Tires that will fit the RYKER

[Tslepebull]

For the record, some of the original reviews on the Ryker said the 900 Ace was faster in the corners than the Rally due to better grip in the front. That was attributed to the different tires.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

For the record, some of the original reviews on the Ryker said the 900 Ace was faster in the corners than the Rally due to better grip in the front. That was attributed to the different tires.

Yes I can see that as factual .... off or semi-off road tires will not do as well on pavement, so their max traction will be less ... this is the same for auto's using a winter tread tire .......... Mike

 

[SportsterDoc]

I am all up for finding a replacement for some high quallity tires in the front. But I do not think putting low speed rated car emergency/spare tires is a good idea. My guess is that the original Kendas are better in that case.

The load speed rating of 96M is not an issue for load (1565 pounds) but the M speed rating is limited to 81 MPH.

If a front tire were not repairable, that should get Chris home.

 

[Peter Aawen]

20 mm narrower
6.75 mm shorter in radius

Do not know what it would do to ABS, unless both fronts replaced?...probably would still affect RPM difference with rear.

The difference in width is unlikely to bother the Nanny/ABS in any really noticeable way..... And all it'd take to resolve any issues due to the shorter radius would be to drop the pressure in the taller tire by about 0.5 psi to match the side to side levels a bit - any front to rear RPM variations will be well within the acceptable limits too!!

The Nanny/VSS/ABS/Yada, yada, yada are all quite capable of handling these sorts of minor size differences between the front tires & the front/rear tires; they hafta be, or our Spyders/Rykers would become as un-controllable as lawn darts with warped fins if one front tire or the rear tire ever got a puncture & started going flat.... or if you parked it in the hot sun facing vaguely North (or South) for an hour or so, then jumped on and rode off in the same direction - hot sun on one side, heats up that tire & increases it's pressure by a few psi & therefore increases that tire's rolling dia... you get the drift! :sour:

If the Nanny couldn't handle that sorta difference (& the word from Bosch is she can handle a fair bit more rolling radius difference than that! ) then these machines could be lethal for the maybe 20-30 mins it might take to 'even up' the tire heat & pressures in order to match the rolling radius'!! But they aren't lethal with those sorta differences; and I reckon that's probably proven every day when, somewhere in the Spyder/Ryker world, there'll probably be someone riding safely with greater pressure variations and they'll most likely be doing it without any issues, except that maybe their machine will a little twitchy or pull to one side for a short while when they first start moving! :thumbup: This is just one of the snazzy features that we benefit from by using pneumatic tires filled with air. hyea:

 

[Highwayman2013]

When my Rally is due for front tires I’ll probably try the 175 width. The fenders look like they could be spaced back a little to fit the wider tires.

 

[Markubis]

For the record, some of the original reviews on the Ryker said the 900 Ace was faster in the corners than the Rally due to better grip in the front. That was attributed to the different tires.

My understanding was that all Rykers have the same 16" front tires but the 900 and 600 ACE have 16" rims on the rear while the Rally has a 15" rim on the rear.

 

[Tslepebull]

My understanding was that all Rykers have the same 16" front tires but the 900 and 600 ACE have 16" rims on the rear while the Rally has a 15" rim on the rear.

The front tire size is the same for the Ace and Rally but the Rally tire has a more aggressive tread pattern; like a knobby.

 

[Markubis]

The front tire size is the same for the Ace and Rally but the Rally tire has a more aggressive tread pattern; like a knobby.

Thanks,
I was aware of the back tire being more aggressive but I thought the fronts were identical. Since I'm always on pavement I will most likely be switching to something that holds better when it's time for new tires.

 

[SportsterDoc]

My understanding was that all Rykers have the same 16" front tires but the 900 and 600 ACE have 16" rims on the rear while the Rally has a 15" rim on the rear.

Yes, post 3, attachment 1

 

[shakin_jake]

I might be the odd man out but I like the OEM tires that came on my 2020 Ryker Rally. We’ve been having a lot of rain here in north central Fla. as of late. The other day I made a run into Reddick, about 8 miles as the crow flies. Anyways, coming back riding two lane black top I rode right into an oncoming storm, complete with lightning at first, high winds then a deluge of heavy rain in a short amount of time. There was a lot of deep standing water on the road I rode through for at least a good mile, and I didn’t slow down. I was wearing protective gear including a dual sport full face helmet (w/the lengthy sun visor on top). As hot as it’s been (93 degrees Fahrenheit w/a feels like 103 degrees-according to my iPhone weather app) the cool rain water was welcomed but none the less, I kept my speed up (55MPH) as I wanted to get home ASAP. As far as traction mode goes I typically ride with the default setting so VSS was fully engaged. I’ll tell you what, even though I was only traveling at 55 MPH and not @ 70 MPH+ where most complain about these Kendas, my Ryker was firmly planted on the road and considering the standing water I sped through, it didn’t hydroplane once. I felt totally in control at all times. I mean those tires didn’t squirm at all and at the risk of repeating myself, I rode through a lot of standing water @ 55 MPH. I’ll go even further and say if I was on my 92’ airhead GSPD w/their fairly fresh TKC 80’s w/less than 2 K miles on them, I’m not sure I would have ridden at the same brisk pace, and that GSPD is a heavy planted ride. And FWIW, the suspension on the GS is up to snuff, the forks got a recent fluid change and the rear shock is fresher and newer than the tires, and it’s set up (tuned) for my weight

