2 wheel GL1800 Goldwing vs Spyder fun factor question?

[bug's zedi]

To me the Spyder much more fun than any two wheeler. While your trying to avoid sand, leaves, gravel ect....... we keep on truckin enjoying the view not looking for road hazards. You said it yourself that you took a spill, I don't see any fun factor in that. Anyone who tells you that you will lose the fun factor on a Spyder have no clue what they are talking about.


I'm not trying to be rude but, you seem to have this mis-understanding that the Spyder could not keep up with your Wing in the Twisties. I'm not sure where you got this information from, but it can't be further from the truth.

My advise to you is pull over if a Spyder is coming up behind your Wing or your Harley friends in the twisties because you most likely will be going to slow for them.

Whatever you decide to buy, thanks for checking out the Spyder. It's a wicked nice ride with even a nicer group of owners. :thumbup:

So as to leave no doubt about the type of Wing riding I am talking about, please see this:

Not me, but I have ridden with the guy taking the pictures and ride that exact road often. Oh, and he is also on a car tire. Being 2 up we would be slower, but we could keep his tail lights in veiw and not hold him up too much, Unless he really turned it up.

Ideally, I woud want to be able to keep up with these guys. If I can, I am sold.

 

[bug's zedi]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the Spyder is a rev happy engine. If you have the opportunity to rent a Spyder for a week end, up shift at 5K or above and down shift no lower than 4K especially if you rent the SE5 version. Keep the revs up and the power isn't too bad once you get used to it. Coming from a GL1800 you may initially think the Spyder is severely under powered. Cruise at 5K-6K rpm.

The rev aspect I think I will like. First bike we owned was a C10 Concours,and it sounds like the Spyder is about the same as far as rpm shifting goes. I still regularly hit the rev limiter on the wing when not paying attention and going purely off sound.

 

[arntufun]

So as to leave no doubt about the type of Wing riding I am talking about, please see this:

Not me, but I have ridden with the guy taking the pictures and ride that exact road often. Oh, and he is also on a car tire. Being 2 up we would be slower, but we could keep his tail lights in veiw and not hold him up too much, Unless he really turned it up.

Ideally, I woud want to be able to keep up with these guys. If I can, I am sold.

I was going to suggest to fellow Spyder owners that live near you to show you what the Spyder is made of in the twisties, but I quickly knew better. If you ride anywhere near like your friend in the video (even though it's slower than a Spyder in the twisties) you should keep your Wing.

Any "person" (putting it very lightly) that wants to pass cars on solid lines coming to a blind corner where they almost strike a car head on (3:50 mark), I want nowhere near my Spyder friends putting them in danger with that foolishness. That kind of riding might impress 19 year olds, but not me. :lecturef_smilie:

 

[ABQSpyder]

DUH

My comment was just one word. Stupid:yikes:

 

[bug's zedi]

I was going to suggest to fellow Spyder owners that live near you to show you what the Spyder is made of in the twisties, but I quickly knew better. If you ride anywhere near like your friend in the video (even though it's slower than a Spyder in the twisties) you should keep your Wing.

Any "person" (putting it very lightly) that wants to pass cars on solid lines coming to a blind corner where they almost strike a car head on (3:50 mark), I want nowhere near my Spyder friends putting them in danger with that foolishness. That kind of riding might impress 19 year olds, but not me. :lecturef_smilie:

But aside from your reservations about the passing, do you think a spyder would be able to keep up?

I will only pass when it is safe to do so. The decision on whether it is safe for me does not rely on what is painted on the road but on relative speeds, line of site road conditions etc. I have no problem passing on a double line in open country a car going 45 when I can see 1/4 mile ahead. On the other hand, there are some passing zones I will not pass on in that area because of overgrowth blocking the veiw.

 

[jthornton]

You ride like that and only wiped out once??? Your lucky for sure... you don't need a Spyder you need a Suzuki Hayabusa so you can get it over with as fast as possible.

