TricFenderz on RT?

[reggystan]

Thanks for the comments, feedback noted. At first when we designed it I wanted it to be more of an accent light. When other motorist see a motorcycle they assume skinny 2 wheels and often not realizing hey there is 2 wheels out there and unusual since Spyders are the first of its kind to be mass produced. We tested them for quite some time and even brought them to our local municipalities and showed them. Their response was, "you can definitely see" this when your driving down the road. Till this day I have honestly not had any police pull me over for any of the lighting we have on our Spyders. We all know red and blue are a no no but questionable as long as it does not impersonate a police officer. Exactly what they said when we were in Daytona a few weeks ago when asked. The LED's used on the fender is not as bright as all the other LED lighting we have. They are spaced out further and smaller LED's. These were meant to be accent lighting just like accent lighting most used under the bike or just about anywhere one chooses to.

As for the fender lights. we will have a dual color in a few weeks. The first 10 LED facing the rear will be in red and the front ones would be in white or amber.

I hope this clears up some questions or issues. If you have any questions please feel free to PM or contact me. Thank you again to all those who gave their feedback. RT

 

[DragonLorD]

What are you talking about? :dontknow:

The amber Brightsides we sell for THE FRONT of a Spyder will ALWAYS BE ON THE FRONT OF THE SPYDER ONCE INSTALLED.

Likewise for the RT rear red units. They will always be on the back of the RT.

The law for side marker lights has to do with where they are mounted on the vehicle. Forward of the mid line needs to white or amber, past the mid line needs to be red.

Even if you were to turn around and go against traffic, these lights would still be shinning ont the front or back of your vehicle.

This code has nothing to do with the direction you are driving, like backing up. No matter the direction you are driving the light code is written in relationship to your vehicle, not the direction you are driving.

So even going against traffic your Day Runners or Brightsides still would be out the front of your vehicle for Dayrunners, or froward of the mid line for the amber Brightsides and not shinning rearward or on the back of your Spyder.

This law was written to allow other motorists to distinguish which is the front of the vehicle and which is the back, and is this way so it is the same look everytime.

Also, white lights shinning rearward can be very distracting if not somewhat blinding to other motorist at night who are behind you.

I don't make the SAE DOT codes, I just know them very well, as I design lights to meet these codes everyday. :thumbup:

MM

that is exactly what is confusing me - that you know those regulation very well but saying once one thing and second the other thing.
now i see nowhere myself saying that i am going to change direction or riding wrong way or so. all i understand from your explanation that neither white or amber can face or begin facing to the rear, you explain that crystal clear exactly as i did when said that once you just slightly turn a handlebar - NOT TURNING ARROUND!, your brightsides begin to be visible from behind you, which means they are lighting backwards - so they are illegal right then. no mather how you call them the only way your brightsides will be street legal if you mount them on unmovable permanent side of vehicle which is and stays that way. mounted on the fender sides is very nice but still breaking a law once turning because that fact makes them to begin facing rear - that is exactly what you are saying, right? :clap:

 

[Magic Man]

that is exactly what is confusing me - that you know those regulation very well but saying once one thing and second the other thing.
now i see nowhere myself saying that i am going to change direction or riding wrong way or so. all i understand from your explanation that neither white or amber can face or begin facing to the rear, you explain that crystal clear exactly as i did when said that once you just slightly turn a handlebar - NOT TURNING ARROUND!, your brightsides begin to be visible from behind you, which means they are lighting backwards - so they are illegal right then. no mather how you call them the only way your brightsides will be street legal if you mount them on unmovable permanent side of vehicle which is and stays that way. mounted on the fender sides is very nice but still breaking a law once turning because that fact makes them to begin facing rear - that is exactly what you are saying, right? :clap:

NO NO NO!

You seem to want to keep confusing direction of travel with relationship to how they are mounted to the vehicle.

If a light is made to be mounted on the side of a vehicle, and is in front of the forward mid line of said vehicle, it has to be white or amber regardless which driection you point your vehicle in realtionship to traffic.

This is just the reason this law is written this way, so when you are sitting broad side to traffic, the traffic can distinguish which is the front of that vehicle sitting broadside and which is the rear.

They will see a amber reflector or light on one end, and a red reflector or light on the other. This will tell them which is the front and which is the back.

