09 Spyder GS lost key - is it possible to program new keys to the Spyder?

[Peter Aawen]

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I don't understand this discussion about a red master key. If I buy a new dess module, I don't have to worry about a red master key right? Just 2 new blanks?

Nope, WRONG!!

If you're talking about a 2013 & earlier DESS, and you buy OEM keys from BRP, regardless of if they are cut or not &/or if you also get an ignition that they'll work in, then each of those keys has a different and unique code WHICH WILL NOT HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED INTO THE NEW DESS UNIT; and I'm pretty sure that to do that, you'll NEED A RED MASTER KEY to program the DESS to accept at least one of those keys, if not both!

 

[Donbmw]

You don’t need to replace the ignition switch. Only the DESS MODULE. As long as you have a factory chipped key the first time you turn the ignition on that key will be programmed automatically. Any more keys you will need the RED MASTER KEY.

 

[Cobranut]

If the existing key you have has a chip for the pre-2014 bikes, you'll only need one more key to get up and running.
Buy the DESS module and one additional key. Have that key cut to match the one you have.
When you first use that key to start the bike, the new DESS module will recognize that key and automatically store it's ID.
To add the second key, you'll need one of the Red Master Keys. I'd certainly hope that any BRP dealer from the pre-2014 era would have one of those Red Keys.

 

[cobramadness]

Nope, WRONG!!

If you're talking about a 2013 & earlier DESS, and you buy OEM keys from BRP, regardless of if they are cut or not &/or if you also get an ignition that they'll work in, then each of those keys has a different and unique code WHICH WILL NOT HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED INTO THE NEW DESS UNIT; and I'm pretty sure that to do that, you'll NEED A RED MASTER KEY to program the DESS to accept at least one of those keys, if not both!

I'm ordering part number 710001195 per the dealer which from the info I have gathered is a 2013 DESS.....??

You don’t need to replace the ignition switch. Only the DESS MODULE. As long as you have a factory chipped key the first time you turn the ignition on that key will be programmed automatically. Any more keys you will need the RED MASTER KEY.

So I won't even need the dealer to program it? I just install the new dess and turn the ignition with the new keys???

 

[Cobranut]

So I won't even need the dealer to program it? I just install the new dess and turn the ignition with the new keys???

That will store the first key.
You'll need a Red Master key to store any additional keys.

 

[cobramadness]

That will store the first key.
You'll need a Red Master key to store any additional keys.

Just to clarify... I can buy 710001195 and ONE new chip key.... once I install new DESS and turn ignition with new key inserted, that new key will be programmed? I don't need 2 keys? And I don't need dealer to program? Seems too easy, why did nobody mention this before.

 

[Donbmw]

On my 2010 I only replace the DESS module. Had a locksmith cut a key. Turned on the ignition key was programmed.

 

[cobramadness]

On my 2010 I only replace the DESS module. Had a locksmith cut a key. Turned on the ignition key was programmed.

That's great news. Where is the DESS module located on these? How do I access?

 

[cobramadness]

Can someone give me the correct part number for the key I need to order? Looks like there are several different ones.

 

[Donbmw]

Just go to https://www.partspitstoponline.com/ there is only one part number for the key and it fit all years starting with 2013 and older.

 

[cobramadness]

Just go to https://www.partspitstoponline.com/ there is only one part number for the key and it fit all years starting with 2013 and older.

Confused because I'm seeing 710002969 & 710004408

 

[Donbmw]

710002969 This is only key that is use on 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013.

 

[cobramadness]

710002969 This is only key that is use on 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013.

Thanks, where was the DESS module on your unit? Was it hard to get to?

 

[Donbmw]

Under the front fairing below the head lights. Took off everything the manual said I needed to. I think with all the right side removed and-the air box off, you might be able to get to it. It’s not going to be fun...

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[Peter Aawen]

Just to clarify... I can buy 710001195 and ONE new chip key.... once I install new DESS and turn ignition with new key inserted, that new key will be programmed? I don't need 2 keys? And I don't need dealer to program? Seems too easy, why did nobody mention this before.

If you do this ^ you will end up with JUST ONE key that (might) work.

From there, if you want to add another key that will work with your Spyder, you will either need to use a Red Master Key and program your DESS to accept another; or if you're lucky enough to find a locksmith who can and is prepared to do so, you might be able to get that one key cloned.

 

[Donbmw]

At one time I worked for a dealership that was owned by a group which had many dealerships around the country. At the time I got this 2010, I was still in contact with with the dealership I worked for, and I got in contact with the service manager of the Can Am dealership. He confirmed that there was no longer a replacement ignition switch available for my year of Spyder. He also confirmed the procedure in the manual for just replacing the DESS module when the ignition is first turned on with a factory chipped key cut from a lock (we used the trunk key and gave it to a locksmith). Once we had a standard key blank cut, we were able to lock everything to make sure the missing key the other owner didn’t lock it up. I ordered new factory keys, the newest DESS module, replaced it, turned on the ignition, and she started right up. It did quit starting after, but it wasn’t a key/DESS issue, the fuel pump had gone bad. I did find that the dealership here still had a RED MASTER KEY and could program the extra keys. Been back on the road since 2018.

 

[cobramadness]

If you do this ^ you will end up with JUST ONE key that (might) work.

From there, if you want to add another key that will work with your Spyder, you will either need to use a Red Master Key and program your DESS to accept another; or if you're lucky enough to find a locksmith who can and is prepared to do so, you might be able to get that one key cloned.

I don't care about a 2nd key, thank you!