Say what you will about the stock Ryker Kendas but I only have good things to say about mine. Granted, I’m not straffing the roadways like some of you that run often at interstate speeds yet I get out on the interstate and ride it for 15 miles @ 80 MPH (exits 350-368). Okay, that’s 18 miles though more often I’m running between my interchange (368) and hwy 27 exit (a little shorter than 18 miles), w/o a windscreen, and again, no complaints with the handling, nor the tires. Others may have different experiences but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
Education is a method whereby one acquires a higher grade of prejudices - Laurence J. Peter

 

[Peter Aawen]

That's the thing about them Jake.... they can be sorta OK to begin with.... IF you're lucky enough to get a reasonable set that aren't as troublesome as many - but beware, cos while some are sorta OK... it's often only early in the piece; cos many of them only start to become really problematic &/or deteriorate after they get a couple of thousand miles on them!!

But just as most Spyder/Ryker owners find with fitting BajaRon's a/mkt sway bar, until you've got something to compare them to, you really won't know how bad they may actually be... and most don't discover that about a/mkt sway bars OR'proper' auto tires run in the correct pressure range for the Spyder/Ryker load until they replace them and discover how much better fitting either/both can make your ride!! hyea:

So it isn't surprising to me to know that the very first thing most say after fitting either is "Why the :cus: didn't I do that earlier!! :gaah: " :banghead:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I might be the odd man out but I like the OEM tires that came on my 2020 Ryker Rally. We’ve been having a lot of rain here in north central Fla. as of late. The other day I made a run into Reddick, about 8 miles as the crow flies. Anyways, coming back riding two lane black top I rode right into an oncoming storm, complete with lightning at first, high winds then a deluge of heavy rain in a short amount of time. There was a lot of deep standing water on the road I rode through for at least a good mile, and I didn’t slow down. I was wearing protective gear including a dual sport full face helmet (w/the lengthy sun visor on top). As hot as it’s been (93 degrees Fahrenheit w/a feels like 103 degrees-according to my iPhone weather app) the cool rain water was welcomed but none the less, I kept my speed up (55MPH) as I wanted to get home ASAP. As far as traction mode goes I typically ride with the default setting so VSS was fully engaged. I’ll tell you what, even though I was only traveling at 55 MPH and not @ 70 MPH+ where most complain about these Kendas, my Ryker was firmly planted on the road and considering the standing water I sped through, it didn’t hydroplane once. I felt totally in control at all times. I mean those tires didn’t squirm at all and at the risk of repeating myself, I rode through a lot of standing water @ 55 MPH. I’ll go even further and say if I was on my 92’ airhead GSPD w/their fairly fresh TKC 80’s w/less than 2 K miles on them, I’m not sure I would have ridden at the same brisk pace, and that GSPD is a heavy planted ride. And FWIW, the suspension on the GS is up to snuff, the forks got a recent fluid change and the rear shock is fresher and newer than the tires, and it’s set up (tuned) for my weight

Say what you will about the stock Ryker Kendas but I only have good things to say about mine. Granted, I’m not straffing the roadways like some of you that run often at interstate speeds yet I get out on the interstate and ride it for 15 miles @ 80 MPH (exits 350-368). Okay, that’s 18 miles though more often I’m running between my interchange (368) and hwy 27 exit (a little shorter than 18 miles), w/o a windscreen, and again, no complaints with the handling, nor the tires. Others may have different experiences but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
Education is a method whereby one acquires a higher grade of prejudices - Laurence J. Peter

Jake .... Here's WHY you had a good WET road experience ..... The Rallye has OFF-ROAD tires, these tires have much larger spaces between Tread blocks .This enables the tires to shed water much, much better - hence you will have better traction. However on DRY roads they will have less traction than ALL-Season tires .... this info is NOT OPINION ....it's proven scientific FACT ..... another FACT is the Kenda Spyder / Ryker tires are made ( construction-wise ) to a way LOWER standard than any AUTO tire ..... to me this isn't a good thing. If auto tires are properly inflated for the Spyders weight they will provide excellent traction. IF I rode my Spyder RT in the RAIN 90% of the time, I would consider using a tire with a WINTER tread. And " you are not ODD man out " for your opinion ..... someone said " knowledge will set you free ", they were correct imho .... Good Luck .... Mike ................PS, :agree: with what Peter added ..... :thumbup:

 

[Gcclubs]

It appears all new Rykers have ONLY 16 inch wheels ....... So I checked what the Tire Rack has and was surprised to find quite a few in 205/45-16 ...... Vredestein Q-5 has a 205/50-15 for Rallye model ..... only one front tire ( @ 175/45-16 that's 30mm or 1.25 inches wider than stock ) that probably won't fit without mods to the fender and or bracket ........... Did I imagine that the 600 Ryker had 15 inch wheels ???? ............... thanks .... Mike :thumbup:

I have done some hunting around and posted this as an option for the front tires but nobody had any comments. It is very similar in diameter but .8 " wider.

