215/60R15 Michelin Hydroedge wear report

[joshuaberryhill]

I am reading more on those. Wasn't sure about car tire, pressure, etc. And I was told by some pencil geek tech @ the cust. Service that I would void my warranty on the bike mechanics if something were to go wrong. But @ this point anything but a tire from BRP. I just feel someone else deserves my business from this point forward on tires, only due to how I was treated. My dealer is great and a friend. He told me that they will eat the labor cost. But I need to make a decision on the tire. So it's not a money issue but more principal. My car tires for 4 didn't cost 700.00.
But I did see the ARACHNID on a Harley trike and it was new with about 350 miles on it and it looked so much more meatier in tread depth. Which do you have on yours??? I'm on a 2012 rt limited.

Some say discount tire, and there is one just around the corner from me so if yours is good maybe I can see if they have 1 in stock to look at. Please let me know

 

[ulflyer]

divide 8.7 by 1.7 and multiply by 5000 = 25,500 to zero tread

so....... another 15,000 to the wear bars ?????????

Thanks for doing the math for me.

I'm not that optimistic but if I can get 15K I'd be thrilled. On previous '11, with same tire, it had 10-12K (forget exactly) when traded and it still had lots of tread left so I was expecting at least 15K on it. Will keep my fingers crossed.

 

[Roadster Renovations]

I now have over 3,000 miles on my Hydroedge and it looks brand new. Today, we started out in Portland, Maine and landed in Hershey, PA. About 500 miles all told. Some of the route took us right on the edge on NYC and Newark. Those people like their speed and you better match them or get out of their way. I had not rode the hydroedge much in the rain and some had said that the stiffness of the tire vs. the weight of the bike could make hydroplaning a possibility. It rained most of today so I got to test it under what I would consider some of the toughest driving around. If the speed limit is 55, they will run 80. The road has some tight curves and if you don't have traction you are in big trouble. I started carefully and as I rode longer and longer I became completely confidant of the tire. It worked perfectly. I am running about 27 psi in it. This tire may have an issue in 30,000 miles after it wears some, but by that time I would have bought 5 Kendras based upon the mileage I got on the first tire.

 

[tigerdr]

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[sddinnh]

I now have over 3,000 miles on my Hydroedge and it looks brand new. Today, we started out in Portland, Maine and landed in Hershey, PA. About 500 miles all told. Some of the route took us right on the edge on NYC and Newark. Those people like their speed and you better match them or get out of their way. I had not rode the hydroedge much in the rain and some had said that the stiffness of the tire vs. the weight of the bike could make hydroplaning a possibility. It rained most of today so I got to test it under what I would consider some of the toughest driving around. If the speed limit is 55, they will run 80. The road has some tight curves and if you don't have traction you are in big trouble. I started carefully and as I rode longer and longer I became completely confidant of the tire. It worked perfectly. I am running about 27 psi in it. This tire may have an issue in 30,000 miles after it wears some, but by that time I would have bought 5 Kendras based upon the mileage I got on the first tire.

It's a good fit on the Spyder for me. I ran it up thru Quebec last summer and it performed flawlessly, rain or shine. After I was happy, I went out and bought a second one so I'd have a "spare". Too bad they discontinued them. I'm on a hunt now for a new front, but there's no rush, the Kendas seem to be holding up fine now that we got the cupping straightened out.

 

[MarkLawson]

And how is it holding up to the extended use? How much tread depth do you still have? :dontknow:

Bob, I have 15,413 miles on my HydroEdge rear tire after about 2.5 years on the RT. It shows between 7 & 8 on the tread depth gauge. When I check the pressure, which isn't as often as it should be, I set it to run at 28 psi. Have not noticed any significant pressure loss, although I'm sure I make pressure adjustments when checking and needed.

Tire looks good.

I have had a significant hydroplaning incident not long after installing it. I was on the interstate and running around 70 mph pulling my loaded RT622 trailer. Hit a strong thunderstorm that put a good amount of water on the highway. The tire broke traction while doing a slight acceleration to get away from some tractor trailer rigs that were blowing out a good amount of spray. It did take me by surprise and I was able to easily duplicate the loss of traction in that same storm. I have not had that happen again.

 

[MarkLawson]

It's a good fit on the Spyder for me. I ran it up thru Quebec last summer and it performed flawlessly, rain or shine. After I was happy, I went out and bought a second one so I'd have a "spare". Too bad they discontinued them. I'm on a hunt now for a new front, but there's no rush, the Kendas seem to be holding up fine now that we got the cupping straightened out.

