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1st 600 miles service

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I did read my manual, and refer you to page 49 where it says "Operating During Break-In". It states "after the break-in period, your vehicle should be inspected as per the MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE." Now you could say you do all of the first inspection without the oil change part at 600, but the owners manual does not say that. Either way, as for the amount of money I paid for my spyder I'll follow the manual where it says that at 600 you do the first inspection. Then when I go 9300 miles or 1 year I will change the oil again.

Either way, since I have already passed my 600 miles, and doubt I will hit 9900 miles during this ryding season it is a remote point for me.

Another interesting point is on page 49 it states "
after the break-in period, your vehicle should be inspected". This means (to me) that it is a suggestion, and not a requirement. Yet the dealers will say it is a requirement.
 

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I did read my manual, and refer you to page 49 where it says "Operating During Break-In". It states "after the break-in period, your vehicle should be inspected as per the MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE." Now you could say you do all of the first inspection without the oil change part at 600, but the owners manual does not say that. Either way, as for the amount of money I paid for my spyder I'll follow the manual where it says that at 600 you do the first inspection. Then when I go 9300 miles or 1 year I will change the oil again.

Either way, since I have already passed my 600 miles, and doubt I will hit 9900 miles during this ryding season it is a remote point for me.

Another interesting point is on page 49 it states "
after the break-in period, your vehicle should be inspected". This means (to me) that it is a suggestion, and not a requirement. Yet the dealers will say it is a requirement.

I quote from page 49 of your manual. "After the break-in period, your vehicle should be inspected as per the MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE." I am sorry, but how can you interpret that to mean ignoring the Maintenance Schedule. Maybe it could be written better. Still the Maintenance Schedule says 3,000 mi. That statement says to follow the Schedule. :dontknow::dontknow:
 
Interesting how this has gone from an informational thread to the usual nit-picking and disagreements. :yikes:

BRP these days seems to always be lurking in the corners.

How about coming forth and giving the "True BRP" version of what is considered break-in, break-in service, and oil change/oil filter intervals on both the 990/998 twins, and 1330 triples.

The copy/paste method for manuals--IMO--has never worked well. The dealer mechanics and sales people mostly don't have a clue about the proper servicing.

I had an oil change plus battery, plus brakes service on my 14 this week. The 2014 is now leaking oil like a sieve, they did not have a transmission filter in stock, and it took them two days to perform a service that I had an appt. for a week in advance. So much for the "new" service advisor and the "new" factory trained mechanic. I for one, am slowly becoming disenchanted.

PS. There is now only one dealer in the whole state, so I am stuck.

Rant over.
 
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Just got that done. I need people opinion on the cost. I was charged $457 for this service. I was told there is $297 for labor and the rest for parts.
A little stiff for my taste. Does that sound in line with other dealers? Just curious...

I know it was unnecessary, but I had an oil and filter change (only) at 600 miles in an abundance of caution - cost $188.00 for everything. When I bought my Spyder, I negotiated for a free 3000 mile service as part of the deal.
 
I know it was unnecessary, but I had an oil and filter change (only) at 600 miles in an abundance of caution - cost $188.00 for everything. When I bought my Spyder, I negotiated for a free 3000 mile service as part of the deal.

If that is your choice and you fully understand that it is early. Nothing wrong with that. Whether by misunderstanding or deception. If people believe that doing the first service before it is specified by the manufacturer is somehow required. That needs to be cleared up.
 
If that is your choice and you fully understand that it is early. Nothing wrong with that. Whether by misunderstanding or deception. If people believe that doing the first service before it is specified by the manufacturer is somehow required. That needs to be cleared up.

And...then the other side. When we bought our new 2011, 998/600 mile first service...picked up on a Friday, we put over 700 miles on it the first couple days. Made an appt. for "first service" on Monday. We had to wait a week. It got first service at a little over 1,500 miles. No issues or problems--still running good at 28K miles. Dealer also told us not to worry about it.
 
The dealer and owners manual for my ‘17 F3L says 3k for first oil change. So not only was it too expensive it was unnecessary. I’d go back and tell dealer he owes you a free oil change.
 
I quote from page 49 of your manual. "After the break-in period, your vehicle should be inspected as per the MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE." I am sorry, but how can you interpret that to mean ignoring the Maintenance Schedule. Maybe it could be written better. Still the Maintenance Schedule says 3,000 mi. That statement says to follow the Schedule. :dontknow::dontknow:

After re-reading the book I'll give you that I was wrong on the details, but I'm still glad I did my 3,000 at 600.
 
The manual for 2013 states that the Spyder is to be inspected by the dealer at 600 miles at the owners expense, on page 126. There is a sign off for the dealer on that page. Guess that is where the confusion began. The dealer should know what they are to do at 600 miles. It's not unusual to have the oil changed at 500 miles on a new motorcycle engine.
 
The manual for 2013 states that the Spyder is to be inspected by the dealer at 600 miles at the owners expense, on page 126. There is a sign off for the dealer on that page. Guess that is where the confusion began. The dealer should know what they are to do at 600 miles. It's not unusual to have the oil changed at 500 miles on a new motorcycle engine.

True regarding the 2013, a V-twin, but the OP has a 1330 ACE engine and the break-in inspection page on 2014 and later RTs operator's guides says 3,000 miles.
 
If that is your choice and you fully understand that it is early. Nothing wrong with that. Whether by misunderstanding or deception. If people believe that doing the first service before it is specified by the manufacturer is somehow required. That needs to be cleared up.

I wasn't deceived or misled. Nobody told me to do it and I totally knew it wasn't required. I'm just really careful with my machinery and thought that spending the $$$ for an early oil change would get rid of metal shavings left over from manufacturing, since I've always heard that a great deal of wear and tear takes place in the first few hundred miles. Maybe that's wrong, I dunno. Doing the early oil change might or might not help the engine last longer but I figured it sure wouldn't hurt. It'll still get the actual required first service at 3000 and that will be coming soon.
 
After re-reading the book I'll give you that I was wrong on the details, but I'm still glad I did my 3,000 at 600.

Earlier is never bad. Just the cost if you are paying a dealer to do it. Most people do not wait the full 9,300 miles in between either. So far, I am at once a year, but have not got to close to the 9,300 interval.
 
Earlier is never bad. Just the cost if you are paying a dealer to do it. Most people do not wait the full 9,300 miles in between either. So far, I am at once a year, but have not got to close to the 9,300 interval.

When I lived in Calif. I could have followed the mileage requirements, but now that I'm in Missouri I'll most likely be once a year. I'm still glad I did it at 600 miles.
 
My owners manual says break-in period inspection is 3,000 miles and then every 9,300 miles OR every year thereafter (based on which comes first). This on the 1330 engine, NOT the V-Twin.

I would NOT go back to that dealer....ye’s feeding you false information and getting rich off of it.
 
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