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Need help with these Fobo 2 Issues - Valve Stems and BRP Connect

upsdoctor

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First issue... I bought the FOBO 2 for Trike and installed it using the factory rubber valve stems. After reading a few posts about how a TPMS sensor could rip the rubber valve stems off, I decided to have the FOBO chrome stems installed (came with the kit). Well as it turns out the FOBO stems will not work with the Can-Am wheels, they are too short and now I cannot reinstall the sensors. Has anyone else run into this issue? If so what specific valve stems did you use to correct it?

Second issue... It is documented in the forums that FOBO 2 does not work with BRP Connect. Does anyone have an update from Can-Am or FOBO regarding this issue? Has anyone gone back to the original FOBO software using the FOBO 2 sensors?

It is maddening to purchase such a simple product and have to spend time and money to un-****-it. I should have gone with the Garmin TPMS :gaah:

Thanks in advance, Bob
 
I dropped a line to FOBO last week about the BPR Connect integration. FOBO has submitted everything to BRP, and it's now in BRP's hands.

So... I submitted a "how's it coming" to BRP, and I'm still waiting for their reply.

If it's anything like other BRP bug fixes/mods... it'll be a while. :banghead:
 
I’m having the same issues. I can’t get the new sensors to work with the old software, although the new software will work with the old sensors. I asked FOBO when it make FOBO 2 compatible with BRP Connect, and this is what I got...

“We are still working with them to make it available for BRP Connect. At this stage, we have released few versions of the App for their side to test of the compatibility.”
 
FOBO works fine with stock rubber valve stems. My plan is to replace the stems every tire change to prevent any problems. Not sure there would be any problems anyway, as short as they are.

FOBO Bike 2 app released another upgrade today. As they have done on other recent updates, it shows under What's Pending: - BRP Connect Integration.
 
Received an email from BRP today (yeah, I know) and they said FOBO2 should work, and that I might need to get the latest firmware flashed on the RT... and to contact my dealer.

Anyone know what the current level of firmware is for a 2019 RT? IIRC, I'm sitting at v20.8, which I thought was the latest.
 
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Received an email from BRP today (yeah, I know) and they said FOBO2 should work, and that I might need to get the latest firmware flashed on the RT... and to contact my dealer.

Anyone know what the current level of firmware is for a 2019 RT? IIRC, I'm sitting at v20.8, which I thought was the latest.

v20.8 is supposed to be the latest for 2018-2019 Spyders.
 
I completely disagree with the "replace valve stem" recommendations and here's why.
I just upgraded my original FOBO with the newer version. There was nothing wrong with the originals, but I wanted the upgradable firmware and better battery life.
I used the original stems on the FOBO.
The first thing I did after removing the originals was to compare them to the FOBO 2.
The FOBO 2 sensor is smaller AND lighter than the originals.
Since FOBO did not make a "recommendation" to replace the stems for their original version and there would be less effect of centrifugal force on the smaller, newer versions, the recommendation given for FOBO 2 is at best a CYA and NOT supported by science.
Naturally, this is just an IMHO; you should do what you must, but it makes no sense to replace the OEM rubber stems with metal stems.

AJ
 
I called BRP last week about Connect and AccuWeather.

They stated "we're aware of AccuWeather and are working on it. But we didn't know about FOBO2." :yikes:

BRP should completely outsource their entire IT group instead of just the Connect developers (Bosch?).

Edit to add: I've only called them twice before and sent 3-5 emails on FOBO2. *sigh*
 
The shorter stems are for F3's as they won't fit on the OEM stems. For the RT's, just install them to the OEM stems. I have had them fitted that way for over 2 years with no problems. It's been known that FOBO II is ready for BRP C, but it's been over a year and there's still no updates. The 2020's have a different dash version due to all the different buttons. We're still waiting for an update for the 2018/19's. I've emailed them for months and all I get is "We're working on it" or "it's already been done" They just don't know what they're doing! Sad.
 
BRP should completely outsource their entire IT group instead of just the Connect developers (Bosch?).
*sigh*
:lecturef_smilie: But that would mess with the “see your dealer” CYA line they depend on so much! :sour: :roflblack: :roflblack:
 
... snip ... I bought the FOBO 2 for Trike and installed it using the factory rubber valve stems. After reading a few posts about how a TPMS sensor could rip the rubber valve stems off, I decided to have the FOBO chrome stems installed (came with the kit). Well as it turns out the FOBO stems will not work with the Can-Am wheels, they are too short and now I cannot reinstall the sensors. Has anyone else run into this issue? If so what specific valve stems did you use to correct it?

... snip ...

