Bob Denman
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:shocked: I think that I might just leave the Dimples in the desk, and order some Gold Plugs... nojoke
One thing that I DON'T want; is trouble!
One thing that I DON'T want; is trouble!
Bob, why people even use a Torque wrench on an OIL PLUG is beyond :banghead: ..... The amount of OIL pressure isn't very much so wrench tight is plenty tight enough.....if you see a drop of OIL on the floor tighten it a bit more.......jmho...Mike :thumbup::shocked: I think that I might just leave the Dimples in the desk, and order some Gold Plugs... nojoke
One thing that I DON'T want; is trouble!
.:lecturef_smilie:....Now that's something I can understand :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: ............ Due to this thread I think everyone has learned something very important ......Maybe even " DIMPLE " :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:..........The small difference in Magnet size and it's ability to attract metal particles ( which is infinitesimal ) appears to make a MAJOR difference in the over-all STRENGTH of the THREAD WALL ....... and not just mho .... Mike :thumbup:Do you actually think that the Missus would let me anywhere NEAR the bike with a torque wrench?
She barely lets me check the tire pressures...pps:
I'd be worried about what the techs at my dealership would do... nojoke
........Even tho they have that great HEX head ..... when you put the socket on give it a decent rap with a hammer to break the varnish SEAL........Mike :thumbup:I got the "gold plugs" today and put them in. They fit great, look great, and work well. I am so glad to have gotten them today, my Spyder sat for 3 days and I couldn't ride it. The plugs are so much easier to tighten and remove, they have a head on each. One is a 15mm and the other is a 17 mm. In about 9000 miles, I am sure they will be very easy to remove.
I once opined to her, that it would be nice to change the Spyder's oil on my own...
:shocked: It got ReAlLy ugly!
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There's not a whole lot of things, that I wish I had never said... THAT; was one of them!pps:
I got the "gold plugs" today and put them in. They fit great, look great, and work well. I am so glad to have gotten them today, my Spyder sat for 3 days and I couldn't ride it. The plugs are so much easier to tighten and remove, they have a head on each. One is a 15mm and the other is a 17 mm. In about 9000 miles, I am sure they will be very easy to remove.
PM me your mailing address... they're yours! :thumbup:Can I have your Dimples, I may need spares.
Very good choice to get rid of them. You couldn't pay me enough to use dimple plugs.PM me your mailing address... they're yours! :thumbup:
My dimple failed on install as did spyderryder53FWIW, in a sad way, had they done a better method on the original design from Rotax / BRP the issue would not be a concern. Using a metal gasket to seal a drain in the modern era is for cost cutting. The drain plug itself and the mating surface should have been designed to use a Loc-O-Seal or an O ring. With that system snug plus is all it takes.
The measured dimensions on the the Dimple Plug of over .070" is not bad. Also consider that the depth of the thinned portion is not to the bottom of the threaded area. So under torque, several threads of full strength are securing the drain plug.
The entire breakage issue has happened and is real, no doubt.
Unless the Dimple drain plugs are failing immediately on install and not during removal this would indicate a weak drain lug. If however the drain plug fails on removal, possibly the drain plug has bonded itself via the oil or galled to the aluminum, causing it to have a failure not related to tension while installing, but rather a torsional force and tension while being removed.