I have a problem, When someone comes over to me and asked, That they would like to get a Spyder, Would i recommend it to them. But after talking to them for a few minutes i realize that they don't know the difference between an open end wrench and a beach ball . I honestly can not recommend it. Knowing how many times they'll have bring back for minor and not so minor issues I never bring mine back i do it all myself [except the recall] I Have enough tools to put the Hindenburg back together. And i have the time. What do you tell people that ask??
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Saluda
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Still love my Spyder, not sorry for buying one. On hold as far as giving a positive reccomendation until the resolution in my mind of a few on going issues. I feel BRP has been a little slow or in some cases very slow to get certain issues resolved.
Just my $ .02.
I am not a first time buyer.
Just my $ .02.
I am not a first time buyer.
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BajaRon
Well-known member
I think one of the reasons the Spyder has a higher "Issue" level than some other machines is that it has a much higher "First Time Buyer" ratio than most anything else out there.
When you've grown up with motorcycles you realize they are a little different than the current turn key automobiles. People that are not familiar with the additional care and maintenance required for a motorcycle are put off.
It used to be if you couldn't fix your motorcycle yourself you probabaly got stuck more than you liked. These days if it takes more than turning the key people are in trouble.
Motorcycles have come a long way and the Spyder may not be as overall bullet proof as the best machines out there. But my guess is about 90% of the "Issue" occurance could be resolved if the owner just had a bit of mechanical skill.
groundeffect
Registered User
Hi guys. Interesting question, since I find there are different levels of ryders will mechanical skills out there.
Just curious about the types of issues you have fixed on your own? Do you mean things like foam in the fuse (to keep the relays in), having the parking brake stuck (and having to readjust it), etc..., or something more extensive?
Thank you.
Just curious about the types of issues you have fixed on your own? Do you mean things like foam in the fuse (to keep the relays in), having the parking brake stuck (and having to readjust it), etc..., or something more extensive?
Thank you.
BajaRon
Well-known member
So far I've been able to fix everything except for the dead power steering uint. The dealer put a new one in at 7,600 miles and I've been good ever since at 15K.
I've adjusted the parking brake, modified the crankcase breather to keep oil out of the air cleaner, replaced the air filter because the stock one did not seal, and that's it. Everything else has been mods I chose to make.
I did do the canister-ectomy but not because I was having problems. Just because I wanted to do it.
I've owned Hondas, Suzukies, Kawasakies and BSA (that's just the street bikes). The Spyder has been as or more reliable than anything else I've ever owned.
I know others have had a different experience but this has been mine. I ride a lot with Lamont who puts tons of miles on his Spyder and his has been every bit as reliable as mine. So, being 2 for 2 gives me a positive feeling about the Spyder.
The only potential issue that would make me hesitate is the ongoing steering issue. I tell people about it, and let them know BRP is working on it, but it would be nice if BRP would make a new statement on the issue. The small issues wouldn't stop me from making a recommend. The airbox oil, parking brake, etc. are not safety issues or anything that will leave you stuck on the side of the road.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
I don't think a lack of mechanical know-how would prevent Spyder ownership. The dealer network may not be perfect, or widespread, but it is adequate for someone who realizes the limitations. No different than a person that thinks a pencil has too many moving parts, owning a car. They just have to react to problems differently than the rest of us. They also have to realize that any motorcycle requires a bit more TLC and maintenance than the car the bought at the Chevy dealer. I tell people if they are going to consider a motorcycle, they might want to consider a Spyder, since I love it, and I think it has many features that can protect a novice rider. I do have some reservations in getting too enthusiastic about my recommendations until they figure out for certain why the steering systems are failing at a high rate.
As far as the riding experience goes I always mention how much fun it is to ride. I am honest and let them know there are a few bugs that are being worked out as usual in a new machine. If the person knows anything about motorcycles or has had a few in the past they usually have their own war stories. All manufacturers have had quality control issues at some time or other. I was just reading a recall notice in a magazine for BMW, I think. A welding flaw on the swingarm may fail and the swingarm may break in two! Not much fun at any speed. I am finding that more people are aware of some reliability issues and the steering problem that some are having. It is making them hold off until some good news comes out.
Things like re routing hoses so they stop rubbing, Pulling the park brake mechanism and resetting so you need only 2 clicks to lock/ light push to unlock, Adjust belt to stop harmonics, Foam in / breeder/fuse box Extra tubing over gas lines. Tighten rad. hoses and add sealer to stop leaks.
Not to mention grease fitting that are next to impossible to get to.
Shocks when adjusted the right way, the cam still brakes.
I can do all this and more I've worked with my hands all my life.
