I have had enough "spyder loving" from non 2013 owners

[SNOOPY]

:cus: Just checked my crotch temperature and it all the way up to 98.6:banghead:

You have a hot crotch dude :gay:

 

[SNOOPY]

Owners of 2013's have major problems and that is horrible. Would it be a good idea to create a new heading on Spyderlovers for 2013 issues? This would better organize issues for those that need help and us "lucky" 2012 and earlier people.

Just thinking...

Please quit saying 2013 owners like it is all of us, it seems to be "some" RT owners and maybe 2-3 ST owners.

 

[Magdave]

Please quit saying 2013 owners like it is all of us, it seems to be "some" RT owners and maybe 2-3 ST owners.

We will see if you are barking the same tune next summer if a fix doesn't come out :roflblack: You came to the party late :thumbup:

 

[MouthPiece]

​I agree with SNOOPY.

 

[poordom]

I have had enough "spyder loving" from non 2013 owners

Good evening All,

Well after being off the forum for a little while, I just couldn't stay away any longer.

I have read most of the recent complaints, and I fully sympathize with all that have had and that are still having problems with your Spyders, non standing of the year they were constructed.

I figured I would stay away since some people took offence to my constaint complaining about BRP, but then I figured that I had as much right being here than the others.

We, that have problems are happy and envious of the folks that enjoy and have no problems or complaints with your Spyders, you in turn should understand how frustrated and anoyed at the lack of response or positive feedback BRP is provides us.

Its a bloody joke, again I will sound like a **** disturber, honestly at this point I don't give a damn, if you are not with us and support our complaints then you are against us, and hopefully all the guys that are buying 2014 models have no problems with your machines, otherwise your complaints may also fall on deaf ears.

Now to all of you that are having any type of problems as minor or major they may be, we should stick together and prepare to comfront BRP with our issues.

My recommendation is that we prepare a list of names with addresses, and problems and look at the possibility of a CLASS ACTION. that is all BRP needs with a new 2014 in production.

For some reason the last time I started rocking the boat and got everyone anoyed at me, we had some action from Steve at BRP, this time lets regroup and go way up the latter, in my book it is obvious by now, that these people assume we are all yahoos with no gults to persue these issues any further.

Maybe by regrouping in this fashion, the 2014 line will either be produced with a much higher quality control or the line will fail under presure of the existing unsatisfied customers.

I think it is time to S**t or get off the pot, they are ignoring us, so lets make sure we do something to catch their attention, maybe start writting articles to your local new paper or favorite motorcycle magazine explaing in detail the problems that a great number of us are having, or catch tsome TV anchor people, or even look at boycotting or even better showing up at event prepared by BRP passing out list of problems like Spyders catching fire, etc.

We got to do what we got to do.

Who ever wants in, please send me your suggestions and comments, via private e-mail maybe we can get thing done.

Its time to go ahead with real action.

Enough of the BS and lack of action.

Dom

 

[flamingobabe]

I guess it's time for me to jump in here. I too have a 2013 ST that runs hot, not motor hot but components hot. My right foot got so hot I couldn't keep it on the floor boards. Really surprised there has not been more complaints about that on the board. I've had to do a lot of work to mine to get it where I wanted to ride it. I've owned every make, model and year Spyder to date and the 2013 ST is the hottest of them all followed by my 2008. I really do feel bad for the folks that are having heat issues, I know if I couldn't work on my own bike I would be one of those people.

I will say that BRP does care and just because a fix has not happened soon enough for most of you that are having issues they are working on it. They are just as unhappy as you all, more so I would think seeing this has to have hurt the bottomline. At one time all we talked about here was the DPS and then it was the throttle bodies and now it's the heat. The DPS and the throttle body were real problems but are a thing of the past now. I'm sure we loss owners and members over those issues and we will most likely see some leave the product and the board over the heat issues. I hate that too but it is what it is and all I can do is to try and put it into perspective and hope for a good outcome. I'm confident there will be a resolve to these issues.

Lamont...I appreciate that you posted this information...and I believe BRP wants to fix the problems plaguing some 2013's...but just doesn't know how.....I'm waiting and working with BRP...but I don't complain about the hot right foot, because I can move the foot...the only time I can't move it is stop and go traffic and you just suffer....if someone complains...then they don't wear the right shoes...etc...easier not to complain.....try to only complain about melting/ deteriorating parts and engine problems

" I've had to do a lot of work to mine to get it where I wanted to ride it. " What have you done to help create a better ride?