JT

 

[rlynchtx]

Spyder Rental

Just one comment about the idea of renting one first. I think it took me about 200 miles before I felt comfortable with my RS (coming from big H-D two wheelers). The first few rides had me feeling the thing was big, sluggish and ungainly. After I learned how to ride it, I realized it was just me with those traits pps:. If you really want to see if it's right for you, a couple of days' rental would be much more enlightening than a couple hours' worth.

 

[gypsy_100]

I was going to suggest to fellow Spyder owners that live near you to show you what the Spyder is made of in the twisties, but I quickly knew better. If you ride anywhere near like your friend in the video (even though it's slower than a Spyder in the twisties) you should keep your Wing.

Any "person" (putting it very lightly) that wants to pass cars on solid lines coming to a blind corner where they almost strike a car head on (3:50 mark), I want nowhere near my Spyder friends putting them in danger with that foolishness. That kind of riding might impress 19 year olds, but not me. :lecturef_smilie:

You ride like that and only wiped out once??? Your lucky for sure... you don't need a Spyder you need a Suzuki Hayabusa so you can get it over with as fast as possible.

JT

Agree with both of the above, not to mention that the cameraman is riding (a 'Wing I presume) with a car tire on the back. For two-wheelers that is an absolute no-no and I wouldn't want to be near anyone doing so for fear they'd lose it and wipe me out in the process.

 

[bug's zedi]

You ride like that and only wiped out once??? Your lucky for sure... you don't need a Spyder you need a Suzuki Hayabusa so you can get it over with as fast as possible.

JT

Actually twice, Hit a deer with our first bike. This time we (wife and I) had just run about 400 miles of that type of road. We were at about 75% of what the guys in the video were doing. Ironicaly we wiped out coming up to a stoplight at 35MPH and hit some oil and down we went down. Besides my wife won't fit on the back of a busa.

I used the video to show as a comparison of what a Wing can do to compare it to the spyder. I do not want the limiting factor to be the machine, but my skill set. That way I will get the most enjoyment from the investment.

Starting at :53 is a better example of the way we typically ride. We are on the white bike right behind the camera at the 53 mark, and again in the rain at the end.

 

[boborgera]

You ride like that and only wiped out once??? Your lucky for sure... you don't need a Spyder you need a Suzuki Hayabusa so you can get it over with as fast as possible.

JT

:agree: Maybe I'm getting old , But my fun days are long past as far as riding hard. When i was much younger i proved i could lean into the turns and scrape pegs with the best of them, Broken bones were my trophy's.
Now i ride my ride and don't have to worry about whats around the next corner. And now i actually enjoy where I've been, And not how fast i got to where i was going...

 

[jthornton]

Actually twice, Hit a deer with our first bike. This time we (wife and I) had just run about 400 miles of that type of road. We were at about 75% of what the guys in the video were doing. Ironicaly we wiped out coming up to a stoplight at 35MPH and hit some oil and down we went down. Besides my wife won't fit on the back of a busa.

I used the video to show as a comparison of what a Wing can do to compare it to the spyder. I do not want the limiting factor to be the machine, but my skill set. That way I will get the most enjoyment from the investment.

Starting at :53 is a better example of the way we typically ride. We are on the white bike right behind the camera at the 53 mark, and again in the rain at the end.

I ride with a couple that has a RS and he rides like you do but with only one leg... the other one falls off from time to time. We have some spirited rides on the Ozark back roads with GL1800's, GL1800 Cali Side Car Trike and some Tri Glides and I'm either on the GL1800 or the RT-S. The only ones that can't or won't keep up is the Tri Glides. We don't drag pegs or push any limits. The GL1800 trike can keep up with any of them and he is 70 years old. Anyway the guy on the RS has done a few mods to his bike for HP and other secret things that I don't know about but he can do some amazing things on it that I'd never try on my RT.

MY BEST ADVICE is RIDE BEFORE YOU BUY!

JT

 

[Pennyrick]

But aside from your reservations about the passing, do you think a spyder would be able to keep up?