FEDERAL FORMOZA AZ01 in this size. Thoughts?

145/60-16 165/50-16 Difference
Diameter inches (mm) 22.85 22.5 -0.35 -1.6%
Width inches (mm) 5.71 6.5 0.79 13.8%
Circum. inches (mm) 71.79 70.67 -1.11 -1.6%
Sidewall Height inches (mm) 3.43 3.25 -0.18 -5.2%

 

[Markubis]

I have done some hunting around and posted this as an option for the front tires but nobody had any comments. It is very similar in diameter but .8 " wider.

FEDERAL FORMOZA AZ01 in this size. Thoughts?

145/60-16 165/50-16 Difference
Diameter inches (mm) 22.85 22.5 -0.35 -1.6%
Width inches (mm) 5.71 6.5 0.79 13.8%
Circum. inches (mm) 71.79 70.67 -1.11 -1.6%
Sidewall Height inches (mm) 3.43 3.25 -0.18 -5.2%

I think it might be a tight fit inside of the front fenders. Spacers could kick the fender towards the inside to make clearance but then the outside lip/drop of the fender would rub on the wheel. You would need to cut away the outside lip.

which...btw, I am all for....as long as it could be done cleanly. And I don't think that would cause any issues with driving on wet roads since its on the outside of the fender.

 

[chris56]

I see the size of the front tires really as one of the biggest problems of my Ryker, if you ryde on the other side of the world (Austria..) and get a problem like this here ..(in this case someone could help me) your holidays are to forget because of a small whole in your tire, three or four weeks to get a new one ....

on the other side, the tires in the official papers (for Germany) are not listed with the M/C logo - so you are NOT !! allowed to use this M/C Kendas - I have a TOYO on the back, what should I take now for the front if there is nothing in this size available on the market ??

(but 12.000 miles now - without any other "real" problems !!)

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I see the size of the front tires really as one of the biggest problems of my Ryker, if you ryde on the other side of the world (Austria..) and get a problem like this here ..(in this case someone could help me) your holidays are to forget because of a small whole in your tire, three or four weeks to get a new one ....

on the other side, the tires in the official papers (for Germany) are not listed with the M/C logo - so you are NOT !! allowed to use this M/C Kendas - I have a TOYO on the back, what should I take now for the front if there is nothing in this size available on the market ??

(but 12.000 miles now - without any other "real" problems !!)

tire size - 145/90-16 ???? .... a " 90 " aspect ratio tire is something you only see on Genuine motorcycle tires ..... And Mtc's have Mtc tire beads .... the Ryker has " J " beads which are for auto tires ...ONLY .... be sure you know what you might be buying ...... Mike hyea:

 

[SportsterDoc]

Although there are several options for rear (205/45R16), the Can-Am dealer seems the only source for same size (145/60R16 for front).
The 145/60R16 are not even listed on a Kenda site...proprietary only to Can-Am...for now.

 

[SportsterDoc]

Chris56 (Austria) suggested 125/7016 tires in post 18
60% of 145 mm = 87 mm
70% of 125 mm = 87.5 mm

So, height, as he already documented, should be fine.
20 mm less width may be OK.

However, I am only finding temporary spares in that size.

Instructions are to run 60 PSI and limit speed to 50 MPH.

The load rating (at that PSI) is higher than stock tires, but it would be one rough ride and the speed rating is 81 MPH.

 

[SportsterDoc]

Called the dealer where I purchased my Ryker.
KR390 (standard), 2 in Las Vegas warehouse, $211.63 for the pair.
KR392 (rally), to be ordered from Canada, $212.39 for the pair.

Bring in the wheels, they will mount and balance, no charge.

Called the dealer nearest me, where I bought the CB1100
KR390 $213
KR392 $223.42
both are 2-3 weeks from Canada

Bring in the Ryker, (wheels on) and installation no charge.

No question about that, as that was done when I put Pirelli scrambler tires on my CB1100
Considering the cost for motorcycle tires, I won't complain about tires for the Ryker.

On the CB1100

Replaced stock Dunlops at 10,579 miles with Pirelli Scrambler tires.

MT60 RS 110/80-18 mfg # 2402500 H58 130 MPH 520#

List $221.95 Dennis Kirk $141.88

MT90 150/70-18 mfg # 1421900 V70 149 MPH 739#

List $228.95 Dennis Kirk $128.88

Front came from Dennis Kirk, rear from local Honda dealer (dealer could not get front for 2 months).

 

[tbohman56]

My understanding was that all Rykers have the same 16" front tires but the 900 and 600 ACE have 16" rims on the rear while the Rally has a 15" rim on the rear.

I just purchased a Rally and it has the black Ryker rims and tires, 16" front and back. What is the reason they went with the 15" rim on the Rally anyway?