 

[coz]

if it was me

i'm not trying to be an ass, but if i had this problem, i would take a panel off of each side and ride it like that until a real solution is found. at least you'll still be riding.

 

[flamingobabe]

I ride my Spyder....if it quits while I'm riding ....I'll call someone to help

 

[SNOOPY]

We will see if you are barking the same tune next summer if a fix doesn't come out :roflblack: You came to the party late :thumbup:

I've riden my bike here when it was pretty hot out, it was warm but not unbearable. I think it's normal for what it is.

I don't think my bike is that hot.

If it gets too hot for me, I will try a fix.

Why should I expect BRP to do something about my comfort?

If there is a code thrown or a safety issue, I believe they will step in.

Otherwise I will continue to enjoy my ride.

If you hate the ride sell it and move on, quit your freaking bitching. Sheesh.

 

[SNOOPY]

I guess it's time for me to jump in here. I too have a 2013 ST that runs hot, not motor hot but components hot. My right foot got so hot I couldn't keep it on the floor boards. Really surprised there has not been more complaints about that on the board. I've had to do a lot of work to mine to get it where I wanted to ride it. I've owned every make, model and year Spyder to date and the 2013 ST is the hottest of them all followed by my 2008. I really do feel bad for the folks that are having heat issues, I know if I couldn't work on my own bike I would be one of those people.

I will say that BRP does care and just because a fix has not happened soon enough for most of you that are having issues they are working on it. They are just as unhappy as you all, more so I would think seeing this has to have hurt the bottomline. At one time all we talked about here was the DPS and then it was the throttle bodies and now it's the heat. The DPS and the throttle body were real problems but are a thing of the past now. I'm sure we loss owners and members over those issues and we will most likely see some leave the product and the board over the heat issues. I hate that too but it is what it is and all I can do is to try and put it into perspective and hope for a good outcome. I'm confident there will be a resolve to these issues.

Seems to be a crap shoot as far as which vehicle does what? My ST-S does fine, no real heat problem...though it does get a little warm at times. :thumbup:

 

[SNOOPY]

​I agree with SNOOPY.

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[Magdave]

I've riden my bike here when it was pretty hot out, it was warm but not unbearable. I think it's normal for what it is.

I don't think my bike is that hot.

If it gets too hot for me, I will try a fix.

Why should I expect BRP to do something about my comfort?

If there is a code thrown or a safety issue, I believe they will step in.

Otherwise I will continue to enjoy my ride.

If you hate the ride sell it and move on, quit your freaking bitching. Sheesh.

And if you have nothing to add you can move on and quit padding your post count you are never gonna catch Bob anyway Sheesh opcorn:

 

[Magdave]

I ride my Spyder....if it quits while I'm riding ....I'll call someone to help

FB what did BRP tell your dealer was OK to do on your bike like the insulation?

 

[SNOOPY]

And if you have nothing to add you can move on and quit padding your post count you are never gonna catch Bob anyway Sheesh opcorn:

Dang it, you caught on to me. LOL

 

[jlt31971]

Percent of 2013 with problems

​I wonder what percent of 2013 have problems vs. 2013 without problems. I have a 2013 ST-S with just over 5000 miles and have no problems at all, I did get a laser alignment done and it does drive better now but I don't think it was really a problem before. We hear a lot of the bad but how many are like me and have no issues.

 

[Magdave]

​I wonder what percent of 2013 have problems vs. 2013 without problems. I have a 2013 ST-S with just over 5000 miles and have no problems at all, I did get a laser alignment done and it does drive better now but I don't think it was really a problem before. We hear a lot of the bad but how many are like me and have no issues.

