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Ryder mirror opinions!!!

Had the stock mirrors. Kewl Metal Extensions well worth the money.

I turn my head too. Mirrors are not designed to replace looking around a bit. But the human head is not designed to rotate 180 degrees. Good mirrors are a great safety tool.

You really need to see behind you better than you can with the stock setup.

The riser kit was another big improvement all around. Really don't know why BRP doesn't do this stock. With the risers you can go to handle bar mount mirrors.

The handle bar mount mirrors are another quantum imporvement. They give much more viewable area and really work great for backing up too(something that I did not expect).

Ron, I agree, the only "but" is that after some fiddling around with the stock mirror adjustment, I can see directly behind me. If I balance a book on the BRP inset on the tail, I can see it. In general, I do sit more forward than most riders - maybe that is the explanation.

If I put on a set of raisers, my field of vision will probably change and I will look at the mirror extensions. As it is now, the only 'blind' spot I experience is just over my shoulders, which is made worse with my full face helmet.

Live and adjust.

Tom
 
First, I am not minimizing the need for good mirrors on any vehicle, but when it comes to motorcycles, the data shows that the greatest risks are from the front. 77% of accidents come from 11 - 1 o'clock and 94% from 9 - 3 o'clock. Just 6% are from the rear with only 3% from 6 o'clock. That does not mean that you do not need to see behind you, but every second you are looking in the mirror is a second that something in front may get you. I keep my head active and check mirrors with glances especially to the sides. Being rear ended may be no less painful than being hit from another angle, it is just statistically less likely.
 
First, I am not minimizing the need for good mirrors on any vehicle, but when it comes to motorcycles, the data shows that the greatest risks are from the front. 77% of accidents come from 11 - 1 o'clock and 94% from 9 - 3 o'clock. Just 6% are from the rear with only 3% from 6 o'clock. That does not mean that you do not need to see behind you, but every second you are looking in the mirror is a second that something in front may get you. I keep my head active and check mirrors with glances especially to the sides. Being rear ended may be no less painful than being hit from another angle, it is just statistically less likely.


:agree:Great point! :agree:

But you should let ladies do all the mods they want. They can't help it, it is in their nature. I always liked my wife the way she is but she is being trying to "mod" me since we met.

J
 
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:agree:Great point! :agree:

But you should let ladies do all the mods they want. They can't help it, it is in their nature. I always liked my wife the way she is but she is being trying to "mod" me since we met.

J

:roflblack: Now that right there is funny. I don't care where you're from!:D

Bruce
 
Ron, I agree, the only "but" is that after some fiddling around with the stock mirror adjustment, I can see directly behind me. If I balance a book on the BRP inset on the tail, I can see it. In general, I do sit more forward than most riders - maybe that is the explanation.

If I put on a set of raisers, my field of vision will probably change and I will look at the mirror extensions. As it is now, the only 'blind' spot I experience is just over my shoulders, which is made worse with my full face helmet.

Live and adjust.

Tom

I could have lived with the stock setup. It isn't terrible. But I did have to spend a bit more time moving my head around to see everything I felt I needed to.

The extensions allowed me to see more with less adjustment of my head. I could get a better view in less time. I thought they were great and probably would not have changed to the handle bar mirrors if Lamont had not been so happy with his.

I really didn't see that the handle bar mounted mirrors would be all that much better. But once they were mounted I found them to be a big improvement.

Its one of those things that I didn't know what I was missing until I tried it. I'm not saying any of it is necessary. Just a very noticable improvement for me.
 
Bar end mirrors

Has anyone tried Bar end mirrors.and if yes, what was the verdict on them. I have never considered them before because they increase the width of a motorbike. The width of the Spyder blows that argument out of the way.
Bob
 
Lamont and I were able to talk to some tech and management people in Valcort at the Spyder ride in last year. We asked them about the mirrors (and other things).

They told us they didn't particularly like the mirror placement either. But that the current extensions were the maximum they could do within US regulations.

It may be the T-Rex falls under different statues than our Spyder. I think that is very likely.

There is a process that allows a manufacturer to circumvent regulation requirements. And BRP started this process. But they found it time consuming as well as expensive and there was no guarantee that a varience would be granted when they were all done.

They said when it became obvious that this legal process was going to hold up the release of the Spyder they abandonded the effort.

I guess you could say it's been good for Kewl Metal.

And these are the people that we want running our health care? (Oops, sorry, I can't say that here so don't read that last statement).
 
Lamont and I were able to talk to some tech and management people in Valcort at the Spyder ride in last year. We asked them about the mirrors (and other things).

They told us they didn't particularly like the mirror placement either. But that the current extensions were the maximum they could do within US regulations.

It may be the T-Rex falls under different statues than our Spyder. I think that is very likely.

There is a process that allows a manufacturer to circumvent regulation requirements. And BRP started this process. But they found it time consuming as well as expensive and there was no guarantee that a varience would be granted when they were all done.

They said when it became obvious that this legal process was going to hold up the release of the Spyder they abandonded the effort.

I guess you could say it's been good for Kewl Metal.

And these are the people that we want running our health care? (Oops, sorry, I can't say that here so don't read that last statement).


No, we don't want them running our healthcare, even though we can't say that here...but it is a valid topic as motorcycle riders do, on occasion, need medical care...and it'd stink to have to wait 10 hours for care for injuries due to a bad crash and be told you're too old for care. :yikes:
 
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