$10K Spyders for 2019

[SXSMachine]

It will be interesting and it may be necessary depending on Yamaha entry price point to get legs in the door of dealers Vs the horrible whatever it was they called it. ech but it does open the market to new players without having to try and do it alone as a non-market distributed player.

 

[den1953]

The only way would be a lighter smaller Spyder with maybe less features or less expensive bodywork. Possibly a new smaller twin cylinder motor (think vertical twin maybe 2/3 of the current triple) and maybe with only a manual shift transmission.

 

[Harold Knobel]

Spyder prices

Imagine what you would have left if you took $20,000.00 off your RT or $10,00.00 off your F3...:dontknow: not much..... the hounds are leaving the room muttering.." we're not pulling him around..!!"...:roflblack::roflblack:

Nonsense, The Spyders are vastly overpriced compared to cars-I know car volume allows price reduction. Still the Koreans could build the basic Spyders for 6000 less and still be profitable. Also, service costs are out of the park, but I admit this thing is very difficult to work on- they gave NO consideration to service. Removing the rear valve cover is a nightmare, supposed to be done to check valves, which is why it is often skipped. Fun, but not very reliable and often very difficult to service.
Harold

 

[ARtraveler]

Nonsense, The Spyders are vastly overpriced compared to cars-I know car volume allows price reduction. Still the Koreans could build the basic Spyders for 6000 less and still be profitable. Also, service costs are out of the park, but I admit this thing is very difficult to work on- they gave NO consideration to service. Removing the rear valve cover is a nightmare, supposed to be done to check valves, which is why it is often skipped. Fun, but not very reliable and often very difficult to service.
Harold

Time will tell. We have speculated this one many times. It is either going to be good or not. The market will determine if the new proposed Spyder is going to be a winner or not. Agree about the pricing. I am pretty sure they use the "what the market will bear" pricing method--but since I am not in the cost accounting department at BRP--:dontknow::dontknow: Judge Judy would say--hearsay and not admissible as evidence. :roflblack::roflblack:

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Nonsense, The Spyders are vastly overpriced compared to cars-I know car volume allows price reduction. Still the Koreans could build the basic Spyders for 6000 less and still be profitable.

Volume plays a part, certainly, but just as much, if not more, is automation. A significant portion of auto assembly is done by robots. I don't recall seeing a single robot on the Spyder assembly line at Valcourt during Homecoming visit there.

 

[SXSMachine]

The only way would be a lighter smaller Spyder with maybe less features or less expensive bodywork. Possibly a new smaller twin cylinder motor (think vertical twin maybe 2/3 of the current triple) and maybe with only a manual shift transmission.

The Have a lot of detuned ATV motors that they can whack a sportier cam in to get some more revs and keep torque. That and Rotax is in bed with them and so any and every rotax motor from glider motors etc that are quite efficient may be on the cards.

 

[SXSMachine]

Can Am did build a new Factory this year down in Mexico Juarez so that will have a significant role in cost I believe they will need to build the cheaper version down there.

 

[WackyDan]

Honestly...

Who here would even want a $10k spyder?

It certainly is going to have a smaller motor, and very limited creature comforts. My bet is that none of us would buy one. If they are making a budget model it will be for an entirely different demographic.

 

[bikerbillone]

Nonsense, The Spyders are vastly overpriced compared to cars-I know car volume allows price reduction. Still the Koreans could build the basic Spyders for 6000 less and still be profitable. Also, service costs are out of the park, but I admit this thing is very difficult to work on- they gave NO consideration to service. Removing the rear valve cover is a nightmare, supposed to be done to check valves, which is why it is often skipped. Fun, but not very reliable and often very difficult to service.
Harold

Interesting comment. I'm a 2005, GW/2012 Road Smith conversion, and lurk on this Spyder forum, just looking. I love the configuration of the RTL especially, but that 'going in price' scares me, so I scan the classifieds for the 2014 thru 2016; the maintenance scares me and I'm not one of those who can afford the high dealer costs. I could conceivable 'DIY' but getting a bit long in the tooth to be pulling tupperware. Anyway, color me 'simply looking' and enjoy the read.

 

[jcthorne]

Interesting comment. I'm a 2005, GW/2012 Road Smith conversion, and lurk on this Spyder forum, just looking. I love the configuration of the RTL especially, but that 'going in price' scares me, so I scan the classifieds for the 2014 thru 2016; the maintenance scares me and I'm not one of those who can afford the high dealer costs. I could conceivable 'DIY' but getting a bit long in the tooth to be pulling tupperware. Anyway, color me 'simply looking' and enjoy the read.