Now, if that said vehicle has a running light or brake light mounted on it in realtionshid to said vehicle that shines towards the rear of that vehicle, (no matter which direction that vehicle is traveling in realtionship to traffic) said light must be red.

The code is written only in realtionship to the vehicle the lights are mounted on.

Yes if you turn broadside you will have amber light shinning toward traffic, but that light is still shinning out the side of your vehicle.

There are many times that an amber or white light might be shinning toward traffic. Such as, on coming traffic, a person going the wrong way, or even a vehicle sitting broadside because of say a break down.

Idea is when you see an amber or white light you know which direction that vehicle is pointing.

White or amber lights pointing at you is to mean that vehicle is coming at you or at least pointing your way.

The only way amber is to be facing toward the rear of a vehicle is if it is used as a flashing turn signal. That is amber only, white can't be used as a rear turn signal no matter what.

White can only be used as a back up light on the rear of a vehicle. Again the reason is that when you see a white light it means that vehicle is coming at you, as in backing up.

I don't write the laws that's just how they are written.

If you put a light mounted on your vehicle that is white or amber that faces towards the rear of that vehicle you are just giving the law a reason to pull you over, and in my State it will not pass the State safety inspection.

MM

 

[Bob Denman]

Forgetting about what is and isn't legal for just a second here...
Do the LEDS on the center of the fenders that wrap all the way to the mudflap throw light that gets into the eyes of the operator of the Spyder?:shocked:

 

[Magic Man]

I would say ask SpyderWolf as he has them and has run them for a bit?

MM

 

[LDFIREWORKS]

ALL I CAN SAY IS DAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::gaah::gaah::gaah::gaah::gaah::gaah:

 

[sinkhole]

I thought about installing these, but had concerns regarding how much of a distraction they would be to me while driving at night... especially if you installed white. Oh well, earlier posts introduced the legal issue, and that settles that. :lecturef_smilie:

 

[reggystan]

Forgetting about what is and isn't legal for just a second here...
Do the LEDS on the center of the fenders that wrap all the way to the mudflap throw light that gets into the eyes of the operator of the Spyder?:shocked:

I think this thread is getting a bit overloaded. Simple questions that can be rectified pretty easily.

If any CUSTOMERs is curious about the light, email me and I wil send out a set of fender light for free anywhere in the USA! Free to the first 5 people who contact me. I will even pay for the shipping! If you think they are distracting or don't like them then just take them off. Simple as
That! Curiosity answered. Specify a color, white or amber.

Honestly I don't think anyone of our vendors is trying to make products that are illegal or endanger any of us while riding. Many of us add and modify things because it is what we like. Our lights are no different, we made them because I wanted to be more visible and safer on the road. It is not for everybody and I understand . So take me up on the offer and try it for yourself.

 

[1551retired]

I think this thread is getting a bit overloaded. Simple questions that can be rectified pretty easily.

If any CUSTOMERs is curious about the light, email me and I wil send out a set of fender light for free anywhere in the USA! Free to the first 5 people who contact me. I will even pay for the shipping! If you think they are distracting or don't like them then just take them off. Simple as
That! Curiosity answered. Specify a color, white or amber.

Honestly I don't think anyone of our vendors is trying to make products that are illegal or endanger any of us while riding. Many of us add and modify things because it is what we like. Our lights are no different, we made them because I wanted to be more visible and safer on the road. It is not for everybody and I understand . So take me up on the offer and try it for yourself.

I'm take you up on your offer and just sent you an PM.

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: What'd I do?? I didn't mean to cost anybody business or money; I just was wondering a bit too much out loud... :shemademe_smilie: SORRY!

 

[bullant12]

I think this thread is getting a bit overloaded. Simple questions that can be rectified pretty easily.

If any CUSTOMERs is curious about the light, email me and I wil send out a set of fender light for free anywhere in the USA! Free to the first 5 people who contact me. I will even pay for the shipping! If you think they are distracting or don't like them then just take them off. Simple as
That! Curiosity answered. Specify a color, white or amber.

Honestly I don't think anyone of our vendors is trying to make products that are illegal or endanger any of us while riding. Many of us add and modify things because it is what we like. Our lights are no different, we made them because I wanted to be more visible and safer on the road. It is not for everybody and I understand . So take me up on the offer and try it for yourself.

