Gasoline vapors?

[mrfats]

What I originally thought was oil leaking underneath my new 2011 RT-S SE5 is gasoline vapors dripping from the rubber tube below the engine. I see a couple drops and thats it. Is this some kind of pop off? I notice it happens about 80 percent of the time when I park in my garage. I'm guessing it occurs more often but I can only see it when I get off the Spyder. Is this normal?

 

[NancysToy]

It is the atmospheric vent from your emissions canister.

 

[boborgera]

What I originally thought was oil leaking underneath my new 2011 RT-S SE5 is gasoline vapors dripping from the rubber tube below the engine. I see a couple drops and thats it. Is this some kind of pop off? I notice it happens about 80 percent of the time when I park in my garage. I'm guessing it occurs more often but I can only see it when I get off the Spyder. Is this normal?

:dontknow:
BRP Can't seem [or care to] Be able to fix that problem, So they'll say its normal.
I bet if any car manufacturers vehicles filled up garages with gas fumes they'll find a fix fast.

 

[spyder11]

Will I also am having gas fumes from my rt-se5 2011 but I haven't seen any thing under it so I called my dealer and the tech told me it was from me over filling it and that I will have to replace the vapor can which cost 70 and I told him I watch very closely when I fill my spyder up and I said how do you know when you have over filled it becuase i don't let mine come out over the top and once my nozzle clicks that is it. He said he would take a look at it . I also have asked again about the brakes and now brp will replace the brakes but not pay for the labor. It seems to me that brp doesn't want to cover anything on these bikes and I am really getting tired of hearing it isn't under warrinty so I am giving them one more chance to get my spyder running with no noise with brakes and with the belt and if they can't than I am proceeding with my attorney general and than if i have to go futher I am . I wish i would have done my homework on these machines before I bought one because i would have never have . I know there are some out there that have no problems but i must have gotten one that was made on a friday.

 

[Y Rider]

This is a design flaw and BRP is just dancing around the issue. I have owned a multitude of motorized vehicles and this is the only one that fills my garage with gas fumes. This Spyder RT has a 6.6 gallon tank that can only be filled to a little over 5 gallon and even if you do that the evap canister gets saturated with gas causing my garage to smell like gas for the next several days. The only way I have been able to keep the problem from happening is to only fill the tank to about 3/4 full. This means refuelling every 100 miles.

 

[boborgera]

Will I also am having gas fumes from my rt-se5 2011 but I haven't seen any thing under it so I called my dealer and the tech told me it was from me over filling it and that I will have to replace the vapor can which cost 70 and I told him I watch very closely when I fill my spyder up and I said how do you know when you have over filled it becuase i don't let mine come out over the top and once my nozzle clicks that is it. He said he would take a look at it . I also have asked again about the brakes and now brp will replace the brakes but not pay for the labor. It seems to me that brp doesn't want to cover anything on these bikes and I am really getting tired of hearing it isn't under warrinty so I am giving them one more chance to get my spyder running with no noise with brakes and with the belt and if they can't than I am proceeding with my attorney general and than if i have to go futher I am . I wish i would have done my homework on these machines before I bought one because i would have never have . I know there are some out there that have no problems but i must have gotten one that was made on a friday.

Read the Federal Emission Warranty, In your manual.
You are covered, [evaporator canister]

 

[Questions]

Atmospheric Vent??

Isn't the idea of EVAP to prevent fuel vapors from entering the atmosphere? If it vents to the atmoshere why even waste the space by putting a canister, purge valve, and related hoses? Now there is a overflow hose from the canister in the event the charcol canister becomes overfilled with raw liquid gas, but the should only happen during system failure and the overflow is there to protect the engine from damage caused by lines being full of fluid that were designed to carry vapors. Yes BRP has a problem they don't want to fix and have convinced many it is normal. If the canister is saturated its done. And many of us have Spyders parked in our garages that need repairs to the EVAP system. My wife's spyder is not in our garage any longer. It's at the dealer waiting for BRP to tell them what to do. And we won't take it back until it's fixed.

 

[NancysToy]

Isn't the idea of EVAP to prevent fuel vapors from entering the atmosphere? If it vents to the atmoshere why even waste the space by putting a canister, purge valve, and related hoses? Now there is a overflow hose from the canister in the event the charcol canister becomes overfilled with raw liquid gas, but the should only happen during system failure and the overflow is there to protect the engine from damage caused by lines being full of fluid that were designed to carry vapors. Yes BRP has a problem they don't want to fix and have convinced many it is normal. If the canister is saturated its done. And many of us have Spyders parked in our garages that need repairs to the EVAP system. My wife's spyder is not in our garage any longer. It's at the dealer waiting for BRP to tell them what to do. And we won't take it back until it's fixed.

The evap system vents to the intake system when the Spyder is running and meets the programmed criteria (sufficient engine vacuum?). At other times it vents to the atmosphere. The canister is supposed to absorb the gas fumes, allowing nothing but clean air to reach the atmosphere. If the canister becomes saturated with fuel, the charcoal doesn't absorb the fumes, and they escape though the vent. Ths shouldn't happen in a well designed system, to my way of thinking, but the Spyder hasn't enough height available above the fuel tank for a good atmospheric loop, so it is a difficult design problem. Not sure how the Spyders have passed the EPA emissions tests. Maybe they just test at the tailpipe?

 

[Questions]

"The evap system vents to the intake system when the Spyder is running and meets the programmed criteria (sufficient engine vacuum?). At other times it vents to the atmosphere. The canister is supposed to absorb the gas fumes, allowing nothing but clean air to reach the atmosphere. If the canister becomes saturated with fuel, the charcoal doesn't absorb the fumes, and they escape though the vent. Ths shouldn't happen in a well designed system, to my way of thinking, but the Spyder hasn't enough height available above the fuel tank for a good atmospheric loop, so it is a difficult design problem. Not sure how the Spyders have passed the EPA emissions tests. Maybe they just test at the tailpipe?"

Now I can agree more with what your saying. One other thought I forgot to mention is the the overfill line is also the only source of fresh air to be pulled into the intake along with vapors from the canister when the purge valve opens. Bottom line is the system shouldn't have been approved if it allows that amount of vapor to escape. I actually fount the approval documents for California's Air Resource Board. Feel sorry for the person that signed off on this. Bescause if BRP doesn't do the right thing for my wife's Spyder those documents will be part of my lawsuit against BRP. I don't know if you noticed that BRP has been quietly working on this. Not all the part #'s match on the fuel system between the 2010 and 2011 RT's
Dfferent gas tanks for one. Which I feel is the root cause for allowing fuel down to the canister. Needs a different vent point. You think BRP wants to pay for thousands of gas tanks for Spyder's already on the road?