Who Out There Has Gotten The Replacement Sprocket?

[blacklightning]

Just had mine done this morning at Sport Durst in Durham, NC. They said it was really stuck on there and had shown the first signs of red dust (I checked it last in October). Still only took about 2 hours. Great service department there.

 

[Peteoz]

I was under the impression the loctite they were using took a day to cure before riding off or did I miss something:dontknow:

Yes, the word from the regular Loctite using pulley mechs is that you need 6 hours for one type of Loctite and 24 hours for the other (I can’t remember the numbers and am too lazy to look them up, Cobwebs ). That’s actually on the instructions. I did read Lamonster comment that you could probably get away with have the new sprocket installed, gently ride it home if you are only a mile or so away, and then let it sit to set completely.

Pete

 

[Cobwebs]

Yes, the word from the regular Loctite using pulley mechs is that you need 6 hours for one type of Loctite and 24 hours for the other (I can’t remember the numbers and am too lazy to look them up, Cobwebs ). That’s actually on the instructions. I did read Lamonster comment that you could probably get away with have the new sprocket installed, gently ride it home if you are only a mile or so away, and then let it sit to set completely.

Pete

Because it's all for our ''safety'' you would think the guidelines for repair would need to be strictly adhered to (snicker ....adhered). What happens two years down the track when captain gullible pulls out for a cager manouvre and finds that rare species in the driveline called neutral as the road train approaching licks its lips in anticipation of a bullbar strength test.
If we know how it should be repaired and approve how it shouldn't be by riding off 24 hours prematurely are we then implicated in our own demise by not speaking up thereby eliminating any recourse we might have had regarding the scraping off of our body chunks off said bullbar for family members to part out.
All if's, but's and maybe's I know at a glance but isn't that what started the recall. Has someone chewed a bullbar to set this in motion in the first place.
I hope I don't get moderated for this for straying into the dark side of sprocket replacement but I feel so strongly about what corporates get away with and when it comes to life and death you know what, sometimes someone has to stand up regardless.

 

[cjr00]

Texted my dealership today. Sprockets are due in mid March. Not a Can Am "specific" dealership. Mine has been inspected and I'll ride it every chance I get until then...

 

[vulkus]

When I called up my dealer they told me that, when the recall has finished in the States they will be issuing the recall in Australia. As there is currently not enough sprockets for supply.

 

[Peteoz]

I’m sure you won’t get “moderated” Cobwebs.

It would be interesting to know if BRP are including the instruction to allow the Loctite to set, and dealers mechs are ignoring it, or if the dealer mechs are simply not reading the “instructions on the packet”, and not suggesting to customers that they let the repair cure in the workshop overnight…..it’s your call, Mr/Mrs Customer, but we recommend allowing it to cure. Allowing it to cure overnight would not affect the 45 minutes BRP have allowed the dealer to perform the warranty fix.

I know one thing for sure. I will be booking in overnight if I have to drop my RT in for the “fix” (probably riding it to the nearby hotel/motel to sit overnight.)

Pete

 

[Cobwebs]

When I called up my dealer they told me that, when the recall has finished in the States they will be issuing the recall in Australia. As there is currently not enough sprockets for supply.

Logic would be, seeing as it's a safety issue that the highest mileage units should be replaced first but it seems dealers with the highest sales get preference. Zero $%#!s given by BRP.

 

[Little Blue]

On The Schedule List

... I called my Spyder Dealer and ask about the front sprocket replacement. They are now scheduling on a weekly basis. Sooooooo if a sprocket update kit comes in they will call me. I still have a waiting time, but hopefully it will be done by April. ....:thumbup:

 

[Cobwebs]

I’m sure you won’t get “moderated” Cobwebs.

It would be interesting to know if BRP are including the instruction to allow the Loctite to set, and dealers mechs are ignoring it, or if the dealer mechs are simply not reading the “instructions on the packet”, and not suggesting to customers that they let the repair cure in the workshop overnight…..it’s your call, Mr/Mrs Customer, but we recommend allowing it to cure. Allowing it to cure overnight would not affect the 45 minutes BRP have allowed the dealer to perform the warranty fix.

I know one thing for sure. I will be booking in overnight if I have to drop my RT in for the “fix” (probably riding it to the nearby hotel/motel to sit overnight.)

Pete

Hope your right Pete but you never know, when I get on a roll .....................:cus::firstplace:
Without the curing it's a pointless exercise given there's been no definitive statement from BRP about the metallurgy being incorrect on the original sprockets and whether the replacements are an actual improvement if so. The very fact that the replacement needs loctite sort of points to the cheapest fix they could come up with along with a $1 washer and quick cnc skimming.
Last time I looked I couldn't find a dealer that doesn't have a pick up and delivery van and if BRP has to cough up the bill for that to swing into action for all customers that require it that's how it should be. After all safety is BRP's highest priority bla bla bla...............:banghead:
If I were a dealer I'd be very wary of shortcutting because you might be setting yourself up for a world of litigious hurt that BRP will absolve themselves of leaving you to duke it out on your own not to mention your own reputation as a trusted source for further work.