That is the million dollar question The recent poll on here showed a little over 100 2013 owners and 50% said they had moderate to severe heat issues. We don't even know how many 2013 owners use the site and what about the thousands that do not know about it. At least 1/2 the few owners I have met do not know about this site including my dealerships techs.:dontknow:

 

[Peoriafirefighter]

Well.... I have stayed off the board for a couple weeks, because I didn't have anything nice to say about FB's spyder...and I know how some of you like to hear NOTHING but 'good' about the spyders..... well... that is over. I'm PISSED. We did pay the price of admission.... and paid for up front seating.... but we will not see the show.... we are stuck behind a pole and can not see the stage.... and those that got good seating say we are at fault because we are not enjoying the program....some times it's best to just walk out of the show.... but at this point, if I have to push and upset some of the sensitive folks to get to see the show... well.. girth up.... BRP will need to make this right, Or you kind folks will NEVER hear the end of it. Flame suit on... take your best shot... but if ya shoot... be prepared for incoming.

Sure feel you an Flamingo Lady's pain. You are spot on with your answer. I'll keep both our Spyders for short distance riding but for the kind of touring that you and Flamibgo Lady do, I will be riding my Goldwing Trike. I want a bike I have confidence in and not worry about being stuck in Albuquerque again or anywhere else. I sure hope you get the response from BRP that you and the others deserve.

 

[SNOOPY]

That is the million dollar question The recent poll on here showed a little over 100 2013 owners and 50% said they had moderate to severe heat issues. We don't even know how many 2013 owners use the site and what about the thousands that do not know about it. At least 1/2 the few owners I have met do not know about this site including my dealerships techs.:dontknow:

Again, I'm a 2013 owner and didn't vote in the poll. :shocked:

Maybe it's flawed.

 

[otter28169]

always late, but worth the wait

I have been out of the loop for a bit, but here I am to save the day!!! Maybe not but I gotta get in on this. MagDave: I gotta take exception to a couple things you posted. I ride a 2012 RS-S and I am extremely upset about the goings on with the 2013 owners: I will not be "hating on you". I also ride Ski-Doo snowmobiles, the design is nothing like a sled even though the ride is similar. BRP is dealing with things the way they have in the past. In the late 1990's Ski-doo released a purple sled with a brand new rear suspension called the "ARC system". My brother traded in his sled and got one. Before it had 500 miles on it he had named the sled "Jumpin Jesus", and had stated several times " you can either stay on it through the bumps or ride it through the corners". Instead of fixing the sled, they made drastic changes to the next years models. Bombardier sits on the newest best stuff until they need it to boost sales. Hence the reason drastic model changes are made several years apart. The 2014s are sporting some of the stuff they had planned to save for the future, but the model you have has not been changed. Last, but not least, the run away toyota thing was greatly exaggerated in the media. It is amazing what a little influence can do in this country. One question, is the heat issue found in the 2013 RS models? If not, maybe there is something there worth looking into?

I did notice one thing: your picture in your signature is in poor taste for a 2103 owner. Just kidding, it is kinda ironic though.

 

[Magdave]

I have been out of the loop for a bit, but here I am to save the day!!! Maybe not but I gotta get in on this. MagDave: I gotta take exception to a couple things you posted. I ride a 2012 RS-S and I am extremely upset about the goings on with the 2013 owners: I will not be "hating on you". I also ride Ski-Doo snowmobiles, the design is nothing like a sled even though the ride is similar. BRP is dealing with things the way they have in the past. In the late 1990's Ski-doo released a purple sled with a brand new rear suspension called the "ARC system". My brother traded in his sled and got one. Before it had 500 miles on it he had named the sled "Jumpin Jesus", and had stated several times " you can either stay on it through the bumps or ride it through the corners". Instead of fixing the sled, they made drastic changes to the next years models. Bombardier sits on the newest best stuff until they need it to boost sales. Hence the reason drastic model changes are made several years apart. The 2014s are sporting some of the stuff they had planned to save for the future, but the model you have has not been changed. Last, but not least, the run away toyota thing was greatly exaggerated in the media. It is amazing what a little influence can do in this country. One question, is the heat issue found in the 2013 RS models? If not, maybe there is something there worth looking into?

Just sayin'............

The issues mainly are RT/ST related and the 2013 DOES have changes to it that were made for the 2014 The suspension is the 2014 suspension and several components were moved those are the ones that were melting. The movement of those may have decreased air flow. The bottom pans are different than the 2010-12 too.

The sig is SUPPOSED to be ironic. If anyone ever gets hurt by a fire I will pull it but luckily no one has so far.