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vibration solution

capt.jim

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I wanted to share some pic's of my new "Dynamic Spring-loaded Belt Tensioner". I could not get rid of the vibration after lowering my belt tension, i could move it around the rpm range, but it was always there unless i really overtightened the belt, also had a lot of vibration at roll-on. All is good now.
 

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yes, it stopped all the vibration from the belt, which i still have at 180 lbs static tension, and my friends was set really loose at his last service, drove him crazy, installed one on his, he said it was smooth as ever. I do have a very small amount of vibration around 70mph or 5000rpm's, but it's always been there, but i think it is just normal 60 degree v-twin vibes, barely noticeable.
 
I have never had any vibration -- related to belt tension or otherwise. How can you be certain it relates to belt tension?

I wanted to share some pic's of my new "Dynamic Spring-loaded Belt Tensioner". I could not get rid of the vibration after lowering my belt tension, i could move it around the rpm range, but it was always there unless i really overtightened the belt, also had a lot of vibration at roll-on. All is good now.
 
Good idea-- I'd be interested in knowing where you got it, etc....

I noticed the vibration certainly changes rpm range depending on belt tension. I had mine pretty loose and really liked it as it was really smooth in 5th gear at 93 mph. Last time I was in the shop the tech re-did my belt tension as he didn't like how loose I had it--- and it 'lowered' that smooth spot to around 88 mph---:gaah:

Any concerns about outer belt wear using this unit? Was it made for another bike and you just modified it to fit?

:thumbup:
 
Can you please tell me where you got the "Dynamic Spring-loaded Belt Tensioner". I have had a vibration in my Spyder RT and really wonder if this may help if not cure it. I am very interested in getting one f these.
Also...was it very hard to get installed or pretty simple?

Thanks for any info you will share.....waiting to hear where to find these.

Duane
 
I have never had any vibration -- related to belt tension or otherwise. How can you be certain it relates to belt tension?

The 'vibration' we are referring to is most noticeable in your footpegs.... at certain RPM ranges. Some may not notice it or be bothered by it, but it's there.
 
Well, I guess I am the exception . . . I now have just short of 15,000 miles on my 09 SE5. For the first 8,000 or so I only had the pegs. I now have the SFB floorboards. I am either numb or something -- as I cannot ever say that I felt vibrations worth mentioning. Also, I virtually never rev mine over 5,000 RPM except for a few miles here and there on interstates as I live and mostly drive on local roads and low grade highways.

The 'vibration' we are referring to is most noticeable in your footpegs.... at certain RPM ranges. Some may not notice it or be bothered by it, but it's there.
 
The 'vibration' we are referring to is most noticeable in your footpegs.... at certain RPM ranges. Some may not notice it or be bothered by it, but it's there.

I get the vibration too. Changing the tension on the belt will just move the vibes to another RPM.
But lets face it, it's a bike,
If it bothers some people maybe they should buy a Buick.:D
 
I get the vibration too. Changing the tension on the belt will just move the vibes to another RPM.
But lets face it, it's a bike,
If it bothers some people maybe they should buy a Buick.:D

Buick------Whats that?? Just kidding... Interesting device though, I to would also be interested in what you used for parts and where you purchased them... Looks like a professional mount for sure..

X-Joe
 
Well, I guess I am the exception . . . I now have just short of 15,000 miles on my 09 SE5. For the first 8,000 or so I only had the pegs. I now have the SFB floorboards. I am either numb or something -- as I cannot ever say that I felt vibrations worth mentioning. Also, I virtually never rev mine over 5,000 RPM except for a few miles here and there on interstates as I live and mostly drive on local roads and low grade highways.


It may be your low RPM riding that is not allowing you to feel the vibes we're talking about, but you might feel another form of vibration if you lug the engine--- but that's a totally different feeling. This engine really likes the higher RPMs.. I don't even consider using 5th gear until I hit 70 mph as it lowers the RPMs too much. It's happy spot is somewhere around 7800 rpms......
 
I have expressed this here before . . . I don't know the science behind the statement that you and some others make that the Spyder "likes" higher RPMs. I never lug my Spyder and I never use the higher RPMs. I shift at or between 3500 and 5000 RPM (except on hills where I add 500-1000) and it never lugs and never vibrates. If it vibrates ONLY at those higher RPMs, perhaps that is a sign of a problem or that "it" really does not like the higher RPMs!

It may be your low RPM riding that is not allowing you to feel the vibes we're talking about, but you might feel another form of vibration if you lug the engine--- but that's a totally different feeling. This engine really likes the higher RPMs.. I don't even consider using 5th gear until I hit 70 mph as it lowers the RPMs too much. It's happy spot is somewhere around 7800 rpms......
 
I have expressed this here before . . . I don't know the science behind the statement that you and some others make that the Spyder "likes" higher RPMs. I never lug my Spyder and I never use the higher RPMs. I shift at or between 3500 and 5000 RPM (except on hills where I add 500-1000) and it never lugs and never vibrates. If it vibrates ONLY at those higher RPMs, perhaps that is a sign of a problem or that "it" really does not like the higher RPMs!


OK..

X-Joe
 
I have expressed this here before . . . I don't know the science behind the statement that you and some others make that the Spyder "likes" higher RPMs. I never lug my Spyder and I never use the higher RPMs. I shift at or between 3500 and 5000 RPM (except on hills where I add 500-1000) and it never lugs and never vibrates. If it vibrates ONLY at those higher RPMs, perhaps that is a sign of a problem or that "it" really does not like the higher RPMs!

