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Hesitation on hard right turns
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Bob Denman
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Lawn Darts have more of a "lethal" look to them... :shocked:
billrob71
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:roflblack: Yep just a pillow fight
NancysToy
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That is how the BRP prototype test riders described the Spyder without the VSS.
Sorry but i totally disagree with their assessment. Ive ridden a spyder without VSS and considerably more power, and I can honestly say they are full of crap saying that....maybe if your a complete idiot with no common sense or have no coordination.
The VSS system is fantastic in the rain, similar to a car. However, not necessary on dry pavement and especially at low speeds for anyone with even average riding skills.
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Had the [FONT=arial, sans-serif]2013-9 update done last week and today it was 80 degrees so I took the RS-S out and flogged it good. It really does seem to run better and have faster response.... But every time I took a hard right turn and saw the VSS light flash I thought of this thread... Might be time to shim. It's getting really annoying.[/FONT]
SNOOPY
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Hmm..what flashes? I'm busy not getting thrown from the defective bike to notice a light?
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NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Unfortunately, in this litigation crazy world, a manufacturer has to cover his corporate behind. The technology doesn't exist to gauge a rider's skill or attention through the seat sensor, so they build for the average (or worse) rider under the most trying conditions. That probably goes triple for the Spyder, which often is marketed toward neophyte riders. We can lament the fact that we can't spin donuts, or we can learn to ride the Spyder within its capabilities and quirks, and wring everything possible out of it with our skill and perseverance. If I wanta go faster again I'll build another fuel bike or fuel dragster. My Spyder was not purchased to be a racer any more than it was purchased to be an off-road machine. JMHO
Let's be honest. If half the sport bikes out there can be sold....they could sell a sport Spyder with a greatly reduced VSS. Or at least give us an option to shut it off like almost every other vehicle with stability/traction control.
Yeah. There is a VSS light on the right gauge pod. Flashy Flashy.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
You won't get any argument from me on that score, but this was BRP's decision. Given their market demographic (and their large legal department), they chose what they felt best. It is what it is, and we can learn to live with it or buy 'Busas.
Or we can push for change and/or find ways to make it work for us.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying why they did or why they didn't do what they did. It's their company and they can make it as bozo proof as they deem necessary....as ridiculous as it may be for an experienced rider.
All I was saying is that their comments about it handling like a "lawn dart" are absolutely silly and 100% untrue.....that's all. :thumbup:
I've ridden many machines that pucker up the butt cheeks a LOT more than a spyder without VSS...
And I'm not that good of a rider....
All I was saying is that their comments about it handling like a "lawn dart" are absolutely silly and 100% untrue.....that's all. :thumbup:
I've ridden many machines that pucker up the butt cheeks a LOT more than a spyder without VSS...
And I'm not that good of a rider....
billrob71
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You won't see it during the day I've only seen mine at night , can't see it in the daylight but not really looking for it either
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying why they did or why they didn't do what they did. It's their company and they can make it as bozo proof as they deem necessary....as ridiculous as it may be for an experienced rider.
All I was saying is that their comments about it handling like a "lawn dart" are absolutely silly and 100% untrue.....that's all. :thumbup:
I've ridden many machines that pucker up the butt cheeks a LOT more than a spyder without VSS...
Remember that I was speaking of the prototype machines. I'm sure there were plenty of engineering changes to tame things since that time. It wouldn't take much to turn this type of design into a beast. Suspension geometry, steering ratios, power steering, brake control systems, horsepower, tire sizes and compounds, and a host of other things have been changed, added, or refined since those early years. I have served as a test rider or driver in the past, and it can be challenging at times. Those guys usually don't say these things for no reason...they are hard to scare. I'm sure they weren't just blowing smoke.
billrob71
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I half to agree, there is a common sense factor that needs to be there if it's raining and you ride like a idiot it's a good feature but for someone with good experience and know how to ride
, respects the machine and knows what the capability of the machine is there is a lot less chance for disaster.
That being said when hanging into a corner at higher speeds and not having the VSS kick in and have the potential for a unsuspecting rider to loose balance due the power shutting down and the bike straightening up I think is just as dangerous. Any possible way to lessen the VSS activation I wanna and am gonna try. I'm not looking to go and do a drifting contest or a big smokey donut with it but just want the bike to handle like a bike.
billrob71
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:roflblack:
See said picture for visual display
pointy horseshoes thrown at plastic circle on the ground
SNOOPY
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Bob Denman
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:agree: If they said it; you can bet, that's what they felt...:yikes:
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