I put the Michelin Defenders on my fronts. Went with the next size wider, which made them a pain to get into the fender opening, as the edge of the fender kept wanting to drop down into a tire groove. Would have been easy if I'd had a third hand! I have seen no issue with tire rub inside the fender.

When the time comes, I suspect I'll replace them more due to tire age & compound hardening rather than tread wear out.

 

[MarkLawson]

I saw a report from Consumer Reports about a new Michelin tire (Premier A/S) that has excellent traction in both dry & wet conditions. Unlike most every other tire, this new tire retain ALL of it's wet/dry traction as the tread is wears. Most tires, if not all, lose wet traction as the tread depth decreases.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...at-doesn-t-give-up-grip-as-it-wears/index.htm

When the time comes, I may be look at this new one as replacements if the sizes are available.

 

[syclemom]

Hydroedge

I have been missing for awhile due to family and work issues, am glad to see all the positive comments on the 215/60-15 Hydroedge, I was the guinnea pig that started this in 2010. We have since switched to the Altimax Rt mostly for availability and match to her Altimax Rt 175/65-14 fronts. Still running 21psi. front 17psi. rear she is now approaching 70000miles with "O" issues with what we were told was the first RTs sold in Texas on Jan.5, 2010 . We are heading to the Florida Keyes in a month or so and she will pull our Bunkhouse, That will be our S.E. corner since she rode it to Alaska a couple of years ago , it is very tempting to move her to a new 1330 trying to hold her off I told her we would talk about it at 100,000 miles, hers still uses next to no oil between changes been on Mobil 1 10w-40 since 2nd oil change.

 

[MarkLawson]

I have been missing for awhile due to family and work issues, am glad to see all the positive comments on the 215/60-15 Hydroedge, I was the guinnea pig that started this in 2010. We have since switched to the Altimax Rt mostly for availability and match to her Altimax Rt 175/65-14 fronts. Still running 21psi. front 17psi. rear she is now approaching 70000miles with "O" issues with what we were told was the first RTs sold in Texas on Jan.5, 2010 . We are heading to the Florida Keyes in a month or so and she will pull our Bunkhouse, That will be our S.E. corner since she rode it to Alaska a couple of years ago , it is very tempting to move her to a new 1330 trying to hold her off I told her we would talk about it at 100,000 miles, hers still uses next to no oil between changes been on Mobil 1 10w-40 since 2nd oil change.

I do recall a post about someone riding to Alaska and back running the HydroEdge 213/60R15 and having no Nanny issues. That was the post that convinced me to go with it. Thanks for mentoring me!

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

NANNY ISSUES

I do recall a post about someone riding to Alaska and back running the HydroEdge 213/60R15 and having no Nanny issues. That was the post that convinced me to go with it. Thanks for mentoring me!

....................IMHO.....( not as a Forum God :roflblack: ) I doubt very highly that there is any tire that will fit the OEM RIM that could possibly cause any problems with the " NANNY "..................Simply because the tire sizes available are limited........Remember it's more than just the Diameter of the Rim ....you also have to consider the Rim WIDTH...............just sayin.....Mike :thumbup:

 

[MarkLawson]

....................IMHO.....( not as a Forum God :roflblack: ) I doubt very highly that there is any tire that will fit the OEM RIM that could possibly cause any problems with the " NANNY "..................Simply because the tire sizes available are limited........Remember it's more than just the Diameter of the Rim ....you also have to consider the Rim WIDTH...............just sayin.....Mike :thumbup:

This tire is a different size than the OEM. It is "taller", giving it a larger circumference. As such, it rolls fewer revolutions than the OEM for the same distance traveled. As such, the Nanny can receive data from a wrong sized tire that will cause undesirable error conditions.

A few years back, my dealer had a Spyder in the shop for a couple of weeks that totally baffled them. It kept throwing error codes that they would run the prescribed diagnostics, find no problems, clear the codes, take for a test ride, only to have the same codes pop up. They finally called BRP tech support and was asked if the rear tire was a size different than the OEM, which it was, having been mounted just before the problem started. The new tire was swapped for one the proper size and the errors ceased. Nanny issues can be caused by wrong sized tires, so you must be careful with your selection.

