LUBRICANT OIL

[BillGargan]

I have seen recommendations on the boards regarding the type of oil to use -- aside from the stock BRP oil.

One recommendation was to use Mobil 1 Race 4T. So, I went to the Mobil 1 website and I found the comment below. So, which do you experts recommend. Is the V-Twin version OK to use in a Spyder?

Myth:
Motorcycles can't benefit from synthetic oil.

Reality:
Motorcycles are an ideal application for synthetic oil.
Exxon Mobil offers two fully synthetic motor oils for motorcycles:


* Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 is recommended for on-road, high-performance, 4-cycle sport bikes, which are typically liquid cooled. It can also be used in air-cooled engines calling for a 10W-40 oil.

* Mobil 1 V-Twin is a 20W-50 oil recommended for 4-cycle V-twin engines, particularly those that are air cooled and tend to run hotter than other types of engines.

 

[Sarge707]

4T for me~! Have used it Several years in a Rotax supercharged jet ski engines from 185-255 HP.

 

[freebob]

Re Oil

I have seen recommendations on the boards regarding the type of oil to use -- aside from the stock BRP oil.

One recommendation was to use Mobil 1 Race 4T. So, I went to the Mobil 1 website and I found the comment below. So, which do you experts recommend. Is the V-Twin version OK to use in a Spyder?

Myth:
Motorcycles can't benefit from synthetic oil.

Reality:
Motorcycles are an ideal application for synthetic oil.
Exxon Mobil offers two fully synthetic motor oils for motorcycles:

Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 is all i use does great for me...freebob:spyder2:
* Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 is recommended for on-road, high-performance, 4-cycle sport bikes, which are typically liquid cooled. It can also be used in air-cooled engines calling for a 10W-40 oil.

* Mobil 1 V-Twin is a 20W-50 oil recommended for 4-cycle V-twin engines, particularly those that are air cooled and tend to run hotter than other types of engines.

Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 is all I would use has done great for me..freebob:spyder2:

 

[boborgera]

I have seen recommendations on the boards regarding the type of oil to use -- aside from the stock BRP oil.

One recommendation was to use Mobil 1 Race 4T. So, I went to the Mobil 1 website and I found the comment below. So, which do you experts recommend. Is the V-Twin version OK to use in a Spyder?

Myth:
Motorcycles can't benefit from synthetic oil.

Reality:
Motorcycles are an ideal application for synthetic oil.
Exxon Mobil offers two fully synthetic motor oils for motorcycles:


* Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 is recommended for on-road, high-performance, 4-cycle sport bikes, which are typically liquid cooled. It can also be used in air-cooled engines calling for a 10W-40 oil.

* Mobil 1 V-Twin is a 20W-50 oil recommended for 4-cycle V-twin engines, particularly those that are air cooled and tend to run hotter than other types of engines.

Both will work in the summer, But in the winter the 20w-50 will be too heavy for the Spyder. Air cool engines run hot, But i think they'll even be hard cranking with that weight oil. Besides the Spyder's engine is 4-cycle sport bike liquid cooled engine.

 

[WackyDan]

4T here and on my second change with it already. Actually using less oil with the 4T than before with the BRP.

 

[Erags]

was looking at changing to AMSOIL and today I was looking that what oil to get. The Operator's Guide says to uses 5W40 synthetic oil with API serivce SL,SJ,SH, or SG classification. What I found was
AMSOIL European 100% Synthetic 5W-40 Motor Oil API SM/CF


or

AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke® PowerSports Synthetic Motor Oil is recommended for four-stroke engines and transmissions on two- or four-stroke powered applications. It is an all climate/all season oil that replaces 0W-30, 0W-40, 5W-30, 10W-30 and 10W-40 oils for ATVs, UTVs, snowmobiles and other power sports equipment. Manufacturers include Polaris®, Honda®, Yamaha®, Ski-Doo®, Can-Am® (Bombardier®), Suzuki®, Kawasaki® and Arctic Cat®.

• API SL/CF, SJ, SH, SG
• JASO MA/MA2
• ISO-L-EMA2


so which do you think is the better one to use?
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[j45p3r]

For Amsoil I've been running this: http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mcf.aspx

 

[ataDude]

The first one is rated SM and will be bad for your clutch... so it's out.

The second one is SL rated (less than SM) and is the one for you. Also it's JASO rated for motorcycles.

was looking at changing to AMSOIL and today I was looking that what oil to get. The Operator's Guide says to uses 5W40 synthetic oil with API serivce SL,SJ,SH, or SG classification. What I found was
AMSOIL European 100% Synthetic 5W-40 Motor Oil API SM/CF


or

AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke® PowerSports Synthetic Motor Oil is recommended for four-stroke engines and transmissions on two- or four-stroke powered applications. It is an all climate/all season oil that replaces 0W-30, 0W-40, 5W-30, 10W-30 and 10W-40 oils for ATVs, UTVs, snowmobiles and other power sports equipment. Manufacturers include Polaris®, Honda®, Yamaha®, Ski-Doo®, Can-Am® (Bombardier®), Suzuki®, Kawasaki® and Arctic Cat®.

• API SL/CF, SJ, SH, SG
• JASO MA/MA2
• ISO-L-EMA2


so which do you think is the better one to use?
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[pierrelogic]

For Amsoil I've been running this: http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mcf.aspx

I just put this in this weekend and after running about 300 miles on this liquid gold I'm running a bar cooler than before. Amsoil is well known in the snowmobile world and appears to be the perfect fit for the Spyder.

