Spyder excluded from MSF course for Army Soldiers

[Major Finder]

I want to share some information with you based on my conversation with the Combat Readiness Center (CRC) Point of Contact for the Army Motorcycle Program here at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
In accordance with Depart of Defense Instruction, 6055.4, Traffic Safety Program, motorcycles with attached sidecars and three-wheel motorcycles are excluded from the required Army motorcycle training. (I can send the document file by email to anyone who is interested.)
According to my conversation with the post CRC the main reason behind the exclusion is that a motorcycle with sidecar and/or a three-wheel motorcycle is considered a more stable vehicle than the two-wheel motorcycle. The requirement to wear appropriate personal protective clothing is not an option regardless of whether the individual chooses to operate a two-wheel or three-wheel motorcycle. So you still have to wear a helmet, gloves, boots, long pants, and reflective belt or vest.
I would still recommend attending a MSF course due to the extra safety information available to a new rider but there is no requirement to ride the Spyder through the cone course of the MSF in order to ride.
We have two Spyders here at Fort Leavenworth and it took me over one very frustrating month to get this process figured out last summer so I could ryde legally.
I hope this helps any military who are having challenges.


Major Finder, Infantry

 

[SpyderDog65]

I want to share some information with you based on my conversation with the Combat Readiness Center (CRC) Point of Contact for the Army Motorcycle Program here at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
In accordance with Depart of Defense Instruction, 6055.4, Traffic Safety Program, motorcycles with attached sidecars and three-wheel motorcycles are excluded from the required Army motorcycle training. (I can send the document file by email to anyone who is interested.)
According to my conversation with the post CRC the main reason behind the exclusion is that a motorcycle with sidecar and/or a three-wheel motorcycle is considered a more stable vehicle than the two-wheel motorcycle. The requirement to wear appropriate personal protective clothing is not an option regardless of whether the individual chooses to operate a two-wheel or three-wheel motorcycle. So you still have to wear a helmet, gloves, boots, long pants, and reflective belt or vest.
I would still recommend attending a MSF course due to the extra safety information available to a new rider but there is no requirement to ride the Spyder through the cone course of the MSF in order to ride.
We have two Spyders here at Fort Leavenworth and it took me over one very frustrating month to get this process figured out last summer so I could ryde legally.
I hope this helps any military who are having challenges.


Major Finder, Infantry

Nice Spyder MajorFinder they must not have any red ones left they day u bought that one lol.....didnt anyone ever tell u RED IS BEST :roflblack:jk..........Michael

 

[rmcalpin98]

In need

I would like the file to have for reference here at Ft Gordon. It would help out alot

 

[xpeschon]

This is GREAT NEWS I sent you a PM to send me the documents cause it effects my wife and not me, so please check your messages.. Thank you for the information.. Hey why don't you check out the ride I'm putting together.. Its in the form Labeled USO LEBANON ride.. See if you can make it down here.. Its not that far away.. See the post and PLEASE leave a message with it..

Again
Thank you very much..
Joe

 

[tnfleming]

The bike looks great and thank you for your service in our military. God bless you and your family.

 

[Mo Lee]

Thanks MajorFinder I think you had mentioned this once before and I never got around to checking with you. I inquired about this when I registered my Spyder here at Fort Wood and was told that they had received a message to that effect but it was canceled and we were still required to take the course. I never pressed the issue since I already had the course and the wife hasn't started riding yet. It might be a local requirement like the old rule (you can add to but can't take away from regulations). Joe keep me informed and I would start with the Safety Office. I've had to deal with them several times in the past when the registration office did not want to honor my MSF card because it wasn't from Ft Wood.

 

[wyliec]

I'm retired military and sometimes go to Ft. Drum (upstate NY). Up to this point I only drove my car on base. I've read through this thread and I am now wondering if I will be able to drive on base with the Spyder?

I have a DM license; but, have never taken the MSF course. If I am going to look up a phone number at Ft. Drum, what dept. do I need to talk to?

Thanks

 

[cousin]

:clap:Thanks for your service to our "wounderful country":2thumbs: in your pic.(upper left corner) is that a ATV with a cab? COMBAT ENGINEERS build the way!!!! HOA:thumbup: 26yrs. Ret.Res.

 

[Major Finder]

I'm retired military and sometimes go to Ft. Drum (upstate NY). Up to this point I only drove my car on base. I've read through this thread and I am now wondering if I will be able to drive on base with the Spyder?

I have a DM license; but, have never taken the MSF course. If I am going to look up a phone number at Ft. Drum, what dept. do I need to talk to?

Thanks

I would call the Combat Readiness Center (CRC) which is the Safety Office that handles the MSF course. If you are just concerned about riding the Spyder on post and getting access, you could call the Provost Marshall's Office and arrange to register to get the DOD sticker for your windshield. With the sticker, you could show your I.D. to the gate guards and ride through. Otherwise, legal and licensed motorcycles with riders with the appropriate safey gear should be allowed access to post to use the PX, go to the museums, use the commissary, etc.
I hope that helps.

Major Finder

 

[Major Finder]

Nice Spyder MajorFinder they must not have any red ones left they day u bought that one lol.....didnt anyone ever tell u RED IS BEST :roflblack:jk..........Michael

Ha, ha. I LOVE my yellow Spyder! I don't think CanAm had released the new red ones when I bought mine about this time last year. I taught Army ROTC in Lincoln, Nebraska, home of the Cornhuskers football team! "GO BIG RED!" A red Spyder would be very popular in Nebraska.

I like your license plate, SpyderDog65! Good choice.

Major Finder

 

[nyfdtsdemt]

Army is being nice

Hey guys I am in the Navy and they made it mandatory to take the class but it was done on two wheels,(to bring any bike on base.) But as per my instructor in TN the spyder wont fit on the MSF basic course but it will fit on the advanced course. Some folkes went to HD in Collierville TN and they were happy with the class.

 

[K.C.]

The course is mandatory for all personnel riding on and/or off base that is serving active duty or the reserves in the Coast Guard if it has an engine larger than 50cc and offers no seat belt no matter if it has 2 or 3 wheels.

 

[SSG Bean]

I chose a MSF course that provided the cheap learning bikes, because I was also informed that it was a necessity to get my window decal at Leavenworth. I probably would have taken it regardless of whether the Army required it or not. The other positive consequence of taking the MSF course is that I was able to use that to get a MO motorcycle endorsement. I've heard the riders test for a license is nearly impossible on a Spyder.:thumbup: