HHC (Hill Hold Control) - what am I doing wrong? Why won't it work?

[JamesLaz]

Hi all,

I was reading in my manual that the Can-Am's have a HHC function. Per the manual it is automatic and there is no way to turn it off. My question is what am I doing wrong because my 2019 Can-Am Spyder F3 Limited doesn't seem to work for me. I can pull up to a light or stopping on a hill and if I release the brake, it just starts to roll in the downhill direction.

I am hoping someone can help me figure this out. Not a big deal, just wondering why its not working per the manual.



Thanks,

James

 

[PaladinLV]

Did you read the NOTE?

AJ

 

[Valkrocket]

Did you read the NOTE?

AJ

And let me tell you, That's the quickest 1 second you can imagine. :yikes:

 

[JamesLaz]

Well I guess I didn't understand the note, so what is the point of it. I can't really perceive the 1 second. It seems like I let off the brake and am rolling immediately but it must be holding for that one second. Thank you for your replies and help.

Thanks,

James

 

[Peter Aawen]

Well I guess I didn't understand the note, so what is the point of it. I can't really perceive the 1 second. It seems like I let off the brake and am rolling immediately but it must be holding for that one second. Thank you for your replies and help.

Thanks,

James

That's pretty much what everyone else has found with this 'feature'....

It's gotta be a really flat 'Hill' for it to be noticeable; and it's the shortest '1 second' anyone's ever experienced! :yikes:

BRP Marketing at its finest!

 

[Jetfixer]

There is no mention anywhere, but there is some amount of "hill" required to trigger this feature. My 2020 RTL seems like it holds for 2 seconds when stopped on enough of a grade to trigger the feature.

 

[bigbadbrucie]

That's pretty much what everyone else has found with this 'feature'....

It's gotta be a really flat 'Hill' for it to be noticeable; and it's the shortest '1 second' anyone's ever experienced! :yikes:

BRP Marketing at its finest!

I don’t know, Peter..... I find that on my ‘14 RTS my bike holds pretty darn good on an incline on an overpass, and it sure doesn’t “run away” when the light turns red. I mean it’s got round wheels that are supposed to roll easily so you can get the best mileage possible, and now you want auto brakes to hold on a 10 degree hill also? Give me a break (brake)!

 

[Peter Aawen]

I don’t know, Peter..... I find that on my ‘14 RTS my bike holds pretty darn good on an incline on an overpass, and it sure doesn’t “run away” when the light turns red. I mean it’s got round wheels that are supposed to roll easily so you can get the best mileage possible, and now you want auto brakes to hold on a 10 degree hill also? Give me a break (brake)!

Like the play on words but are you sure your 2014 even has this Hill Hold Control?? I thought it came out somewhat later... :dontknow:

Personally, I don't have this on my 2013 RT Ltd Spyder and I really don't miss it or want it... Still, I think you may have missed my point - this HHC thing is 'a feature' that BRP have told everyone their fairly expensive machines have got, and the Marketing/PR mob crow about how it's such a wonderful thing in the media releases and in the manuals; only out there in the real world, a fair proportion of the owners either have been taken in by what they thought it did by the media releases/manuals etc, or they can't seem to get it to work as advertised &/or as per the marketing blurb.... juuust like so many other things the BRP Marketing/PR Mob have told us over the years!

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...ld-feature-on-my-2019-RTL&highlight=Hill+Hold

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...-Hold-Control-on-2021-RTs&highlight=Hill+Hold

 

[bigbadbrucie]

Quuite honestly, Peter, I don’t believe me ‘14 has it either, and like you I do not miss having it, nor do I want it. I do believe everything else that I said is true....the wheels are round for a reason; they ROLL. My ‘14 does sort of hold on the inclines....a lot better than the cars when I first started driving. Also, I did NOT realize that BRP advertised that they had HHC......and, you do realize that even though my comment was to your post, it was not really intended to cast a reflection on you...you were just in the way. Personally I think the HHC is a total waste of time. LEARN TO DRIVE

just my 2 cents worth!

 

[pauly1]

I've never heard of the HHC or read it in the manual. I have an electronic version of the 2018 F3 Owners Manual and did a search for "hold" and "hill": both came up with no reference to HHC. The manual did go into length about starting and stopping on hills, using appropriate brake and throttle, with no mention of the "feature".

Maybe it's from my 2-wheels days, but I always cover the brake and release when I want to go. By holding down the brake pedal at a stop, the machine is less likely to be bumped out from under you from a rear end collision. I can vouch that it worked for me.

Wayne

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Spot checked a couple of online manuals. Looks like it first appeared in the 2019 F3 manual. The 2020 manual adds that a 5% grade is required. Only saw it in the F3 manuals. Could be an RT feature, though, if you feel it working. Go find yourself a slope over 5% and test it out if you have a 2019 and newer.

 

[Dasmoetorhead]

What a worthless feature as configured. The hill hd feature on my Ram 2500 actually works.

 

[baxter]

My 2020 RTL had it as well as my 2022 F3L Limited. Works on slopes/hill when stopped. It basically let's one to take foot off brake and begin to accelerate before bike begins to roll back. I have found it to work ok.

 

[Excoastie]

'21 RT-L

Never noticed this feature. I don't really care either, as it's no trouble to roll in the throttle with my foot on the brake for a second or two, if needed.


--Exco

 

[LongIsland]

HHC or not I developed the habit of applying a little throttle when moving from a stopped position so I don't roll back.

 

[Flamewinger]

Not really needed as you can be giving it gas as you take your foot off the brake. Unlike a car where you remove your foot from the gas and need this before hitting the gas.

 

[Deanna777]

I have the Hill Hold Control on my 2023 F3 LTD Special Series.

I have not had to use it.

Deanna

 

[ulflyer]

I can think of a number of things they can do better other than a hill holder. :yikes:

 

[baxter]

I have used it numerous times on both Spyders that I have had. It usually holds bike on incline for about two seconds which is enough reaction time from releasing brake and begin to accelerate.