 

[missouriboy]

I got my first inspection yesterday (Friday the 13th!) and was told they aren't even replacing sprockets unless needed. If needed, they will order one and will call me back when my turn comes in the (long) backorder wait list.

Mine wasn't too bad, even for my high mileage, but WAS serviced and WILL be replaced, so my replacement is on-order. They estimated receipt sometime in March at the earliest. Meanwhile, the sprocket doesn't look to be at high risk of failure, so go ahead and ride, but try not to abuse it (which I don't anyway...).

And my winter-filthy Spidey got a nice freebie wash job! :clap:

 

[Elembytes]

I just got my replacement sprocket put on today. The dealer I took it too, had 1 in stock and I was able to get it and it's the permanent fix. So am thankful for that.

 

[Knizar]

I just got my replacement sprocket put on today. The dealer I took it too, had 1 in stock and I was able to get it and it's the permanent fix. So am thankful for that.

We all ray:ray:ray: that you're right! Time and miles will tell, let me know in 100K how it's standing up. A little early for them to call it "The Final Fix". Good Luck :thumbup: Bill

 

[ulflyer]

I’m sure you won’t get “moderated” Cobwebs.

It would be interesting to know if BRP are including the instruction to allow the Loctite to set, and dealers mechs are ignoring it, or if the dealer mechs are simply not reading the “instructions on the packet”, and not suggesting to customers that they let the repair cure in the workshop overnight…..it’s your call, Mr/Mrs Customer, but we recommend allowing it to cure. Allowing it to cure overnight would not affect the 45 minutes BRP have allowed the dealer to perform the warranty fix.

I know one thing for sure. I will be booking in overnight if I have to drop my RT in for the “fix” (probably riding it to the nearby hotel/motel to sit overnight.)

Pete

Has anyone seen the BRP instruction, and if so, exactly what does it say about curing?

 

[Cobwebs]

Has anyone seen the BRP instruction, and if so, exactly what does it say about curing?

Techs get zonked for releasing information like that.
Scroll to 6.30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIu2lzLTe28&t=391s
Various times shown for full cure dependant on material - http://tds.henkel.com/tds5/Studio/ShowPDF/?pid=609&format=MTR&subformat=REAC&language=EN&plant=WERCS&authorization=2

 

[Gwolf]

Techs get zonked for releasing information like that.
Scroll to 6.30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIu2lzLTe28&t=391s
Various times shown for full cure dependant on material - http://tds.henkel.com/tds5/Studio/ShowPDF/?pid=609&format=MTR&subformat=REAC&language=EN&plant=WERCS&authorization=2

BRP might not release that type of information, but it is pretty good bet that you can get the most accurate information from Loctite. Probably just look up the instructions on the web. If not, you can be sure the Loctite Corp website has the correct information available. They may even have a recommendation for type to use for securing splined gears. Locktite should have a vested interest in having satisfied customers that will continue to buy their products. BRP should have an interest too, but they also have an interest in keeping dealerships in business. Follow the Deniro!

 

[ulflyer]

After reading Loctite charts about how much time it takes the 609 to set up, it looks to me, like 6 hours is about the minimum recommended. Maybe i'm reading it wrong, but at any rate its clear the Loctite should be allowed to harden thoroughly.

I had about 20 minutes on mine!

If I thought I could remove my belt I'd be tempted to pull the sprocket and do it right, but I'd use 648 which looks to me like the better one.

 

[Little Blue]

Still Waiting

ray:.... I am being told that two Kits are coming in February. One of the Kits supposedly 'has my name' is for me.
Time will tell. Hoping for some very GOOOOOOD news. .........:thumbup:

 

[Peteoz]

After reading Loctite charts about how much time it takes the 609 to set up, it looks to me, like 6 hours is about the minimum recommended. Maybe i'm reading it wrong, but at any rate its clear the Loctite should be allowed to harden thoroughly.

I had about 20 minutes on mine!

If I thought I could remove my belt I'd be tempted to pull the sprocket and do it right, but I'd use 648 which looks to me like the better one.

…….the only rider on that is that Lamonster believe that if you ride carefully, for a shortish distance to home, and then leave it to fully cure, there should not be an issue, Ulf :thumbup:

Pete

 

[Cobwebs]

…….the only rider on that is that Lamonster believe that if you ride carefully, for a shortish distance to home, and then leave it to fully cure, there should not be an issue, Ulf :thumbup:

Pete

I think that is the sort of advice that Shawn Smoak alludes to of being careful about from a litigation point of view.In other words if the repair isn't followed to the letter and a problem arises the heavies will have your ass for breakfast.:bbq:

 

[ulflyer]

I think that is the sort of advice that Shawn Smoak alludes to of being careful about from a litigation point of view.In other words if the repair isn't followed to the letter and a problem arises the heavies will have your ass for breakfast.:bbq:

You might be right, but if you're told "you're good to go" immediately after installation, I believe I'm covered if there is a problem in the future.