If you are used to working on a Goldwing, tupperware is no stranger to you. I have assisted fellow riders that own GWs and while I do not service them, I have seen they are every bit as complex to undress for service as any Spyder. Actually the F3 is far easier to service than what I saw of the GW. The Spyder is different, but no more difficult.

 

[Darren111]

Honestly...

Who here would even want a $10k spyder?

It certainly is going to have a smaller motor, and very limited creature comforts. My bet is that none of us would buy one. If they are making a budget model it will be for an entirely different demographic.

Hi WackyDan, I have a 2105 F3-S and I would certainly buy a 10k Spyder. I would keep my F3-S for long motorway distances like I do to Kent every year (Just over 200 miles from where I live) and have the 10k Spyder has a run around toy around the city. Can Am bring on the budget model Spyder you have a customer here in the UK. :yes::yes::yes:

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

I'd buy one today as long as the riding position wasn't a cruiser style and it had enough power. Based on the weight of the Spyders from 2008-2018 I don't think most riders (even new ones) would be happy with a bike with less than 100hp unless the new model is on a serious weight reduction program. I'd welcome a lighter model as well.

Bare bones features, very little tupperware, sport riding position, decent power to weight ratio. I'd be all over it. Probably buy 2, one for me and the wife.

 

[ARtraveler]

Time will tell how many "buyers" are going to bite. Not me. I am not going from a Cadillac to an entry level Chevy. :yes:

 

[Bob Denman]

"ProjectS",(Or whatever they call it); isn't aimed at us; and it never was intended to replace our GS/RS/RT/F-3.
It's aimed at the new rider, or the rider who is looking for an "Around-Town" ride, and little more. Just like Darren suggested!
I'd get one for my Missus, if she wanted one. nojoke

 

[IWN2RYD]

Just wanted to let everyone know that YES there will in fact be a cheaper (under $10K) Spyder joining the Spyder family for the 2019 model year, which will likely be introduced in Fall of 2018. BRP has been laying the infrastructure for the introduction for two years, as they have partnered with multiple states to create a Spyder specific riding course. BRP is continuing the discounted courses and is putting a focused and extensive effort to build these courses before the launch of an entry level product. As getting new riders, and growing the brand through a varying demographic is key, and this has and will be paramount in building the brand. So many new riders are intrigued with the Spyder but refuse to shell out $20k plus for a new machine that they have ZERO idea if they will like it or what it's about. The same person is often fearful of buying pre-owned again not knowing exactly what they are looking for, which is where an entry level Spyder is a great fit. As a dealer we are anticipating a completely new machine, what that means we also don't have an idea. From the short media video shown at their Dealer Meeting in Dallas, it looked to possibly be a single seat machine with styling queues reminiscent of both the RS/GS and the F3.

As was mentioned in several posts, the PWC segment has exploded in the last few years and IMO, the Spark has a lot to do with that, by making an enjoyable product for a price conscious shopper. We anticipate and hope that the new Spyder will have a very similar effect for the 3 wheeled market.

Tonight is your night yes? The big reveal?

 

[armyspydervet]

People who don’t believe there will be a 10k Spyder don’t follow the motorcycle industry as a whole. All major brands are developing lower cost platforms to market to millennials and commuters. Look at Indian and HD and you will see their versions of these bikes. If you buy it or not is another question. I don’t think it will be marketed toward the RT or the F3 rider unless it is for a second machine. IMHO

 

[Bob Denman]

We'll know a whole lot more in about 11 hours...

Tic k. . . Tick . . . Tick . . .

 

[wilpir]

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:

 

[cheska]

The secret S

I want one for the wife. But then she will probably get the RTS and I will get the new one. But it works for me.

 

[BryanSD]

I want one!

Honestly...

Who here would even want a $10k spyder?

It certainly is going to have a smaller motor, and very limited creature comforts. My bet is that none of us would buy one. If they are making a budget model it will be for an entirely different demographic.

I definitely would want one. My wife and I share a 2017 RT Limited and can't justify spending the same amount of cash for a second one on the current Spyder prices. Now give the option of a cheaper Spyder and you'll see each of us riding around town on our own reverse Trike. I think the biggest question will be are you better off in buying this cheaper but new version of a Spyder or are you better off buying a used more featured Spyder for not much more? Time will tell.

I do indeed hope this cheaper Spyder does reach an entire different and younger demographic. It's pretty unsettling for my wife and I to be in our 50's and find out we're the youngest couple (sometimes by a decade or two) when we're riding with other Spyder and Harley Davidson riders. No offense to our older friends (we love them to death) but when you have younger riders with you in the crowd it's nice to be reminded the importance of being "young at heart". It's also nice to be challenged by the younger adults...to show you can still keep up with them (on a good day).