Vredestein Quatrac 5

[Jbax]

Okay I need somebody to tell me what size I need to put on the front and back of my rt and psi . I ride two and pull a trailer sometimes . I so confused people are posting different sizes. Please help

 

[Spyderlass]

Okay I need somebody to tell me what size I need to put on the front and back of my rt and psi . I ride two and pull a trailer sometimes . I so confused people are posting different sizes. Please help

Ideally you need the standard size of tyre, unfortunately there is very few manufacturers make our size of tyre and of them the tyres they make are often not so desirable. So, if you want to keep your bike's VSS and ABS within it's design parameters you will be best selecting a tyre with as near as possible the same rolling radius as the original tyre's rolling radius.

There will be some tolerance for the rolling radius because tyres wear out and get smaller so they need to do more revolutions per mile as they wear out. IMHO, if an exact match in rolling radius is not available it is therefore better to select a tyre with a smaller diameter rather than a larger diameter. That equates to more turns per mile. Here is a link to a tyre calculator, in line 1 put the original equipment tyre size, in line 2 put the tyre size you are checking and then click on compare. https://tiresize.com/comparison/

If you're not happy with alternative tyres you find in the correct size and you want to make a change of tyre, you need to start investigating alternatives of a different size. When you find a tyre you're interested in and it comes in sizes approximate to the original tyres, you can enter your chosen size into the calculator and check whether you deem it suitable.

So, as an example, for the rear tyre line 1 will be: 225 - 50 - 15 (original size)
If you put 205 - 55 - 15 into line two you'll find that to be an almost exact match in rolling radius. Other sizes will vary, of course. Only you can decide what tyre and what size you are happy to accept. Obviously you need to repeat this for the front tyres too.

Again, only you know what type of tyre you need, eg. do you ride in rainy conditions, do you ride in snow occasionally, are you a fair weather rider etc. Choosing a winter or all-weather tread pattern wouldn't make sense if you mainly ride in summer in Texas!

To assist with a tyre choice it just happens that in the EU it is a legal requirement that tyres are tested and labeled with certain characteristics so buyers can make a better assessment than simply guessing or choosing a tyre because it looks good or is just a recommendation. The main parameters on the label are: Fuel economy, tyre noise, wet grip and a snowflake symbol if the tyre is classed for winter use.

This can be useful to you because if your choice of tyre is available also in Europe, and many of them will be, you can go to a European website and view the tyre characteristics since it is a legal requirement that they be stated. Here is a link to one site which I use frequently, though they don't necessarily carry all makes of tyre. https://www.oponeo.co.uk/

I'll post a picture of an actual tyre label so you can get a better idea how it is done. The label is attached to the tyre tread.

However, the final choice is yours. Good luck with it! :thumbup:

Edit: Green, Grade A is good, red is bad.

 

[Jbax]

Thanks for all the helpful information

 

[bigbadbrucie]

Well, I ordered my Vredestrein fronts on May 9th from QuattroTires out of Quebec, received them today. I went to my. Dealer and they will be mounting and balancing them tomorrow. Will let you know what I think of them once I have a few Km’s on them. Looking forward to replacing the Kenda’s. I’ll probably do the rear next year.

 

[wallburl]

2012 RT--my dealer is will switch my tires to Vresdestane Quatres5 and Tumho Ecsta rear Tuesday--no problem. His service guy says the car tire wall will or may, cause windshield bracket to break??? Had seen any such a report here. wallburl--Wichita Ks--Marine World Dealer.

 

[h0gr1der]

I can conclusively say, tongue in cheek, that my Vredesteins absolutely haven't killed me, broke the bike, or made the windshield bracket bust. The Kuhmo, on the other hand!!! Can't say. Seriously, if the tires balance out correctly, how could it possibly bust the bracket? Rougher ride? No way! The Vredesteins ride and handle better. The fronts are about 2 lbs lighter each, less unsprung weight.

 

[Peter Aawen]

2012 RT--my dealer is will switch my tires to Vresdestane Quatres5 and Tumho Ecsta rear Tuesday--no problem. His service guy says the car tire wall will or may, cause windshield bracket to break??? Had seen any such a report here. wallburl--Wichita Ks--Marine World Dealer.

Absolute bunkum & balderdash! :roflblack:

My windscreen bracket broke about 500km BEFORE I tossed the crappy Kendas in the bin at about 5000km! He's using a 'known weakness' to try and bulls***! people into thinking their tire choice had something to do with it!

Yes, it IS quite likely that your windshield bracket will break AT SOME TIME, but it's likely gonna do that regardless of your tire choice! I really wouldn't trust a tech who doles out that sorta rubbish any further than I could throw him, and I'd be marching into the Dealer Principal's office and telling him it's THAT sort of BS that's lost him yet another customer, before going elswhere PDQ! :lecturef_smilie: How can you trust someone who spreads obvious BS like that to do any reliable work on your Spyder, or on anything else for that matter!! :gaah:

Enjoy whatever tire you choose to fit, secure in the knowledge that your tire choice has ABSOLUTELY NO IMPACT on that windscreen bracket breaking or not! And if your windscreen bracket does happen to break (for entirely unrelated reasons) then send 'Noboot' here on the forum a msg/PM & get one of his billet replacements with all the necessary wedges & instructions to change it out too - they look pretty damn good and they WONT EVER break on you, tire choice notwithstanding! Only if you send him a msg in the next 5 weeks or so, it might take a bit of a while for him to get back to you - he's gone bush & will only have occasional phone/web access until he's back. :thumbup:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

2012 RT--my dealer is will switch my tires to Vresdestane Quatres5 and Tumho Ecsta rear Tuesday--no problem. His service guy says the car tire wall will or may, cause windshield bracket to break??? Had seen any such a report here. wallburl--Wichita Ks--Marine World Dealer.

I really like the Quatrac 5 tire …. Your STEALER is " lying " to you - period ….. The Kumho is OK , however many folks here have reported at about 1/2 worn the WET traction starts to get BAD ….. there are other better choices …… good luck …. Mike ……………...PS the front PSI is best at 15-16 …. the rear 17 - 18 …..

 

[PW2013STL]

At 17,000 miles my 205/55R15 S-drive rear tire hit the wear bars, so I mounted the Quatres 5 in 205/60R15 yesterday. Today did about 350 miles on it. The first thing I noticed was the softer ride. I assume that is due to the ratio difference as well as the softer sidewall on the Vresdestane. The grip was every bit as good as the S-drive, but with a more comfortable ride.

I am very pleased with these tires!
I am running the fronts at 16# and the rear at 18#

Side note this size is getting my mph reading to within 1 mph differance from my GPS, so at 61 on the Spyder my GPS reads 60. My wife's 2018 F3L with stock tires was reading the same on hers. We dropped her Spyder off at the dealer for its 3000 mile service and they let her take an 2019 F3L to ride. That one also read 61 at a GPS 60 on stock tires.
It appears that CanAm has adjusted them to be closer to the true speed. This means I will need to keep the replacement rear tire ratio closer to the 50 the stock tire has.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

At 17,000 miles my 205/55R15 S-drive rear tire hit the wear bars, so I mounted the Quatres 5 in 205/60R15 yesterday. Today did about 350 miles on it. The first thing I noticed was the softer ride. I assume that is due to the ratio difference as well as the softer sidewall on the Vresdestane. The grip was every bit as good as the S-drive, but with a more comfortable ride.

I am very pleased with these tires!
I am running the fronts at 16# and the rear at 18#

Side note this size is getting my mph reading to within 1 mph differance from my GPS, so at 61 on the Spyder my GPS reads 60. My wife's 2018 F3L with stock tires was reading the same on hers. We dropped her Spyder off at the dealer for its 3000 mile service and they let her take an 2019 F3L to ride. That one also read 61 at a GPS 60 on stock tires.
It appears that CanAm has adjusted them to be closer to the true speed. This means I will need to keep the replacement rear tire ratio closer to the 50 the stock tire has.

You said that the Vredestein had the same reading ( even tho it's a 60 sidewall ) ….. If you like the ride of the Vredestein ( :clap: ) ….. then I would stick with that tire ….. the Quatrac 5 has a better performance rating than the " S " drive and I believe it will last longer …… Mike hyea:

 

[PW2013STL]

You said that the Vredestein had the same reading ( even tho it's a 60 sidewall ) ….. If you like the ride of the Vredestein ( :clap: ) ….. then I would stick with that tire ….. the Quatrac 5 has a better performance rating than the " S " drive and I believe it will last longer …… Mike hyea:

Mike,

I will be staying with this tire as it does everything I want a Spyder tire to do!
Thank you for promoting this tire!!

Les

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike,

I will be staying with this tire as it does everything I want a Spyder tire to do!
Thank you for promoting this tire!!

Les

Your welcome ….. I don't consider what I say about tires is really " promoting " ….. it's more like Sharing knowledge, … Myself and Peter ( Aawen ) know more about tires ( from the science side of it ) than anyone else I know on this Forum...… Peter gives Excellent advice … I would follow Him to H*ll if He asked …:roflblack:.. Mike hyea:

 

[Spyderlass]

..Myself and Peter ( Aawen ) know more about tires ( from the science side of it ) than anyone else I know on this Forum...…

Oh, really? That's good to know... :banghead:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Oh, really? That's good to know... :banghead:

I'm glad you are happy or something …. it indicates you at the very least your alive …...:dontknow:...………. I realize you are or weren't happy about what I discovered about your Maxxis tyre ….. but you were the one Quoting Tyre tests, to begin with …… Mike hyea:

 

[Spyderlass]

... I realize you are or weren't happy about what I discovered about your Maxxis tyre …..

On the contrary, you didn't discover anything I didn't already know. You just thought you did.

 

[billythekidd]

Here is a nice site to compare tires. As with everything there will be multiple opinions. Scroll down until you find the manufacture you want and then click on the tire of your choice..

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/

 

[Jbax]

I just tried to find 205/60r15 Quatrc 5 on tirerake.com it came back it doesn’t make it in that size. How can everybody else get in that size but me

 

[h0gr1der]

I just tried to find 205/60r15 Quatrc 5 on tirerake.com it came back it doesn’t make it in that size. How can everybody else get in that size but me ����

The rear tire isn't at Tire Rack in the USA. I found mine at Vulcan Tire, but they had a 1 month ship time even if it was in stock.

 

[PW2013STL]

The rear tire isn't at Tire Rack in the USA. I found mine at Vulcan Tire, but they had a 1 month ship time even if it was in stock.

Same for me - but it's worth the wait!

 

[missouriboy]

I just read a customer review of the Vredestein Quatrac 5 from an unhappy camper who put a full set on his car. To wit:

June 06, 2019
The tire was an above average driving tire. Until it hit about 20000 miles. After that the noise is unreal. Cannot carry on a conversation, cannot even hear the radio. Turned into a miserable tire once it hit about 20000 miles. Not even usable. Upset at the tire manufacturer and upset at Tire Rack for selling me a tire that did not give usable drive after 20000 miles.

Now, if you can't hear the radio in a car, imagine what it would be like on the front of a Spyder!

So, does anyone yet have 20k miles on their front Quatracs? Noise?