Oh yea squealing brakes''
'' DON'T GET ME WORNG I LOVE MY SPYDER.''
I know BRP from there snowmobiles I've known what i was getting into.
But to somebody who didn't know, all this would drive them up a wall.
And way to many trips to a dealer.
This why i ask how do you recommend a Spyder to some one who comes
to you out of the blue.?
truck 85
New member
because at the end of the day the juice is worth the squeeze all that little stuff dose not stack up to the fun
A lot of those issues were addressed on the 2009s.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I responded to this thread but it disappeared...interesting...whoops...guess I never sent it...
Anyway, I recommend the Spyder without reservation. I haven't had any problems and I'd like to think most Spyder owners haven't either. Many times forums bring out the problems as people are looking for solutions. The Spyder is not a perfect vehicle, but no such critter exists. For those with issues, I hope BRP fixes them soon so others are not unhappy and critical of the Spyder. Everyone benefits when the Spyder works well for all of us...
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BLACK WIDOW
New member
Warranty
I just tell the folks that ask me about the Spyder that I would strongly recommend the extended warranty. I haven't had to use my warranty yet, but fixing things (minor) is part of the enjoyment of operating a motorcycle. IMHO:doorag: But like you say there are some that wouldn't know the difference between a Ratchet and a Hatchet. nojoke
Michael
I just tell the folks that ask me about the Spyder that I would strongly recommend the extended warranty. I haven't had to use my warranty yet, but fixing things (minor) is part of the enjoyment of operating a motorcycle. IMHO:doorag: But like you say there are some that wouldn't know the difference between a Ratchet and a Hatchet. nojoke
Michael
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
I explain that the 08's had some issues and they are better off looking at 09's if they want used. Then I say I know nothing about the 2010's. But I do say they are a blast to ryde. And I'm confident in sending someone to my dealer because I know he is one of the best in the entire USA. He is honest, upfront and a TOTAL gearhead so I trust him. I don't say anything good about BRP - or anything bad for that matter - I just zip the lip and praise my dealer.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Because compared to my vintage Brit bikes the Spyders are maintenance-free. :roflblack:
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Amanda B
New member
I always recommend it
I have absolutely NO mechanical ability, I am picking it up as I go along...I have never owned a bike and only rode one a few times, with that said I did have a jetski or two of which again I knew nothing about but picked up along the way. I ALWAYS tell people it is not for everyone, not cheap, but that it is a blast and probably much safer than a bike. When they ask would I buy again, my answer is a resounding YES!! If one has no mechanical ability but has some intelligence and is willing to take the time to look it up and/or ask questions, it isn't that big of a deal. The benefits outweigh the costs in my opinion so I recommend it.
I have absolutely NO mechanical ability, I am picking it up as I go along...I have never owned a bike and only rode one a few times, with that said I did have a jetski or two of which again I knew nothing about but picked up along the way. I ALWAYS tell people it is not for everyone, not cheap, but that it is a blast and probably much safer than a bike. When they ask would I buy again, my answer is a resounding YES!! If one has no mechanical ability but has some intelligence and is willing to take the time to look it up and/or ask questions, it isn't that big of a deal. The benefits outweigh the costs in my opinion so I recommend it.
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BillGargan
Guest
I, and I believe the vast majority of owners (many of which are not on the forums), have never had a problem -- whatsoever.
I am at an age and condition where I have absolutely no desire to work on my car (except to fill the washer fluid) or my Spyder -- and I don't.
Much can go wrong with these machines but it mostly does not happen.
Recommend away . . .
I am at an age and condition where I have absolutely no desire to work on my car (except to fill the washer fluid) or my Spyder -- and I don't.
Much can go wrong with these machines but it mostly does not happen.
Recommend away . . .
SpyderSteve
New member
:agree:
WaltH
Senior Member
When I am asked if I would buy another Spyder, I reply that I am already on my second Spyder. I do not mention that my first Spyder burned to the ground. I also do not mention the high incidence of steering malfunctions some have experienced. I am satisfied that my new Spyder will not burn (canisterectomy, crankcase breather catchcan, etc.), and I am optimistic that BRP will solve the steering problem fairly soon. These issues are too complex to cover in casual conversation. They are best left to forums such as this one where the proper context can be presented. If BRP does not solve the steering problem to my satisfaction, I will actively discourage the curious from buying a Spyder, and I will not buy another one myself
Currently, my future includes a third Spyder when the time and conditions are right.
Currently, my future includes a third Spyder when the time and conditions are right.
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
Well whether they are on forums or not - you can't tell. It is your belief which I get that but nobody knows for sure what the percentage of owners are trouble free.
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