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Do you wear a helmet? Your choice?

Helmet use

Its your choice. I have two, a full face and an open face helmet. I ALWAYS wear mine. I always wear my seat belt, too, when driving my car. To me its just common sense.
 
Accidents will make you a believer

I got ran off of a bicycle trail into to a bunch of rocks while riding my mountain bike. (Yes I know this is about motorcycle helmets.) I broke my right elbow really badly and now have a plate and scars for proof. My wife made me promise her that I would wear a helmet while biking so thanks to her, I had it on. :shemademe_smilie:The helmet was badly broken but my noggin was ok. From the damage showing on the helmet, I may not have survived or at least would have been more badly injured. This was all at a speed about 12-13 mph. The rest of my body took a severe beating and I still am awed by the photos. I decided not to post any photos since they are pretty gross. If it would help, I can post a couple.

Bottom line is that even though the Spyder is less likely to tip over, a helmet will help protect you only if worn. I will be wearing mine for sure. You really are wearing the helmet for your family as much as yourself.
 
It's the law here, but not in many places where I ride. I wear a half helmet (w/muffs whe cold), or FF, IF I am forced to ride in bad weather.

Wearing one, or not should be my choice - phone & texting while operating machinery doesn't need a law, it requires an IQ over 10.
 
Helmets

Any person who chooses to operate a motorcycle without a helmet would be required to carry life and disability insurance that will cover the medical costs of caring for a a brain injured person for as long as that person will survive. I am sure an insurance company actuary could come up with the relevant premium for such coverage.

This solution does have a flaw of course. The police would have to set up motorcycle checkpoints to make sure helmet less riders have the appropriate coverage.:banghead:

Maybe it is just easier to obey helmet laws. Less intrusive:thumbup:
:agree::agree:
 
And, what about cell phone usage when driving? Should you have a freedom of choice there to kill others on the road?

A few years past there was a fire marshall in my neck of the woods who was texting and ran into a bicyclist and killed her. It was strange, no fines, no loss of license. Some laws need to be stricter and applied equally.

TEXTING isn't the same issue! That is a safety issue like drunken driving. A person not wearing a helmet isn't going to cause someone to hit me head on. That is comparing apples to oranges here. The only safety issue with not wearing a helmet is to the person who decides not to wear one! I also agree about the liability insurance. Others shouldn't have to pay for someone elses choice.
 
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TEXTING isn't the same issue! That is a safety issue like drunken driving. A person not wearing a helmet isn't going to cause someone to hit me head on. That is comparing apples to oranges here. The only safety issue with not wearing a helmet is to the person who decides not to wear one! I also agree about the liability insurance. Others shouldn't have to pay for someone elses choice.

Agreed!!

I never ride without my helmet!! I think it's common sense to wear one, but to each his/her own I say.

Agreed!!
 
I thought there was a forum rule about political discussions? This should be closed, because it is not a simple discussion about freedom. It's a political discussion about me and everyone else that either pays taxes or insurance premiums funding other peoples' poor choices. nojoke I don't care if you wear your helmet or seatbelt, I just don't want to pay for your care once you've been injured and exhausted the limits of your insurance.
 
I also have two. The weather determines which one I wear. However, I always wear one, not only because it's the law, I wouldn't be caught dead without one. I too have been in the fire rescue field and have seen what happens when safety PPE isn't worn.
 
I always wear a helmet and the reason is very simple. What I would do if I knew when I left home that I was going to crash before I got back. The next question is how do I know that I'm not going to crash. I believe everyone should have the freedom to make their own choice, however, whether I agree with their choice or not.

I also agree with others that the question of cell phones and/or texting is not the same. There is absolutely no question in my mind that such actions should be against the law.

Cotton
 
I thought there was a forum rule about political discussions? This should be closed... QUOTE]
Interesting... :D
As motorcyclists, (or Spyderists! :D); pretty near every discussion is going to fall somewhere near "freedom" and how it is either being threatened :gaah: or being fought for... :thumbup:
If I were to try and read the administrator's mind, (Horrible thought! :shocked:), I would bet more than a nickel that they were looking to avoid the whole Red/Blue whatever fistfights that can occur when my guy is better than sliced bread and mother's milk and your guy is just a :cus: :opps:

We DO have a lot of fun with helmets and shift-points though... :thumbup:
 
I worked in a rehab for brain injurys...needless to say we had people that were in motorcyle accidents. So frustrating seeing this guy...knowing what was going on yet unable to move any body parts and only voicing grunts. I also wiped out on my bike and recalling my helmet bouncing off the payment. Looking at it later made me so glad I had it on.
 
Any person who chooses to operate a motorcycle without a helmet would be required to carry life and disability insurance that will cover the medical costs of caring for a a brain injured person for as long as that person will survive. I am sure an insurance company actuary could come up with the relevant premium for such coverage.

This solution does have a flaw of course. The police would have to set up motorcycle checkpoints to make sure helmet less riders have the appropriate coverage.:banghead:

Maybe it is just easier to obey helmet laws. Less intrusive:thumbup:

:agree:I always worn my helmet! To me it's a matter of common sense. But, I believe it's YOUR choice as long as you foot the bill. We should not have to pay for your choice when you decide to go without a helmet.
 
YA JUST WHAT WE NEED MORE LAWS THAT WILL KEEP US ALL MUCH SAFER.....WHERE DOES IT STOP?????????????
 
I believe it should be a freedom of choice.... I choose to wear a helmet and a seat belt. A seat belt saved my life when I was only 18 years old and my car did a nose flip on a downtown Indianapolis street about 12 1/2 years ago.
 
I have three and the wife has two. We may still end up with another pair. Being retired military and the wife being a reservist I suspect any accident without a helmet on would result in problems with Tricare. Being a former police officer I have seen enough accidents to be a believer in safety gear.

OTOH where does all of the safety rules end? Crash cages with air bags? Or motorcycles, etc. declared unsafe for highway use. :dontknow:

Texting while driving is a whole different subject and IMO just as bad as driving drunk or worse.
 
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