New swaybar....that wasn't much fun

[bullant12]

It was just a matter of time to get the other test pYlot!:thumbup::clap:

 

[BajaRon]

At the risk of getting myself in trouble, this is my 1st female test pilot! I'm looking forward to it! :thumbup:

 

[Spydr in KS]

Lamont- how's it ryde?

 

[Five-O]

I have yet to find anything easy to work on on this Spyder. Everything is harder than a RS or RT. The bad news is all the 2013 share the same frame so the swaybar is pretty much going to me the same fight on all models. They have it fished in on top of the frame now and it's a real fight to get it out and to get it back in. Good thing I only had to do it once. I now have the RSS bar on my ST :thumbup:

Lamonster,

Did you switch out to the Fox shocks? Settings?

Compare the ride to the stock ST-S set up.

 

[kubie]

I think Lamonster put Elkas on at SF.....:dontknow::dontknow:

Good Ryding
Kubie

Lamonster,

Did you switch out to the Fox shocks? Settings?

Compare the ride to the stock ST-S set up.

 

[MikeinGA]

After reading that the ST handles poorly, think I'll keep my 2011 RS-S for few more years and a highbred. I have a BajaRon anti-sway bar and 2012 RT shocks set at #2 and it handle great and looks great with the black coil springs.

 

[Sny]

After reading that the ST handles poorly, think I'll keep my 2011 RS-S for few more years and a highbred. I have a BajaRon anti-sway bar and 2012 RT shocks set at #2 and it handle great and looks great with the black coil springs.

I'm not sure who said the ST handles poorly... Coming from my RS with 2012 shocks and Ron's swaybar, I feel like the STS can be thrown around a lot more aggressively than the older generation RS. It turns in with a much more positive feel.

I have both an RS and the STS so I've done a lot of side by side direct comparisons now.

I do have to say these things are picky about alignment and the steering position sensor has to be exact. Mine was off 0.1 degrees and it felt really strange in left hand sweepers but very positive going right at the same speeds. Reset the steering position sensor via buds and it's much better now. Strange.

My STS has the fox shocks and the BRP swaybar from the RSS suspension upgrade kit as well.

And I want more I always want more... It's a curse.

 

[Five-O]

I'm not sure who said the ST handles poorly... Coming from my RS with 2012 shocks and Ron's swaybar, I feel like the STS can be thrown around a lot more aggressively than the older generation RS. It turns in with a much more positive feel.

I have both an RS and the STS so I've done a lot of side by side direct comparisons now.

I do have to say these things are picky about alignment and the steering position sensor has to be exact. Mine was off 0.1 degrees and it felt really strange in left hand sweepers but very positive going right at the same speeds. Reset the steering position sensor via buds and it's much better now. Strange.

My STS has the fox shocks and the BRP swaybar from the RSS suspension upgrade kit as well.

And I want more I always want more... It's a curse.

Has anyone physically compared the stock ST sway bar with the upgrade bar from the RSS?

I'm wondering, that if there is not much difference in the size of the sway bars, that any noticeable
changes in handling are mostly from the Fox gas shocks.

 

[Lamonster]

Has anyone physically compared the stock ST sway bar with the upgrade bar from the RSS?

I'm wondering, that if there is not much difference in the size of the sway bars, that any noticeable
changes in handling are mostly from the Fox gas shocks.

2013 sway bars. The RS, ST, ST-S and ST-Ltd. have a 13.55 mm sway bar.

The 2013 RS-S has a 15.85 mm sway bar.

 

[Spydr in KS]

2013 sway bars. The RS, ST, ST-S and ST-Ltd. have a 13.55 mm sway bar.

The 2013 RS-S has a 15.85 mm sway bar.

Lamont, was the sway bar worth it? Did it improve the already awesome handling?

 

[Bob Denman]

2013 sway bars. The RS, ST, ST-S and ST-Ltd. have a 13.55 mm sway bar.

The 2013 RS-S has a 15.85 mm sway bar.

That's all that it takes to make a significant difference! :thumbup:

 

[Lamonster]

Lamont, was the sway bar worth it? Did it improve the already awesome handling?

To be honest I didn't feel a big change like you did on the 2012 and earlier. I'm hearing you can tell on the 2013 RT's. Now all I did was the swaybar and still have plans to do the shocks. I was waiting to see what Elka comes up with but I may go ahead and try the Fox for now.

 

[rabtech]

To be honest I didn't feel a big change like you did on the 2012 and earlier. I'm hearing you can tell on the 2013 RT's. Now all I did was the swaybar and still have plans to do the shocks. I was waiting to see what Elka comes up with but I may go ahead and try the Fox for now.

I have the fox shocks and swaybar on the way. Ill install them on my ST Wednesday night and let you know how much better it is. They just sent me a email confirming that have been shipped. Also installing a Yoshimura slip on.

 

[Spydr in KS]

To be honest I didn't feel a big change like you did on the 2012 and earlier. I'm hearing you can tell on the 2013 RT's. Now all I did was the swaybar and still have plans to do the shocks. I was waiting to see what Elka comes up with but I may go ahead and try the Fox for now.

Interesting, thanks for the update. Will be curious to see if the Fox shocks do make the difference others have reportedopcorn:

 

[Five-O]

Interesting, thanks for the update. Will be curious to see if the Fox shocks do make the difference others have reportedopcorn:

Given Lamonster's experience, It appears, that at least in the case of the ST, the significant improvement in ride control is coming from the adjustable gas charged shocks up front, whether they Fox or Elka.

 

[Spydr in KS]

Given Lamonster's experience, It appears, that at least in the case of the ST, the significant improvement in ride control is coming from the adjustable gas charged shocks up front, whether they Fox or Elka.

Looks cheaper to buy the sway bar and shock kit rather than the Fox shocks separately.

 

[Benggolf]

I have the fox shocks and swaybar on the way. Ill install them on my ST Wednesday night and let you know how much better it is. They just sent me a email confirming that have been shipped. Also installing a Yoshimura slip on.

Oh my...what ever happen to the fox shocks and swaybar installation rabtech?
Been looking forward to the results of this mod.

 

[SNOOPY]

Oh my...what ever happen to the fox shocks and swaybar installation rabtech?
Been looking forward to the results of this mod.

He had his bike for sale last I saw, don't recall if he ever said he installed the parts.

I put the Ronbar on my ST-S and it made a marked improvement.

 

[BajaRon]

Rabtech did do the BRP Shock/Sway bar upgrade. His experience was the same as others that have done this upgrade. The Fox shocks are a big improvement, the sway bar makes so little difference it's hard to tell.

He ended up putting one of my sway bars on and was thrilled with the overall improvement.

I thought he posted this somewhere here, but I couldn't find it.

 

[Benggolf]

Rabtech did do the BRP Shock/Sway bar upgrade. His experience was the same as others that have done this upgrade. The Fox shocks are a big improvement, the sway bar makes so little difference it's hard to tell.

He ended up putting one of my sway bars on and was thrilled with the overall improvement.

I thought he posted this somewhere here, but I couldn't find it.

Ahh, good to know. Am about to have the Fox shocks, RonBar and heim links installed tomorrow at the dealership and was wondering about the front sway bar that came with the Fox shocks. Now I will put the BRP swaybar up for sale. Any takers/offers?