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the most dangerous motorcycle on the road

I will say walking on the side and backing it down a trailer ramp without a hand brake can be a problem but far from dangerous.
 
That is what reverse is for... EXTREME unloading.

I just had a moment where I pictured Lamont on spyder flying off a trailer backwards with Roscoe Peecole train laughing or whatever it was he did and someone saying "Da** you spyder boys"
 
The ISCI handbrake system is one of the best engineered devices I've ever seen for a bike, and it is not hard to install on the RS - certainly not $600 worth of work. I have installed two of these -one on my RS and one on a friend's RT.

For me, the issue is manual vs semi-auto shifter - with a manual clutch, I'm always reaching for the hand brake - just like my other bikes. So installing the ISCI kit is a must - for me. With no clutch lever, I'm fine with a "foot only" system.

If your RS is a manual, and your Hardly is as well, you may have the same issue. Many two wheel riders use the front (hand) brake far more than the rear (foot) brake - which is why so many new rides have "linked brakes".

All I can say is you need to set you bike up in a way that's right for you.
 
When this thread hit 3 pages I fnally decided to see what all the talk was about. I thought the remark that someone's touring group made Spyders ride in the back because of their stopping ability was pretty amusing. A two wheel group we ride with makes us ride in back (all trikes) because they can't see around us not because they are afraid of running us over when we exhibit our superior stopping power. :roflblack:
 
brakes

Well this ole timer, in colo.grew up in the (50'S) a ride'n Harley's & Indian's, to Hi-School 14 miles on a gravel road, & my grand-dad, dis-connected the front brake, OR I probably wouldn't be here a add'n my 2-cent's, & still I got a couple harley's, (55+ yrs ride'n time) & I never think about the front brake!!!, & it's like Scotty say's old habits never die!!! (p.s. I do forget ta down- shift them 2-wheeler's some-times !!:yikes: after a spin on the spyder!!:shocked:
 
I think the Spyders stopping power is great. I actually have to remember not to brake too hard when my husband is followng my his Triumph because he needs more room to stop than I do. I don't think I have ever missed the brake when trying to stop in an emergency or any other time.

I love my Spyder.
 
canner said:
I have a 2009 can am rs se5 and dearly love the bike. I also own a Harley Electraglide. They both have their place on the road. However the Can Am has a horrific brake problem, that being finding the brake pedal especilly in an emergency situation. I have install floor boards and the hinged brake entension. This has improved the braking situation by at least 50 percent. However fun it is to ride, the braking situation, in my opinion, makes it the most unsafe bike on the road. I won't sell it because it is too much fun to ride. The dealer wants $1700 to install a hand brake which would probably make it one of the safer bikes out there. I just wish BRP would not be so stubborn and install the handbrake on the new models. How many people have died because of this. I know of one.

I know this has probably made a lot of people mad, however, one should not have to ride wondering where the brake pedal is.
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I have a few ideas in the works for a cheaper hand braking system. I will not go into detail other than to say the one I am trying to build will be able to effectively stop the bike in a panic situation as well as the foot brake. This will require some engineering modification to overcome the pressure difference between squeezing with the hand and pressing the brake pedal with your foot. The technology is there. It just needs to be put together. Hang in there!
My ultimate goal is to allow soldiers to ride even with loss of both legs and even one arm. This will also require a better power steering system or assist to the existing one.
 
You can install the ISCI system yourself. It's terrific, and works a treat. The last one I bought was $1100, and took me about 2 hours to install.

Put one on my GS SM5, and my friend's RT SM5 - never needed one on my RT SE5s... perhaps it's a walking and chewing gum thing....
 
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