Nothing else will ever go in my Spyder. nojoke

 

[Sopher]

As far as lubricants go, i _hear_ that KY and Astroglide work well.

um, er, oh. Wrong forum.:roflblack:

Oh, you mean oil. Scented or not? (pst, still wrong forum...)

Um. Nevermind.
:roflblack:













Just go with BRP or Amsoil.









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[Roadkill]

AMSOIL

>Just go with BRP or Amsoil.<

+No. Go with BRP or the properly-spec'd AMSOIL.

MCF 10W40 is what you need.

Ride on.
Roadkill

 

[Raptor]

As far as lubricants go, i _hear_ that KY and Astroglide work well.

um, er, oh. Wrong forum.:roflblack:

Oh, you mean oil. Scented or not? (pst, still wrong forum...)

Um. Nevermind.
:roflblack:



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Dude, yer killin me!! :roflblack: Anyway, I've been told that SEs are much more sensitive to oil than their SM5 bretheren. So for now I am sticking with BRP. It's working well, so until further notice, BRP it is...

 

[BajaRon]

Full Synthetic is the only way to go. If your Spyder gets a little too hot...no problem with full synthetic. It can take a lot of heat.

It is interesting that the original spec from BRP for our Spyder was Full Synthetic oil...Wonder what changed? It wasn't the Spyder.

If you need to go a little long on an oil change, no problem, full synthetic lasts up to twice as long in a motorcycle.

Most oils don't have to deal with transmission gears. The pressure exerted in a transmission is much greater than what standard oils really care to deal with. That is why they make "Gear Lube" which is specifically suited to that environment.

But in motorcycles the engine oil is also the Gear Lube. Again, Full Synthetic is way better at dealing with this extra load.

Blended sounds really neat and is a great marketing approach. But what they really mean is they are throwing a lot of cheap oil and some really good oil into the same can. We spend a lot of money on our Spyders. Why not fork over a few more bucks and give our ride the best oil we can?

Your Spyder will shift better, last longer, run cooler, stay cleaner and just work better on Full Synthetic.

I use Ams Oil but there are other very good full synthetic oils out there for less than what you'll pay for the 'blended' BRP oil (which BRP does not make). The only thing BRP about BRP oil is the container that you throw away.

But to each his own. I just think people should be fully informed of the facts before they pay good stuff price for 1/2 good stuff oil......Not that I'm opinionated about this or anything.

 

[Raptor]

Full Synthetic is the only way to go. If your Spyder gets a little too hot...no problem with full synthetic. It can take a lot of heat.

It is interesting that the original spec from BRP for our Spyder was Full Synthetic oil...Wonder what changed? It wasn't the Spyder.

If you need to go a little long on an oil change, no problem, full synthetic lasts up to twice as long in a motorcycle.

Most oils don't have to deal with transmission gears. The pressure exerted in a transmission is much greater than what standard oils really care to deal with. That is why they make "Gear Lube" which is specifically suited to that environment.

But in motorcycles the engine oil is also the Gear Lube. Again, Full Synthetic is way better at dealing with this extra load.

Blended sounds really neat and is a great marketing approach. But what they really mean is they are throwing a lot of cheap oil and some really good oil into the same can. We spend a lot of money on our Spyders. Why not fork over a few more bucks and give our ride the best oil we can?

Your Spyder will shift better, last longer, run cooler, stay cleaner and just work better on Full Synthetic.

I use Ams Oil but there are other very good full synthetic oils out there for less than what you'll pay for the 'blended' BRP oil (which BRP does not make). The only thing BRP about BRP oil is the container that you throw away.

But to each his own. I just think people should be fully informed of the facts before they pay good stuff price for 1/2 good stuff oil......Not that I'm opinionated about this or anything.

So Baja - What about the whole SE5 thing? I want to go full synthetic but I don't want to do anything that will put my Spyder at risk. What have you heard about this point?

 

[NancysToy]

So Baja - What about the whole SE5 thing? I want to go full synthetic but I don't want to do anything that will put my Spyder at risk. What have you heard about this point?

As long as the oil meets the BRP spec...which includes full synthetic oil, you should be just fine.

 

[SpyderWolf]

I was at Advance Auto Parts the other week and saw Mobil1 4T for the first time. I was happy to see they started stocking it, and that is what I am planning on using next oil change. I have never seen Amsoil anywhere except at the motorcycle rallys I have been to, and didn't bother talking to them at the time. Perhaps I should next time.

 

[teacherbob]

Royal Purple Max Cycle- 10w40.

 

[M2Wild]

4T for me~! Have used it Several years in a Rotax supercharged jet ski engines from 185-255 HP.

I seem to remember they specifically said not to use syn oil in the ones equipped with superchargers. Something about the syn version is too slippery for the SC clutch.

 

[BajaRon]

So Baja - What about the whole SE5 thing? I want to go full synthetic but I don't want to do anything that will put my Spyder at risk. What have you heard about this point?

Just what Nancy's Toy said except that I would add you'll be better than fine. You're running the same gear set in the SE that we have in the SM. The only difference is the electric selonoids that do the clutching/shifting for you. Full synthetic oil is just fine.

A number of SE owners are and have been using Full Synthetic with great results.

 

[BajaRon]

I seem to remember they specifically said not to use syn oil in the ones equipped with superchargers. Something about the syn version is too slippery for the SC clutch.

I would have to check but I believe this 'Warning' was issued before anyone made a Full Synthetic oil specifically for wet clutch applications.