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Sick Spyder -EBD VCS ABS codes

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Hello all,

Unfortunately I'm working with my dealership to fix my spyder under warranty. My 2008 Spyder has just over 7000 miles on it, and was purchased in June of 2008. I was headed out of my driveway on Saturday morning, and when I pulled over to my mailbox to check for mail the bike started flashing 3 different codes:

VCS
ABS
EBD

I pulled the bike back in the garage, and started to trouble shoot the obvious things, including fuses and relays with no luck. Everything checked out normal. Its about 25 miles to my dealership, so i had no choice but to "limp" my way at 48 miles per hour over to the dealership for a proper diagnosis. Their computer picked up 6 codes, but only 2 were active. They were both dealing with the ABS pump. The guys in service said that they would need to do a thorough inspection, and to leave it with them so they could continue to figure out how to get me back up and running.

Received a call today from the service manager, who said my bike had numerous electrical issues. He said that all of the connectors on my VCM module were severely corroded, and that the VCM module would need a complete replacement. Not only the VCM module would have to be replaced, but also that the plugs from the wire harness would have to be replaced. The service tech was not at all sure how long the VCM would take to get from canada, but would call me back to confirm the delivery. Whats odd about this, is that ive rarely ridden in the rain or wet conditions at all. Im pretty much a fair weather rider.

Last but not least he mentioned that there was an engine ground cable fix that was going to be done as well.

Im crossing my fingers that the part will be in later this week, and Im back up and running shortly. Just figures that right now is some of the nicest riding weather of the year here in Wisconsin.

I will keep you guys posted on how BRP and the dealership does with getting me back up and running.

JJ

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Could someone point out where the VCM module is for us, so we can check our connections before they fail? I'm being proactive, in case this is the start of a trend for something that affects driveability. Thank you.
 
I had a similar problem with Spyder#1 at about 3,300 miles. A connector to the VCM corroded from water splashing up from the road. The connector was not fitted properly. This was either a defective connector, or an improper installation at the factory. The repair was done under warranty.
 
Sick Spyder, no codes...

I bought my Spider (2009 SE-5, Red) on Friday. This morning, (Tuesday) I left it at the shop. The dreaded Steering Glitch, described adequately elsewhere in this forum, had almost tossed me off the machine a couple of times during my weekend of getting-acquainted riding. I also noticed a few rough shifts, including an unexpected automatic downshift into 2nd gear at about 32 mph.
(While discussing all this with my dealer, I also decided to get fog lights installed, along with a little luggage for the passenger seat.) After about an hour or so, I was told that the module responsible for the problems would be overnighted to the dealership. Happy to know I could pick up my machine tomorrow, I rode off on the dealer's own beautifully set-up demo machine.

(Been showing it to my friends and praising my dealer's very cooperative attitude. )

This evening, headed home from a club meeting, I stopped at a Waffle House for a little coffee and a small supper. When I went back out to the machine, I started it up normally, gave it a minute or so to warm up while I zipped jacket, strapped on helmet, and chatted happily with a half-dozen onlookers. I started backing out of my parking spot, got about half-way out of the slot and the machine just died!!! Nope, I didn't leave the parking brake on, didn't try to leave before warming it up a bit, didn't romp on it or try to burn out -- it just died. Can't get it out of reverse, can't start it, no error codes -- left it there, steering locked, and will call the dealer in the morning.

Can anybody give me a clue why these machines appear to be so touchy?
What could be wrong with the demo machine? I didn't want to start turning wrenches on somebody else's (unfamiliar) machine in the WH parking lot at 10 PM, or I would have tried disconnecting the battery to try to force a reset of some sort - would that have been a right or wrong thing to do?

I've been a motorcyclist 42 yrs, and am very impressed with the Spyder, but I am a bit nonplussed by how many failure modes they seem to have!!!
 
Did you step on the brake pedal when you tried to restart? It should start in gear with the brake pedal depressed.
 
Did you step on the brake pedal when you tried to restart? It should start in gear with the brake pedal depressed.

Yup, learned that trick on Friday - even that didn't work!! Tried with and without brake, with and without parking brake, tried physically rocking the machine back and forth to try and get the shift to work, tried about everything short of breaking out the toolkit ....
 
kill switch?.....sorry had to ask:opps:

LOL - that's OK - logical question - checked that, no joy ....
I do appreciate that you whispered, tho' -- if I had forgotten about kill switch, I would have been SO chagrined ...

I have been a motorcyclist long enough to check that first....
 
uhhhhh . . .

. . . . there only seems to be one common factor. ;)

( and I am not talking about the Waffle House! )


Very strange.

Tom
 
Sick Spyder, be healed!

Well, sure enough, the Spyder ambulance made it to the scene of last night's minor tragedy, and the victim seems to have recovered all by himself!! The beautiful creature started right up this morning, and I rode it back to the dealer with no further problems ...:dontknow: ...

Mine has been completed (for now) with the installation of fog lights and a passenger-seat bag. The replacement of the module seems to have fixed the steering problems I was having, and I happily got my :spyder2: up to 70 on a back road on my way home from a friend's place tonight. The extra lights are a big help! The steering felt good, not like I was skating around, and it never tried to pull me wide in the turns. Good fix, and huge thanks to my dealer, Tomberlin in Augusta, GA. So far, they've bent over backwards to ensure my Spyder experience is a good one!!
 
Yup, learned that trick on Friday - even that didn't work!! Tried with and without brake, with and without parking brake, tried physically rocking the machine back and forth to try and get the shift to work, tried about everything short of breaking out the toolkit ....
SilverBear, the next time your SE5 sticks in gear, break out the tool pouch, get a 13mm wrench and shift it manually, following the procedure shown on page 102 of your operator's guide.
 
SilverBear, the next time your SE5 sticks in gear, break out the tool pouch, get a 13mm wrench and shift it manually, following the procedure shown on page 102 of your operator's guide.

Thankee, Neez -- can an old lady do that procedure in a parking lot at 10 PM?:joke: -- seriously, if it had not been someone else's bike, I would have thought about trying that, as I DID see it in the manual. Wonder how hard it is to do that in the dark for the first time. I was concerned I might mess up the lovely demo bike, but it is good to know that it can be done.

Thanks again, and thanks to everybody who replied. I see that the Spyder involves a steep learning curve - something I enjoy as much as Ryding is learning stuff! :2thumbs:
 
Thankee, Neez -- can an old lady do that procedure in a parking lot at 10 PM?:joke: -- seriously, if it had not been someone else's bike, I would have thought about trying that, as I DID see it in the manual. Wonder how hard it is to do that in the dark for the first time. I was concerned I might mess up the lovely demo bike, but it is good to know that it can be done.

Thanks again, and thanks to everybody who replied. I see that the Spyder involves a steep learning curve - something I enjoy as much as Ryding is learning stuff! :2thumbs:
It's utterly simple and easy. Practice it in daylight so you'll be ready anywhere. And maybe carry one of those little LED flashlights in the trunk.
 
I had a similar problem with Spyder#1 at about 3,300 miles. A connector to the VCM corroded from water splashing up from the road. The connector was not fitted properly. This was either a defective connector, or an improper installation at the factory. The repair was done under warranty.


Still no word from the lealership on my repairs for this problem. Hurting!
 
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