The Young want the Spyder......

[Ga Blue Knight]

As a suggestion to BRP. Most of the cost in a vehicle other than the hardware is the development and startup costs being factored back into the product. I would suggest that BRP keep a basic RS SM model in their lineup every year. No modifications, no adjustable anything, the same Rotax motor, no fly by wire etc. just the the basic entry level Spyder. As the years go by it should cost less and less as compared to the latest and greatest models coming out. It would sought of be the Can Am version of the HD Sportster. As new folks buy these and then trade up in a few years there would be lots of used entry level bikes with low mileage available for new younger or economically challenged riders. It also would be a great way to increase the customer base in a segment that seems to be priced out of ownership. It's worked for HD for the last 60 years. It should work for Can Am as well.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

IS BRP LISTENING

As a suggestion to BRP. Most of the cost in a vehicle other than the hardware is the development and startup costs being factored back into the product. I would suggest that BRP keep a basic RS SM model in their lineup every year. No modifications, no adjustable anything, the same Rotax motor, no fly by wire etc. just the the basic entry level Spyder. As the years go by it should cost less and less as compared to the latest and greatest models coming out. It would sought of be the Can Am version of the HD Sportster. As new folks buy these and then trade up in a few years there would be lots of used entry level bikes with low mileage available for new younger or economically challenged riders. It also would be a great way to increase the customer base in a segment that seems to be priced out of ownership. It's worked for HD for the last 60 years. It should work for Can Am as well.

I think the above statements are a prime example of..." Do you think BRP hears/listens to what is said by Spyder owners ".????????...........Mike

 

[Kratos]

Revised Title...

I agree with what kratos originally said. In our area we also have just a different demographic of people. I know a large number of people that have made the choice to invest 12,000 to 18,000 in a razor or commander because the main thing they are looking for is a means to be able to get drunk on the weekend. They go out to one of our local ATV campgrounds with a cooler full of beer on the back and spend the whole day getting hammered. I'm not bashing this as I have a campsite and a 4 wheeler and tend to have a cold one from time to time, but I tried to make a decision initially between a spyder, jeep, or a Honda big red and came to the rational conclusion that something i could drive on the road everyday made a lot more sense. Like I said, not bashing it, but I know in my area the ability to consume alcohol plays a major role in where people this age invest their money.

This is true. I've owned 7 4 wheelers in the last 3 years. I had one of every brand. It's just the thing to do here. I sold all 7 of them and decided to get the spyder because I was tired of loading the quad, trailiering it 2-3 hours to an off road site, unloading, then riding, then spraying down all the mud, then loading it back on the trailer, then driving 2-3 hours back home. You had to use up an entire day for 1 ride. :shocked:

It suddenly hit me that the spyder was similar to riding a quad, but without all the hassle. All I had to do was get on it and ride. I could ride for the same amount of time I road on the quads, and still be back home for breakfast. None of the day is wasted towards the hobby. I don't have to take a day off of work just to ride. Why didn't I just buy one in 2008?

Spyderrx brings up a good point. The demographics here and what we want is probably why I get so many young people like myself who want the spyder. Here we just want to ride and have a good time. I don't need a crotch rocket, just something to enjoy, and other young people from my town feel this way. So maybe the point of this thread is highly limited to "my area". So I will edit my thread title into "The Young in my town want the Spyder."

 

[Ga Blue Knight]

I think the above statements are a prime example of..." Do you think BRP hears/listens to what is said by Spyder owners ".????????...........Mike

Well lets see if they do read these comments and what direction they want to go. I wouldn't jump the gun and say they will ignore it. From their point of view they want to earn $$$ by selling new stuff. But as HD learned years ago getting your product on the road new or used is a positive to capturing the market. At some point the big Japanese makers are going to wade in with a lower cost version of a front wheel trike and then the opportunity will be lost.

 

[Bob Denman]

But it can also be said that, "competition will improve the breed." :thumbup:

 

[Spyder777]

I agree with Kratos

I am 30 years old and have wanted the Spyder since it first came out. Price was the only thing stopping me.

 

[jerpinoy]

Young folks wanna have fun too. I'm not sure if BRP are watching and taking notes. Many members have point out many ideas, complaints, suggestions, these and that, etc., but I do not remember anybody from BRD (directly) any input coming from them. It will be nice to hear their (BRP) side what they think. If BRP are watching we need to know and tell us if they resolve any issue. I think this will build more trust between us.

 

[Kratos]

I am 30 years old and have wanted the Spyder since it first came out. Price was the only thing stopping me.