I will only pass when it is safe to do so. The decision on whether it is safe for me does not rely on what is painted on the road but on relative speeds, line of site road conditions etc. I have no problem passing on a double line in open country a car going 45 when I can see 1/4 mile ahead. On the other hand, there are some passing zones I will not pass on in that area because of overgrowth blocking the veiw.

The very fact that you used that video as an example in your post would cause me to cross you off my list of people I would want to ride with. Stick to your Gold Wing.... not because the Spyder will outrun it because it will. I think you would be more likely to take more risks because of the agility of the Spyder and there would be a couple of more bodies to scrape off the road.

 

[Farmbanker]

I ride my Spyder RT faster in the twisties than my Yamaha 700 Maxim sport bike. Mainly because I feel more confident. No pegs to grab, gravel doesn't create problems. Really aggressive sport bike riders can do better I'm sure. But when I lead I usually create a lot of space behind me in the twisties.


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[bug's zedi]

Agree with both of the above, not to mention that the cameraman is riding (a 'Wing I presume) with a car tire on the back. For two-wheelers that is an absolute no-no and I wouldn't want to be near anyone doing so for fear they'd lose it and wipe me out in the process.

Actually the best mod I have made on the wing was going to the darkside. I will not discuss the point further since this is not the place.

The very fact that you used that video as an example in your post would cause me to cross you off my list of people I would want to ride with. Stick to your Gold Wing.... not because the Spyder will outrun it because it will. I think you would be more likely to take more risks because of the agility of the Spyder and there would be a couple of more bodies to scrape off the road.

We prefer to ride alone, mostly, or with like minded and skilled riders. It is funny that people are saying that the spyder will outrun the wing, and then condemn the riding shown (aside from the pass). How do you know that a spyder will outperform the Wing in riding like this unless you have ridden one quicker than the ones in the video? After coming here to ask the simple question as to how a wing and a spyder would stack up performance wise in the twisties, I learned that the spyder is not the only thing that has a nanny:joke:

 

[jthornton]

I ride my Spyder RT faster in the twisties than my Yamaha 700 Maxim sport bike. Mainly because I feel more confident. No pegs to grab, gravel doesn't create problems. Really aggressive sport bike riders can do better I'm sure. But when I lead I usually create a lot of space behind me in the twisties.


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That's the best color Spyder for twisties...

JT

 

[Pirate looks at --]

Soon to be Roadkill

So as to leave no doubt about the type of Wing riding I am talking about, please see this:

Not me, but I have ridden with the guy taking the pictures and ride that exact road often. Oh, and he is also on a car tire. Being 2 up we would be slower, but we could keep his tail lights in veiw and not hold him up too much, Unless he really turned it up.

Ideally, I woud want to be able to keep up with these guys. If I can, I am sold.

some people never learn:lecturef_smilie:

 

[ARtraveler]

Watched the video. Way more fast than I would be willing to go on my :spyder2: on curves. You never know what is around those blind turns. Deer, other critters, rocks that fall into the road, a disabled vehicle, someone crossing the center line--oncoming, etc. etc. You need to give yourself some safety space. Also, the passing I saw was way beyond what I would consider doing. To each their own.

The wing is probably a better vehicle for that kind of riding--but there are even faster and sportier rigs.

 

[scott16119]

Its the small percentage of riders like the guy in the video that give us all a bad name, and the sad part is this is apparently a seasoned rider, not your normal thrill seeker type 18 yr old kid on his new crotch rocket that you would expect this adolescent behavior from. I'm all for letting it all hang out from time to time but don't put other drivers in danger to get your "thrill".

 

[maww12]

All I got to say is who cares which is faster.Man you must have a death wish or late for your judgement day meeting. My only hope is you don't take a innocent person or worse a whole family with you when you go. I think you belong in a circus act or somewhere where you are away from other people who care about life. Just my two cents!!!

 

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Sad

Looks like he took his video and went home. :roflblack: