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Muffler Deflector

BRPjunkie

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Picked up the deflector today and read instructions twice and got all tools ready for 24 minute install. Masking tape, duct tape, spit, all pretty useless in holding the template in place in 20 degree temps on cold steel. Finally got it in place and marked holes with a punch. You need to drill three holes in the muffler (twice) and pop rivet the brackets that hold the deflector on before you bolt the defelctor to the mounts. 7/64 drill bit, snapped on first hole. Since you have to make holes bigger, I went to my 1/8 bit. Snapped that one too. 9/64 bit finally got through, but you do need to be careful as there is very little space between outer and inner shell. Make sure your bits are sharp as this is pretty tough steel. Next step of making holes larger with 3/16 bit is easier, but be careful the bit doesn't wander. You need to clean the holes out with the 3/16 bit so the rivets will insert. There is very little clearance when inserted as they hit the inner shell. I then grabbed my pop rivet tool for what I thought would be the easy part. Unfortunately, my tool for aluminum gutter, broke when trying to fasten the first rivet. You need a steel pop rivet tool. Drove to my Dad's to get his and you need fingers of steel to break these rivets off as they seat against the inside of the pipe. Got all of them done and then tried to align screws. Fronts went in fine, but back hole had drifted just a bit. Fortunately, the back bracket rotates and the screw hole in the defelector is slotted so it all went together. 1 hour and 10 minute, including drive time.

Good news, it does cover the discoloring. Even better, the stock pipe no longer looks like they mounted the leg of a pygmy rhino on the bike. Worth the $60 which is the rest of the story. Dealer would not comp the deflector. Dealer says discoloring is not a defect and only burned off paint indicates high enough heat that would indicate failure of internals. They will watch and see if that happens, but mine is just a mild discoloring. BRP is probably setting us up. When the muffler does fail, they will blame it on us for nicking the internal wall when attaching the deflector.

Verdict: worth the price, just for the nicer look, but take your time, use sharp drill bits and a heavy duty pop rivet tool.
 
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Nice write up, Guinea Pig. Sounds like a real pain in the posterior. Still, looks quite nice, and does break up that huge expanse of metal can, besides hiding the flat spot on the paint. Surprised the spit didn't freeze and work for the template, though. Your garage must be warmer than mine. LOL
-Scotty
 
I visited my dealership today and showed them the photo of the muffler deflector kit (part #219 800 076). They called and ordered it for me and said it would be covered under warranty!

They also told me that there are replacement brake pads available, also covered under warranty! He said that BRP will only cover them if the mileage is still relatively low, 3,000 or less, and to only give them to loyal customers or to the ones that make a big fuss and won't stop complaining. I guess you could call it a "silent" recall? Since my bike is in storage, my dealership asked me to take a low res photo of my mileage and brakes and they would give me a set of pads.

I think it was already mentioned but if you ask your dealer for the rear axle cover, those are also being provided at no cost.
 
I visited my dealership today and showed them the photo of the muffler deflector kit (part #219 800 076). They called and ordered it for me and said it would be covered under warranty!

They also told me that there are replacement brake pads available, also covered under warranty! He said that BRP will only cover them if the mileage is still relatively low, 3,000 or less, and to only give them to loyal customers or to the ones that make a big fuss and won't stop complaining. I guess you could call it a "silent" recall? Since my bike is in storage, my dealership asked me to take a low res photo of my mileage and brakes and they would give me a set of pads.

I think it was already mentioned but if you ask your dealer for the rear axle cover, those are also being provided at no cost.


I got the axle nut covers at no cost too. They told me that the deflector was not "the fix" for defective mufflers, but an accent piece designed to mimic the Hindle look. They said that covering an actual muffler defect with a shield instead of fixing it, even though cheaper, wasn't how BRP warranty worked. They said my muffler was still under warranty and would be replaced if actually defective as indicated by a true burn through. In the end, I guess I can't really argue. If I was told I had a defective muffler and the "warranty" fix was a cover, I'd be upset.
 
Nice write up, Guinea Pig. Sounds like a real pain in the posterior. Still, looks quite nice, and does break up that huge expanse of metal can, besides hiding the flat spot on the paint. Surprised the spit didn't freeze and work for the template, though. Your garage must be warmer than mine. LOL
-Scotty

Had to do it today before we got the sub-zero weather. Once that happens, the only thing that will stick to the muffler is your tongue. If you tell your dealer you will pay for the deflector if he comps the installation, you will have the better part of the deal. In spite of the minor setbacks, all you need to do is see the stock muffler with and without the deflector and the $60 is well worth it. While most added the Hindle for the sound and slight power gain, its appearance was a big plus compared to the stock can. This is a way to fake the Hindle look at 10% of the cost. Yeah, the sound is still lacking, but it looks much better. They should sell (or give away) lots of these.
 
Why would you want to spend money on the stock muffler ? It robs 5 HP and it makes your Spyder sound like a Vespa scooter. Put your $60.00 into an after market muffler. You will love the sound.

John
 
Why would you want to spend money on the stock muffler ? It robs 5 HP and it makes your Spyder sound like a Vespa scooter. Put your $60.00 into an after market muffler. You will love the sound.

John

Vespa isn't bad since many have compared the stock can to a sewing machine. I am not a sound guy and have left stock mufflers on all my motorcycles and so far, I haven't had a need for 5 additional HP. Saving the big bucks for the Givi side cases.
 
I'm in agreement about less noise. When I want to ride across country and view the vast expanses of gorgeous scenery, the last thing I want is to sound like I am being followed by a herd of distracting buffalo. The Spyder is already louder than my BMWs. One other thing that troubles me greatly. The aftermarket mufflers all do away with the cat converter. From and environmental standpoint, I just can't justify the change in my mind. Why ride with ringing ears, and a guilty conscience to boot? I like the look of some of the modified systems, but I don't need or want the noise or the pollution.

BTW, the stock muffler robs the Spyder of nothing. It has what it is advertised to have. More is available with an aftermarket can (sometimes), but the same could be said of a load of nitromethane in the tank, or a different camshaft. That stuff is all extra.
-Scotty
 
Riding two up half the time means the passenger has to enjoy the ride and back there, the noise is a bit different than up front. We also use HJC Chatterbox and don't like to shout at each other. We save the shouting for at home.
 
I'm in agreement about less noise. When I want to ride across country and view the vast expanses of gorgeous scenery, the last thing I want is to sound like I am being followed by a herd of distracting buffalo. The Spyder is already louder than my BMWs. One other thing that troubles me greatly. The aftermarket mufflers all do away with the cat converter. From and environmental standpoint, I just can't justify the change in my mind. Why ride with ringing ears, and a guilty conscience to boot? I like the look of some of the modified systems, but I don't need or want the noise or the pollution.

BTW, the stock muffler robs the Spyder of nothing. It has what it is advertised to have. More is available with an aftermarket can (sometimes), but the same could be said of a load of nitromethane in the tank, or a different camshaft. That stuff is all extra.
-Scotty
+1 Wife works for EPA. Think globally, act locally.
 
Got the call that my muffler deflector kit was in. I picked it up and now all I need is a warm day to install it!

Thanks BRPjunkie for the install write up!
 
Got the call that my muffler deflector kit was in. I picked it up and now all I need is a warm day to install it!

Thanks BRPjunkie for the install write up!

Since it's -15 here in Michigan, I suggest that you lick the muffler to wet it to attach the template. :joke: When it does warm up and you get around to it, you will be very pleased with the result.
 
Got the call that my muffler deflector kit was in. I picked it up and now all I need is a warm day to install it!

Thanks BRPjunkie for the install write up!


Your wife is still letting you buy Spyder accessories? :D :popcorn:
 
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