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..EMERGENCY .. for 2022 RYKER owners - recall on Handle-bar bolts!

Now that we have heard about this, the folks with the bikes they are talking about could just remove the bolt, which I'm thinking has to be easy to get to, and take that bolt and get a replacement (Grade 8) same size, same threads, and it would do it I'm pretty sure. Just an Old Mechanic's idea...
 
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Do not ride your 2 month old Ryker.
You must have it towed.
No, BRP will not reimburse you for the tow bill.

Quite a company.

Tim Bambrick
Monkton, Maryland

Well I think TWO out of 9000 Rykers would NOT cause me to have it towed AT MY EXPENSE ..... JMHO ..... Mike :thumbup:
 
I'm not going to blame BRP 100% on this one, here's why and only theories. An outside vendor most likely supplies these bolts to BRP. Then vendor runs out of correct matl. bar stock and substitutes different stock....naughty. Maybe correct matl. but heat treated through (brittle) instead of case hardened (think egg). Maybe the bolts were machined with no or undersized inside radius at under the bolt head or at the end of the threads. Inside sharp corners cause what pro machinist call "stress risers". Maybe all of the above. I wonder if the bolts are all breaking in the same spot. Maybe certain people up there need a touch more education and responsibility. Bolts may not need a Certification of made to spec. Certs. are only pieces of paper anyway (like dollars) and heck...they're not airplane parts!

I have to agree with canamryder on this one.
Having worked in auto parts manufacturing for over thirty years, I have seen things like this before.
This is a supplier issue that Can-Am had no control over until they were made aware of it.
I think they are trying to get ahead of it by recalling all Rykers before someone is hurt or killed.
The supplier will be in for a meeting with BRP to explain themselves and what they are doing to stop it from happening again.
I know this sucks for those who have Rykers, but I think BRP doing the safe thing by recalling all machines and telling people NOT to ride them until repairs are made.
When was the last time a car maker told you not to drive their car on a recall.
 
Have no idea what the bolt looks like. At the least, I'd remove the existing bolt and purchase a similar grade 8 bolt. If not, find a commercial bolt supplier and order an appropriate commercial grade 8 bolt.

As has been suggested above.
 
As I understand, 2 bolts have broken while riding and another 56 have broken while the bikes were being prep'd by dealers.
So, out of 9,300 bikes, 1 out of 160 produced had the problem. I think that is pretty significant. And, that's not counting bikes that would break in the near future if the bolts are not corrected. I sure wouldn't be riding no matter how much the urge. Just my observation from a sideline viewer..... Jim
 
As I understand, 2 bolts have broken while riding and another 56 have broken while the bikes were being prep'd by dealers.
So, out of 9,300 bikes, 1 out of 160 produced had the problem. I think that is pretty significant. And, that's not counting bikes that would break in the near future if the bolts are not corrected. I sure wouldn't be riding no matter how much the urge. Just my observation from a sideline viewer..... Jim

I'm confused .... " 9,300 bikes.... 1 out of 160 had a problem " .... what happened with the other 9140 bikes .... Also as to bolt strength, I have seen them rated at ... 10.3 .... just sayin .... Mike
 
I'm confused .... " 9,300 bikes.... 1 out of 160 had a problem " .... what happened with the other 9140 bikes .... Also as to bolt strength, I have seen them rated at ... 10.3 .... just sayin .... Mike

Mike,

As I see it, there were 9,300 bikes produced. A total of 58 of those bikes had bolts break. 9,300 divided by 58 = one out of every 160 bikes (so far) have had bolts break. I haven't seen anything about any particular year, run date, or anything else pinpointing which bikes have faulty bolts. I believe all bikes are suspect which is why they are all being recalled. BRP does not want people riding their bikes until the repair is complete. That's because of the potential of more bolts breaking. I sure wouldn't want to be aggressively going through the twisties or riding the interstate and have the steering bolt suddenly break. If I owned a Ryker, I would not ride it until it is repaired..... Jim
 
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Mike,

As I see it, there were 9,300 bikes produced. A total of 58 of those bikes had bolts break. 9,300 divided by 58 = one out of every 160 bikes (so far) have had bolts break. I haven't seen anything about any particular year, run date, or anything else pinpointing which bikes have faulty bolts. I believe all bikes are suspect which is why they are all being recalled. BRP does not want people riding their bikes until the repair is complete. That's because of the potential of more bolts breaking. I sure wouldn't want to be aggressively going through the twisties or riding the interstate and have the steering bolt suddenly break. If I owned a Ryker, I would not ride it until it is repaired..... Jim

