injectors, not so much for the O-rings but my main concern is the fuel rail flat gaskets, (see photo exploded view ref #2). I would assume these two flat fuel rail gaskets, one on the left front and one on right rear of the throttle body would not be reusable and everywhere I have searched, I find they are no longer made or available. I will continue to work on this and will talk to the leads you have given me. I will continue to post how it goes. Thank you again.

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Are the gaskets you are looking for not a part of this Venturi Repair Kit?