Hard to explain, but it's not that it vibrates at 'higher' rpms -- it only does it in a very narrow RPM range--- and is directly related to belt tension.

Other than 'seat of the pants' results that many of us can attest to, there have been Dyno's done showing where these engines like to peak.

The sales brochures also lists:

Power 106 hp (79 kW @ 8500 RPM)
Torque 77 lb.-ft. (104.3 Nm @ 6250 RPM)

If you're happy running in the lower RPMs -- great-- you won't do any damage unless you lug the engine-- but you are missing out on the great performance this engine has to offer in the higher rpm powerband.

Running in the twisties (the dragon comes to mind) you really need the extra power of higher rpms at your fingertips-- for both power uphill and engine braking down.:thumbup:
 
I wanted to share some pic's of my new "Dynamic Spring-loaded Belt Tensioner". I could not get rid of the vibration after lowering my belt tension, i could move it around the rpm range, but it was always there unless i really overtightened the belt, also had a lot of vibration at roll-on. All is good now.
Looks great. :thumbup: I've been wanting to do this for a while for running a smaller rear sprocket and taking up the slack with a tentsioner like they use on the Buells.

Can you please tell me where you got the "Dynamic Spring-loaded Belt Tensioner". I have had a vibration in my Spyder RT and really wonder if this may help if not cure it. I am very interested in getting one f these.
Also...was it very hard to get installed or pretty simple?

Thanks for any info you will share.....waiting to hear where to find these.

Duane
Not sure where he got his but here's the ones I was looking at.
http://www.icemc.com/product_-_tensioners
 
Thanks for the interest, the bracket i designed myself from a cardboard template, made it from 3/16" steel, waterjet cut and powdercoated, the tensioner is made by "Fenner Drives", model RT3000, Automotive quality, self lubricating and 0-42 lbs. super adjustable, which most are not. Fenner also sells one like the "ICE" Tensioner, which was a light duty and not as many features, it was cheaper in price and would work fine I'm sure, as there is only about 10lbs. of tension, but not as adjustable. The technician said the RT3000 was far superior if i wanted the best. As most aftermarket tensioners are frame mounted, there was no room, but luckily there was just enough room on the swingarm and the tensioner now follows the arc of travel, worked out even better. Fenner also sells the pulleys. Almost all of the pulley manufactures use the same 6203 bearings. I used a 3" x 1 3/8" composite flat belt idler pulley for 3 months, then went to a 2" x 1.5" for 2 months. I wanted to see how it would hold up compared to the 3", as it would be spinning 50% faster, and the spyder does have very high belt speed with that big sprocket. The 2" does make a very slight turbocharger sounding whistle i notice decelerating from around 40mph to 0, but i've ran it 3 hours straight at 85mph, no heat or anything, still like new. The 2" looks better asthetically. I haven't looked at the RT's swingarm to see if it would fit, if it's close, it might, the bracket is made somewhat adjustable so it can be lined up perfectly with the belt before it's tightened. Belts definately have a tight spot, idling with the rear tire off the ground, you can see the pulley jump a little when it hits the tight spot. It wasn't in my plans, but i got talked into patenting the bracket and making 25 sets, you never know.
 
It may be your low RPM riding that is not allowing you to feel the vibes we're talking about, but you might feel another form of vibration if you lug the engine--- but that's a totally different feeling. This engine really likes the higher RPMs.. I don't even consider using 5th gear until I hit 70 mph as it lowers the RPMs too much. It's happy spot is somewhere around 7800 rpms......

I rather doubt that Bill's lugging it. I frequently cruise myself at RPM's as low as 3000 in 4th or 5th and trust me, it's smoooooth! The engineers chose the 990 because of it's good high end power as well as low end torque and driveability. Watch this promo video from early on when the Spyder was introduced. Start watching around the 2 minute mark where he talks about the power band. :f_spider:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MFs_GSOSPo[/ame]
 
Thanks for the interest, the bracket i designed myself from a cardboard template, made it from 3/16" steel, waterjet cut and powdercoated, the tensioner is made by "Fenner Drives", model RT3000, Automotive quality, self lubricating and 0-42 lbs. super adjustable, which most are not. Fenner also sells one like the "ICE" Tensioner, which was a light duty and not as many features, it was cheaper in price and would work fine I'm sure, as there is only about 10lbs. of tension, but not as adjustable. The technician said the RT3000 was far superior if i wanted the best. As most aftermarket tensioners are frame mounted, there was no room, but luckily there was just enough room on the swingarm and the tensioner now follows the arc of travel, worked out even better. Fenner also sells the pulleys. Almost all of the pulley manufactures use the same 6203 bearings. I used a 3" x 1 3/8" composite flat belt idler pulley for 3 months, then went to a 2" x 1.5" for 2 months. I wanted to see how it would hold up compared to the 3", as it would be spinning 50% faster, and the spyder does have very high belt speed with that big sprocket. The 2" does make a very slight turbocharger sounding whistle i notice decelerating from around 40mph to 0, but i've ran it 3 hours straight at 85mph, no heat or anything, still like new. The 2" looks better asthetically. I haven't looked at the RT's swingarm to see if it would fit, if it's close, it might, the bracket is made somewhat adjustable so it can be lined up perfectly with the belt before it's tightened. Belts definately have a tight spot, idling with the rear tire off the ground, you can see the pulley jump a little when it hits the tight spot. It wasn't in my plans, but i got talked into patenting the bracket and making 25 sets, you never know.

Let me know if you decide to sell any of those brackets you made---- I'd like to buy a set....:thumbup:
 
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