Thank you .... now it makes sense ....... Do you think it's possible that the Dealer assemblers were OVER-torquing them ???? PMK just posted an excellent explanation about what over-torquing does .......... Mike :thumbup:
 
Mike,

As I see it, there were 9,300 bikes produced. A total of 58 of those bikes had bolts break. 9,300 divided by 58 = one out of every 160 bikes (so far) have had bolts break. I haven't seen anything about any particular year, run date, or anything else pinpointing which bikes have faulty bolts. I believe all bikes are suspect which is why they are all being recalled. BRP does not want people riding their bikes until the repair is complete. That's because of the potential of more bolts breaking. I sure wouldn't want to be aggressively going through the twisties or riding the interstate and have the steering bolt suddenly break. If I owned a Ryker, I would not ride it until it is repaired..... Jim


This recall is for 2022 Rykers. I don't understand why you don't think a particular year is pinpointed. I don't think this defective bolt is a concern for Ryker owners of all model years.
 
To be fair. The 'Exploding' Pinto was a focused hit piece. Many cars of that era had similar, rear mounted fuel tanks, resulting in some fiery crash scenarios. While not necessarily as safe as it might have been, it was not worse than others in the field. And Ford did extensive testing to get the design certified by DOT.

The people who did the exploding Pinto video destroyed several Pintos with ever increasing speeds and destruction in attempt to create the desired explosion. But without success. Frustrated, they mounted a remotely triggered ignition device and proceeded with a final run at a speed and force which collapsed the rear of the Pinto all the way into the back seat. Fuel spewed everywhere, but still no explosion as the larger car pushed the Pinto along. At which point they triggered the ignition device they had rigged. This is why the resulting explosion was so delayed in the video. The previous videos where no fire resulted were not shown or mentioned. Making it appear as if their first attempt was successful. In other words. It was agenda, not scientific test, driven.

None of this was revealed until after the law suit against Ford was settled.

Not exactly a fair and equitable way to determine fault.


Thank you for pointing this out, Ron. I remember the original story and when it was discredited. It was absolutely criminal what those people did to falsify the crash test results.
 
This recall is for 2022 Rykers. I don't understand why you don't think a particular year is pinpointed. I don't think this defective bolt is a concern for Ryker owners of all model years.

Yes, you are correct. In my foggy minded haste, I got too far ahead of the facts. Sorry If I caused concern needlessly. I'll go sit in my corner now.....
 
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I'm going to call my dealer today. I'll see if they'll pick mine up without charging me. I really hope BRP isn't leaving the tow expense to us. It's pretty crappy to tell us not to ride and then not pay for a tow.

I'm waiting on a new oil filler/dipstick neck to come in for warranty repair as it is.
 
I spoke with Elk Grove Powersport on Saturday. They're telling me it could be up to a month before they get the part. I'm sure I'm going to have to pay to have it towed either way. I'm sure if they did cover the tow it would be a reimbursement. Best of luck to everyone.Wish I could just order the part and do it myself.
 
I spoke with Elk Grove Powersport on Saturday. They're telling me it could be up to a month before they get the part. I'm sure I'm going to have to pay to have it towed either way. I'm sure if they did cover the tow it would be a reimbursement. Best of luck to everyone.Wish I could just order the part and do it myself.

Just buy some 10.3 Grade bolts and have total peace of mind .... they arn't cheap but they will solve the issue .....JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:
 
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I spoke with Elk Grove Powersport on Saturday. They're telling me it could be up to a month before they get the part.

Ouch. I already got the call from my dealer that mine is fixed, so it sure seems to be hit-or-miss on which dealers got parts and which didn't.

Maybe try another dealer?

Later,
EV
 
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(1) M8 X 100mm & DON'T FORGET to pick up a (1) M8 washer....you might need it.

The replacemment bolt is 95mm so it doesn't pancake the bottom threads if they over torque it. Sometimes the 100mm would catch shavings on the bottom so they are told to clean the hole.
 
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Thank you .... now it makes sense ....... Do you think it's possible that the Dealer assemblers were OVER-torquing them ???? PMK just posted an excellent explanation about what over-torquing does .......... Mike :thumbup:

Someone please help us out? Someone mentioned in their "reply" that the original 2022 bolts were made out of Aluminum....whaaat! I can't find that reply now...was I dreaming? Anyway maybe BRP changed the material (supply shortage?) and didn't change the torque specs. Does anyone have a detailed manual for the 2022 Rykers. Look up the torque spec. of the bolt and compare to the 2019 spec. Maybe BRP don't use torque wrenches when they are behind schedule.
This screenshot is from a 2019 manual.
 

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