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BRP BUDS Black Friday Sale
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I bought one, only 1 day after I got it, I realized that I did not need it. I got a return number, and the return addr off their web site, sent it back, and so far, they have refused the return. In the middle of dealing with them, they first wanted me to send it back to their sister company in Slovenia!
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IdahoMtnSpyder
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That's not surprising. The whole operation is in Austria, and maybe Slovenia. The US address is an office building with lawyers, business agents, etc. It's not a distribution center.
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IdahoMtnSpyder
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Curious, what is the Right to Repair philosophy? As far as I know for the US the fact the kit is available for retail sale means the manufacturer, BRP, does not have a lock on the repair diagnostics.
IdahoMtnSpyder
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Yep, there's a whole long drop down list of pricing options. It looks like the only real deal is the 1 year All dealer/All tech license with an added free license for BUDS2. The cyberdeal2020 code takes 10% off so the final price is $643.48. Now, do I click the checkout button or not? Sure is tempting.
EDIT: I caved and clicked on the Checkout button!
IdahoMtnSpyder
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That's why years ago Congress passed the law that emissions related information has to be readily available to all service techs, although a local auto mechanic said the test equipment is still pricey. Something like 10 grand. His died so he quit doing emissions testing and retired a couple of years later. Of course code readers are inexpensive, especially like the one from Harbor Freight.
In case you weren't aware, if any of the codes that pop up on a Spyder are considered emissions related they are the same as for cars. If a code comes up that isn't in the service manual or in the Spydercodes app, a Google search might turn it up.
The BUDS system is necessary to carry out such mundane things as bleeding the brakes and the recommended and necessary brake fluid change every 2 years tasks which were readily doable in the past. These are not repairs but are maintenance tasks and we should be able to do them without being taken to the cleaners.
There is also a school of thought that these tools should be reasonably priced and I personally find the price excessive. A copy of the BUDS software should be freely available to every registered owner.
The interface box costs be priced in line with what is in them. IMHO $300 is a lot of money for this thing. The schematics for this thing should be open source.
bikerchris1270
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It’s nice to be able to diagnose and repair your own stuff.
Well, I won't be doing the ABS bleeding procedure. So we'll just have to hope for the best.
Of course there is the point that many thousands of vehicles have been on the road for decades and hundreds of thousands
of miles, and have never had their brakes bled, and/or had the fluid changed. So there is that. I do my bikes, but have never
done any of my cars/trucks. Never had an issue, but that's me.
Of course there is the point that many thousands of vehicles have been on the road for decades and hundreds of thousands
of miles, and have never had their brakes bled, and/or had the fluid changed. So there is that. I do my bikes, but have never
done any of my cars/trucks. Never had an issue, but that's me.
Purple Guy
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I've done at least 6 complete brake fluid changes and always bleed everything including the ABS block and have never used BUDS and have never had any problems.
After bleeding everything I make sure to pump the brake pedal before turning the key on and as I said no problems.
After bleeding everything I make sure to pump the brake pedal before turning the key on and as I said no problems.
bikerchris1270
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With the Buds interface, you can cycle/ toggle the VCM which has pump/accumulators for each hydraulic brake wheel, ........you cycle the pump to bleed the accumulators via caliper bleed ports.
Yes, I know that part, but the one poster has said he bleeds his ABS block without the benefit of BUDS, and I was curious how it was done.
IdahoMtnSpyder
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FYI, the kit I ordered is coming by DHL from Slovenia.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
I recently had two packages shipped from Hong Kong and DHL was a part of it. 48 days on the first package and 54 days on the second. It was my BrakeFree helmet light and a package of extra mounting brackets. DHL is the culprit. I hope yours goes better. :bowdown:
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