I knew I wasn't alone in this. :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

So; would you be willing to contact BRP with this information? :dontknow:
YOu might just get something started... :shocked: :thumbup:

 

[Kratos]

So; would you be willing to contact BRP with this information? :dontknow:
YOu might just get something started... :shocked: :thumbup:

I've bought several BRP products over the years (atv's, ski's). I know them a little, and how they think. They've never been a company to target the "budget" market. They have no desire for that. They've always been known to target enthusiasts who don't mind spending for innovation (a higher end market).

That said, I didn't start this thread in mind for anything to be changed in the price points, I just wanted to state that the "young" do desire the spyder, and that it's just not an "elderly" targeted toy. It's just out of what the young wants to spend.

 

[yoliejr]

imh 2c

as a wallflower of this site for cpl years, I'm compelled to chime in b/c i simply LOVE the roadster and appreciate this thread. I've had scooters, rode 2-wheelers and love to do research on repairing my machines. Of course, I can find great info here but where I live dealers are at least an hr away. The non-visibility of service & support (in case I need it) is the very thing that freezes me a lil. Am I overreacting?ray:

I'm still young (in my mind anyway) and I would like to see BRP have some kind of consumer seminar, class, etc. Heck I would love a local class on my future spYder bowdown senior members of this site) besides being referred the dealer. Simply, I wanna get my hands dirty too....

 

[Bob Denman]

So where are you in New York?

 

[5PYD3R]

I was 23 when I purchased my Spyder brand new! Will be 25 next month and have no intentions of ever not having a Spyder in my garage!

 

[yoliejr]

So where are you in New York?

in Bronx...

 

[Ga Blue Knight]

But it can also be said that, "competition will improve the breed." :thumbup:

Oh I agree 100%! What I meant was that BRP could lose the opportunity to capture the youth market with an affordable Spyder. HD, while attracting lots of young riders in the 1960's and 1970's has dropped almost all of its entry level bikes except for the Sportster and even that is now getting pretty pricey. they now have a predominantly aging market with no Buell or truly entry level offering.

 

[docdoru]

Do you want the young crowd to embraced the Spyder? Start the sport competitions:
http://www.canamoffroad.com/Files/en-US/Pdf/4x4-Racer-Support-Program-Form-en-US_2012-08-01.pdf
On this very forum there are many riders waiting for this for the last 4 1/2 years...

 

[boborgera]

in Bronx...

''THE'' Bronx!
Bronx is the only Borough in NYC, That has ''THE'' in front of its name, When i lived in Brooklyn i was reminded about that all the time, from Friends that lived in ''The'' Bronx. :roflblack:

 

[NancysToy]

Oh I agree 100%! What I meant was that BRP could lose the opportunity to capture the youth market with an affordable Spyder. HD, while attracting lots of young riders in the 1960's and 1970's has dropped almost all of its entry level bikes except for the Sportster and even that is now getting pretty pricey. they now have a predominantly aging market with no Buell or truly entry level offering.

BMW suffers from much the same situation.

 

[elixermixer]

BMW suffers from much the same situation.

As far as bikes go they took a huge step in addressing that issue and released the most unBMW BMW in a long time. They ditched all the nitchy things and said why remake the wheel? They set out to capture a younger market and take what they referred to as "conquest" customers. They set out to go racing with the boys in the superbike world on the street and in the track. They chose not to copy any funky Italian vtwin or v4 but rather go after the proven inline 4 market and do it better than anyone else. They built one of the most impressive 1000cc inline 4 superbikes on the market and the Japanese 4 (not being discriminatory) are still playing catch up. They took it a step further and put their $ where their mouth is and went racing and have done well. Each customer that buys a BMW superbike is one less customer they bought something else in a market they previously were not a part of. I'd say BMW has tried hard to be less of a touring only image and has focused big money on a racing market including full world superbike factory team.

 

[NancysToy]

As far as bikes go they took a huge step in addressing that issue and released the most unBMW BMW in a long time. They ditched all the nitchy things and said why remake the wheel? They set out to capture a younger market and take what they referred to as "conquest" customers. They set out to go racing with the boys in the superbike world on the street and in the track. They chose not to copy any funky Italian vtwin or v4 but rather go after the proven inline 4 market and do it better than anyone else. They built one of the most impressive 1000cc inline 4 superbikes on the market and the Japanese 4 (not being discriminatory) are still playing catch up. They took it a step further and put their $ where their mouth is and went racing and have done well. Each customer that buys a BMW superbike is one less customer they bought something else in a market they previously were not a part of. I'd say BMW has tried hard to be less of a touring only image and has focused big money on a racing market including full world superbike factory team.

They are certainly making progress. Their prices still hurt the struggling youngsters, but they are gaining some young folks, not the touring crowd of old, of course.