Just PM'ed you on your offer. Hope I get it. Thanks!!:clap::2excited:

 

[reggystan]

:shocked: What'd I do?? I didn't mean to cost anybody business or money; I just was wondering a bit too much out loud... :shemademe_smilie: SORRY!

This is all good, no worries. I've gotten more positive emails out of this so no worries. I want you all to be happy and put this to rest!

Thank you.
RT

 

[pjp623]

Forgetting about what is and isn't legal for just a second here...
Do the LEDS on the center of the fenders that wrap all the way to the mudflap throw light that gets into the eyes of the operator of the Spyder?:shocked:

I have them, love them :clap: they are very subtle and not a bit distracting to the driver and after spending a lot of time looking at them from behind, I can't see how they would be distracting to anyone following me.

 

[clueless]

I think this thread is getting a bit overloaded. Simple questions that can be rectified pretty easily.

If any CUSTOMERs is curious about the light, email me and I wil send out a set of fender light for free anywhere in the USA! Free to the first 5 people who contact me. I will even pay for the shipping! If you think they are distracting or don't like them then just take them off. Simple as
That! Curiosity answered. Specify a color, white or amber.

Honestly I don't think anyone of our vendors is trying to make products that are illegal or endanger any of us while riding. Many of us add and modify things because it is what we like. Our lights are no different, we made them because I wanted to be more visible and safer on the road. It is not for everybody and I understand . So take me up on the offer and try it for yourself.

sent you a PM :thumbup:

 

[spyder77]

I have them, love them :clap: they are very subtle and not a bit distracting to the driver and after spending a lot of time looking at them from behind, I can't see how they would be distracting to anyone following me.

What's distracting is this thread!!!!!!!!!!:yikes:

 

[pjp623]

:agree: Must have been a pretty slow day at the office!

 

[bruiser]

geeez, what a mess. I understood perfectly. By the way, Dragon Lord needs to see what the laws are in Ireland instead of worrying about our laws. I still run my Gloryders in blue and haven't had a problem. I DO WANT some brightsides and mud flap lights though. Still thinking about the fender lights.

 

[SpyderGirl]

My husband and I both have the white TricFenderz and have no problems with distraction at night. What has been said is correct though, you're not supposed to have any rear facing lights in anything but red, however I know that the cops around here seem okay with motorcycles with rear facing ambers as those are somethings used for safety running lights.

I guess if I ever had problems with my TricFenderz I'd change them out for the new model with the rear facing red LEDs.

As for will they fit an RT, the front fenders are the same on the RT as the RS.

I love all my TricLED lights. They are top quality. :2thumbs: to Reggy.

 

[DragonLorD]

geeez, what a mess. I understood perfectly. By the way, Dragon Lord needs to see what the laws are in Ireland instead of worrying about our laws. I still run my Gloryders in blue and haven't had a problem. I DO WANT some brightsides and mud flap lights though. Still thinking about the fender lights.

oooh lord, finaly someone with slightly more open eyes than others but still, it took you forever to relize that i am from Ireland, however no one got a point till now. this thread started with a guy who decided to get those strip lights and all he wanted us to help him with was to pick what color. I didn't start politics and law quotes here.
good things is that this guy got them absolutely free to the door and some more quick ones :congrats:

 

[taggtr]

Thanks for the comments, feedback noted. At first when we designed it I wanted it to be more of an accent light. When other motorist see a motorcycle they assume skinny 2 wheels and often not realizing hey there is 2 wheels out there and unusual since Spyders are the first of its kind to be mass produced. We tested them for quite some time and even brought them to our local municipalities and showed them. Their response was, "you can definitely see" this when your driving down the road. Till this day I have honestly not had any police pull me over for any of the lighting we have on our Spyders. We all know red and blue are a no no but questionable as long as it does not impersonate a police officer. Exactly what they said when we were in Daytona a few weeks ago when asked. The LED's used on the fender is not as bright as all the other LED lighting we have. They are spaced out further and smaller LED's. These were meant to be accent lighting just like accent lighting most used under the bike or just about anywhere one chooses to.



As for the fender lights. we will have a dual color in a few weeks. The first 10 LED facing the rear will be in red and the front ones would be in white or amber.

I hope this clears up some questions or issues. If you have any questions please feel free to PM or contact me. Thank you again to all those who gave their feedback. RT

Cool, I'm all for the dual color! Wait for that one to come out and I'll send in my order!