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Learning to Ryde for First Timers.

Dan_Ashley

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Learning to ride a Spyder is not as easy as it looks. Here are some pointers to get you going as a Spyder Ryder:

1. Except for the lack of a hand brake, the Spyder SM's controls are exactly the same as on a motorcycle. The Spyder's SE controls are just a little different. Sit on the Spyder for a few minutes and work the controls. Make sure you AND your hands get used to the differences.
2. Also, the steering is different and you need to get used to it.
3. Start out driving the Spyder in a parking lot with your right hand in your back pocket. Leave the Spyder in first gear, steer it around the lot and do some figure-8s. Get used to the long pushes to turn corners.
4. You steer a Spyder much like a car. You will find it easiest to use a push-pull steering technique. That is, when you want to turn right, pull the right grip toward you while pushing the left grip away from you. Similarly, for a left turn, pull the left grip toward you while pushing the right grip away from you. This technique is especially useful making turns on twisties. You will find it much easier to pull the grip on a hard turn than trying to only push the grip.
5. You need to spend some time getting familiar with steering and evasive maneuvers. Your mind will keep telling you that you are on a bike. Train yourself to steer, not countersteer. Also, relax your grip on the handlebars. This will help eliminate fishtailing at high speed. Fishtailing is almost always a technique problem.
6. Don't try to put your foot down when you stop. Unless you have 50" legs, you probably can't reach the ground when sitting on a Spyder anyway.
7. Remember that the Spyder is wide and you have to compensate when you pull in next to a gasoline island or a toll plaza.
8. Drive the Spyder in a traffic lane positioned much like a car. Usually you will want to keep your body smack dab in the middle of the lane.
9. Turning long sweepers will be easy. Doing twisties will take some technique and a certain amount of muscle. Start practicing slowly, then learn how to lean your body to keep the inside wheel on the pavement. When you get comfortable with how the Spyder Rydes, then speed up. Don't rush the learning process.
10. Tight turns or decreasing radius turns on entrance and exit ramps are noticeably more difficult and require steady pressure.
11. Take a MSF Safety course. If you can't find one for 3 wheel motorcycles, then take one for two wheelers. The course will help a lot.


Tips:


Do not assume that since you've been riding motorcycles for 30 years, that you already know how to ride a Spyder. You may find yourself in the ditch.
 
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Learning to ride a Spyder is not as easy as it looks. Here are some pointers to get you going as a Spyder Ryder:


3. Start out driving the Spyder in a parking lot with your right hand in your back pocket.

Don't understand this one, did you mean left hand?
 
Don't understand this one, did you mean left hand?

The idea is to speed up to 15 MP H or so, then learn to steer one handed. After 20 minutes of this, your hands will get the idea how to turn.

I probably could have said it better. Thanks for pointing this out so I could explain it better.
 
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Left hand

The idea is to speed up to 15 MP H or so, then learn to steer one handed. After 20 minutes of this, your hands will get the idea how to turn.

I probably could have said it better. Thanks for pointing this out so I could explain it better.
I think he meant that if you have zero throttle it is tough to move through the parking lot.
 
:agree: With Joe, but can anybody explain why?

I am no expert but I believe it really has more to do with your arms than the Spyder. When you are doing anything and your arm muscles are stressed then you tend to have less fine motor control in your arms which means that you will over react/steer the spyder. If you relax your hold you reduce the stress in your arms and thus gain better motor control of your hand and are able to avoid over reacting/steering when your handlebars need to be moved.
 
Learning to ride a Spyder is not as easy as it looks. Here are some pointers to get you going as a Spyder Ryder:

1. Except for the lack of a hand brake, the Spyder SM's controls are exactly the same as on a motorcycle. The Spyder's SE controls are just a little different. Sit on the Spyder for a few minutes and work the controls. Make sure you AND your hands get used to the differences.
2. Also, the steering is different and you need to get used to it.
3. Start out driving the Spyder in a parking lot with your right hand in your back pocket. Leave the Spyder in first gear, steer it around the lot and do some figure-8s. Get used to the long pushes to turn corners.
4. You steer a Spyder much like a car. You will find it easiest to use a push-pull steering technique. That is, when you want to turn right, pull the right grip toward you while pushing the left grip away from you. Similarly, for a left turn, pull the left grip toward you while pushing the right grip away from you. This technique is especially useful making turns on twisties. You will find it much easier to pull the grip on a hard turn than trying to only push the grip.
5. You need to spend some time getting familiar with steering and evasive maneuvers. Your mind will keep telling you that you are on a bike. Train yourself to steer, not countersteer. Also, relax your grip on the handlebars. This will help eliminate fishtailing at high speed. Fishtailing is almost always a technique problem.
6. Don't try to put your foot down when you stop. Unless you have 50" legs, you probably can't reach the ground when sitting on a Spyder anyway.
7. Remember that the Spyder is wide and you have to compensate when you pull in next to a gasoline island or a toll plaza.
8. Drive the Spyder in a traffic lane positioned much like a car. Usually you will want to keep your body smack dab in the middle of the lane.
9. Turning long sweepers will be easy. Doing twisties will take some technique and a certain amount of muscle. Start practicing slowly, then learn how to lean your body to keep the inside wheel on the pavement. When you get comfortable with how the Spyder Rydes, then speed up. Don't rush the learning process.
10. Tight turns or decreasing radius turns on entrance and exit ramps are noticeably more difficult and require steady pressure.
11. Take a MSF Safety course. If you can't find one for 3 wheel motorcycles, then take one for two wheelers. The course will help a lot.


Tips:


Do not assume that since you've been riding motorcycles for 30 years, that you already know how to ride a Spyder. Dont find yourself in the ditch.
:agree: Take a MSF Safety Course, The course helped me, I took the course for the 2-wheelers, and the 3-wheelers. I got a separate card for riding the 3- wheelers, I am restricted, I can only ride the 3-wheeled motorcycles. That is fine with me. Check with your local Motor Vehicle Department's website. Deanna777
 
A 2008-2013 Spyder will idle at about 8 mph in first gear with its 1350 rpm idle speed.
People learning to Ryde a Spyder would benefit from doing this in a flat, empty parking lot for 20 to 30 minutes. Especially if they were two wheelers before.
 
:agree: With Joe, but can anybody explain why?

The body, particularly when you have access to just the leverage of your upper body, pushes much easier than it pulls. By keeping your grip deliberately relaxed its impossible to pull the tun and can only push it and so feels a lot easier and more natural when you adopt the optimum seating position for this technique.

Its about using the force of your weight to tuern instead of using your core to both support your upper body and try and pull the bike in the turn as well. :thumbup:
 
Mine must be the odd duck, I mean Spyder, it idles between 1350/1400 and won't move an inch an hour. Unless you tweak it then only about a foot per minute.

Silly me! I was referring to the SM...the only type we own. You are right, the SE won't budge without some throttle applied :opps:
 
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