 

[Highwayman2013]

215/60/15

Over 5,000 miles on my "wrong size" tire and the nanny is still asleep. The 215/60/15 works well for me and all the people that want to run the stock tire can run the stock tire.

 

[syclemom]

rear tire

I can tell you OVER 50,000mi. with 215/60-15 has never once had a nanny problem , think computer looks for DIFFERENCE in wheel speed once rolling to control traction, abs and diff. between front tires for stability control. "0" issues to date.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WHAT BRP IS REQUIRED TO TELL YOU

This tire is a different size than the OEM. It is "taller", giving it a larger circumference. As such, it rolls fewer revolutions than the OEM for the same distance traveled. As such, the Nanny can receive data from a wrong sized tire that will cause undesirable error conditions.

A few years back, my dealer had a Spyder in the shop for a couple of weeks that totally baffled them. It kept throwing error codes that they would run the prescribed diagnostics, find no problems, clear the codes, take for a test ride, only to have the same codes pop up. They finally called BRP tech support and was asked if the rear tire was a size different than the OEM, which it was, having been mounted just before the problem started. The new tire was swapped for one the proper size and the errors ceased. Nanny issues can be caused by wrong sized tires, so you must be careful with your selection.

:gaah:......BRP, the company and the people who work for them are only going to approve the KENDA tire .......PERIOD..........anything else technically violates the Warranty ....so do you think BRP is going to take that position...............and I stand by my earlier statement ..........There are no 14 or 15 inch Diameter tires that will fit the OEM RIMS ( the width ) that are going to cause a problem with the NANNY...........................However because I want to be absolutely positive on this I will check with TIRE RACK and find out if there are some really LARGE ...."ASPECT " ratio's in our sizes .......Mike :thumbup:

 

[retired1]

I ordered a replacement tire for my '10 RTS over the phone. I was sure he repeated the correct size back to me. The tire came and I got an appointment to get it installed. My dealer got it installed and called me and said that the bike was throwing codes. It all boiled down to them shipping me a 225/60/15. A tire can be installed on the can am rim and it will screw things up.

 

[MarkLawson]

:gaah:......BRP, the company and the people who work for them are only going to approve the KENDA tire .......PERIOD..........anything else technically violates the Warranty ....so do you think BRP is going to take that position...............and I stand by my earlier statement ..........There are no 14 or 15 inch Diameter tires that will fit the OEM RIMS ( the width ) that are going to cause a problem with the NANNY...........................However because I want to be absolutely positive on this I will check with TIRE RACK and find out if there are some really LARGE ...."ASPECT " ratio's in our sizes .......Mike :thumbup:

Not once did I talk about rim width. I was very clear concerning the circumference of the tire. You stand by your earlier statement if you want, but it is incorrect. I explained it and retired1 has also given an example of the wrong size causing codes.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

????????????

I ordered a replacement tire for my '10 RTS over the phone. I was sure he repeated the correct size back to me. The tire came and I got an appointment to get it installed. My dealer got it installed and called me and said that the bike was throwing codes. It all boiled down to them shipping me a 225/60/15. A tire can be installed on the can am rim and it will screw things up.

..............I said I was going to do some investigating on this tire size issue ....................Your dealer said the 225/60 -15 caused the Spyder to throw codes.....Well that tire turns 811 revs per mile ......................A 215/ 60-15 tire turns 827 revs per mile ( this tire does not throw codes ) ...........So your dealer is saying 16 revs per mile is going to upset the NANNY ......I think the either the dealer is BS'ing you or there is something else going wrong........it's not the size of the rear tire ...........................Lots of people here are putting on 215/60-15 michlein Hydro-edge tires and are not throwing codes ..............The difference in Diameter between the two is 4/10 ths of an inch..........................Mike :thumbup:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

NO YOU DIDN'T

Not once did I talk about rim width. I was very clear concerning the circumference of the tire. You stand by your earlier statement if you want, but it is incorrect. I explained it and retired1 has also given an example of the wrong size causing codes.

​....But I did because it's a very important part of the equation.........the RIM WIDTH limits how wide a tire can be put on a given RIM ie. you cannot fit a 225 tire onto a 5 inch rim...........And I answered retired1's tire issue with His dealer above ................Mike :thumbup:....................The numbers I quoted came from TIRE RACK web site.

 

[retired1]

What looks good on paper doesn't always work when put into practice.