I realize this is an old thread, but it's the first time I've come across this issue of the FOBO chrome stems being too short for the OEM Spyder wheels. I'm concerned because I will be traveling almost 500 miles to have Joe Meyer do some work on my bike, including replacing the rear tire and installing the HawksHead metal T-valve stem for my FOBO.

Can anyone shed any light on this? Is it just certain Spyder model wheels that have a problem with metal stems? Is the problem of too short a stem on the inside of the wheel or the outside? What does 'too short' even mean in this context?

@BajaRon, do you have any experience with this issue? Joe M. apparently does not.

Thanks
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Can I start out by saying that over the last few decades, I have fitted quite a few of these 'FOBO/FOBO2' type TPMS kits to many Spyders &/or Rykers, and many similar TPMS kits/sensors to even more other vehicle types, and I can say that I've NEVER had any issues simply screwing the FOBO/FOBO2 sensors on instead of the original valve caps onto the OEM valve stems, regardless of whether they were short or long; not on an F3, not on an RT, not on a Ryker, nor any other motor vehicle, and very, very few of the owners of said Spyders/Rykers/other vehicles/vehicle types have ever come back to me and said they've caused issues later! It's gotta be an absofreakinlutely tiny percentage of owners who didn't just get them fitted and then use them, basically trouble free from the set to! :sneaky:

That said, waaaaay back in the early days of these sorts of sensors, last century some time, I DID have a few 'Tyre Dog' TPMS sensors (which are, for all intents and purposes, EXACTLY the same as the FOBO/FOBO2 sensor, right down to internal components being fully form, fit, and function inter-changable!) in a few very rare and quite specific usage instances, which had issues with the sensors being torn off LONG valve stems, both rubber &/or metal, but only when they were fitted onto long valve stems installed in exposed places on 4WD wheels that were being used in deep, loose, rough stuff. But AFAIK, none of that sorta usage applies to the pretty well recessed and protected Spyder/Ryker valve stems &/or their main usage, where sometimes, you might even need to leave the locking nut off the sensor so that it'll tighten down on the short valve stem sufficiently to work, in which case it works admirably! And just btw, I haven't yet found a valve stem that was too short to screw a FOBO/FOBO2 type TPMS Sensor onto either - if it's long enough and the end of the stem is exposed enough for anyone to physically reach it and screw a valve cap onto it, then it's long enough to accept a FOBO type sensor! :rolleyes:

So Pete, and I truly mean this in the kindest way, but I reckon that you should simply STOP reading about all this, AND JUST DO IT! You're chasing your own tail down a rabbit hole of your own making, finding all sorts of crap that, if you eventually get to read right to the end of said rabbit holes &/or the vast majority of threads about this stuff here, you'll find that pretty much none of it really matters all that much &/or has any real impact on what you're trying to do!! :oops:

So go on, JUST DO IT! ;)

You know you want to, so stop trying to find &/or convince yourself that it's really any harder than buying the FOBO/FOBO2 or whatever kit, taking the sensors and screwing them on. Sure, you might need to decide whether to bother with the locking nuts or not, but few have ever lost a sensor due to the lack of one of those nuts, and apart from making that decision, it truly isn't all that hard! And in the rather improbable event that you do end up having any issues, you can report back and be the first to actually SHOW us here what those issues are! (y)

But you don't need to buy trouble for yourself before any of it has ever happened, so don't sweat the small stuff; and btw, it's really ALL small stuff! Just Sayin' 😁

And then, you can... 'RIDE MORE, WORRY LESS!' 😆




Ps:
Personally, I wouldn't even bother with the 'T' valve stems! Once you've got FOBO or any similar TPMS fitted onto the OEM rims/valve stem with any reasonable quality tire, you most likely aren't going to need to get down there to check the air pressure all that often anyway; nor are you likely to need to physically access the rear valve stem anything much more than maybe once a season or so; and for the cost, time, effort, and trouble you'll be causing yourself simply by having those 'T' valve stems fitted, let alone all the angst you are putting yourself thru stressing about all this irrelevent crap, I reckon you'd be FAaaarrrrr better off without them! Just get the new tires and FOBO/TPMS fitted & set up on the OEM valve stems, and then truly...

just 'Ride more, Worry Less!' ;)
 
So NOW you tell me!

Actually I had decided to get the FOBO, Peter, based on some great advice from you on a different thread.

(Geez, I get criticized for not searching for and reading what has already been said on this forum about a topic I'm interested in. Then, I'm over-analyzing and over-thinking. What's a fellow to do?)

Thanks. I do appreciate you, Peter. You have a wealth of knowledge and you share it freely. And advice, like put down the damn phone and go ride the bike! And, I will, I will. I've just got to check into this one thing... won't be a minute...
 
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