Just making sure before I order this t**e

[PW2013STL]

I know everyone hates tire threads, but I just want to make sure this is the correct size for the rear of my 2015 RT.

I'm close to 16,000 miles on my Spyder, and the tread on the rear tire is at 4mm. I was hoping to go at least a year on the rear tire, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. I've been following many of the tire threads, and have concluded that the General Altimax is the best choice for me.

This is the tire that I found on Amazon. Please let me know this is the correct size before I click on the order button. Please, no arguments about my choice of tire, I just want to verify the size.

Thanks!

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E5B2JX6...TF8&colid=2ZQONV6VSHA3R&coliid=I3HP1UQ5QFD4TK

Hi Pampurrs,

Now back to your question. That is the size I have on and it does make the speedo reading closer to my GPS.

I will share my expeareance with this tire. Up to 14,000 miles it was a great tire, but my wife started to notice tire slippage after that. It now has 17,000 miles on it and even though it looks good I consider it too slippery in mosture to be safe so I will be changing to a different brand before riding season starts.
I will be interested in the expeareance of others running this tire as they get around the 14,000 mile mark.

 

[Bob Denman]

Even the OEM Kenda starts to give up some grip, once the tread gets a bit "skinny"...
I tired a Falken, and it REALLY lost traction, as it wore down. I think that this is simply what any reasonably wide tire is going to do, when it's stuffed underneath a relatively light vehicle.
Just watch your tread depths, and you should be fine! :thumbup:

 

[jaherbst]

Hi Pampurrs,

Now back to your question. That is the size I have on and it does make the speedo reading closer to my GPS.

I will share my expeareance with this tire. Up to 14,000 miles it was a great tire, but my wife started to notice tire slippage after that. It now has 17,000 miles on it and even though it looks good I consider it too slippery in mosture to be safe so I will be changing to a different brand before riding season starts.
I will be interested in the expeareance of others running this tire as they get around the 14,000 mile mark.

I was and am under the impression that M/C tires are of a softer compound for better traction in corners and braking. Harder compounds are much less safe in wet weather also. I am more concerned about the safety and not the mileage I get from tires. If I get anywhere near 10,000 miles on my M/C's or Spyder I am satisfied. After all your tires are what is between you and the pavement. I want the best traction not the mileage. Like everything else in this world, "you buy the ticket and take your chances". Life is simply multiple choices.

Jack

 

[Bob Denman]

Jack,
You might be right... for the typical motorcycle tire. :shocked: With it's rounded profile and very small contact surface; it's pretty reasonable to assume that they'll soften the compound to gain grip.
As you know; Spyders are unlike other motorcycles, and use a completely different tire design. They corner like a car, and it would seem equally reasonable to assume that their tires would (or should) reflect that similarity.
Regarding tire life:
My OEM Kenda lasted 5,700 miles. I look for a bit more tire-life, and would be pretty happy, if the rear would last 12,000 miles or so. (enough for at least two seasons of riding.)
I remember having to change rear motorcycle tires at 4 to 5 thousand miles... I never liked the down-time. :gaah:

 

[PW2013STL]

I was and am under the impression that M/C tires are of a softer compound for better traction in corners and braking. Harder compounds are much less safe in wet weather also. I am more concerned about the safety and not the mileage I get from tires. If I get anywhere near 10,000 miles on my M/C's or Spyder I am satisfied. After all your tires are what is between you and the pavement. I want the best traction not the mileage. Like everything else in this world, "you buy the ticket and take your chances". Life is simply multiple choices.

Jack

Jack,

I agree and was the first thing we (wife and I) noticed when we switch to a car tire. Our Sypder handled much much better. With the OEM tire in fast curves the rear would skip out and I would have to slow down in order to not make my wife sick.
While in Colorado two years ago ( Owners Event) I had the dealer put on a Kumho car tire and then picked up my wife so we could ride the million dollar hi way and the fist thing she asked me is I had done something to the shocks as it road so much better. I was also able to drive that road a lot faster with out complaint from the wife.

When I owned and rode two wheelers I never would even consider putting a car tire on, but as Bob pointed out our Spyders driving force on the tires is closer to a car then a two wheel motorcycle.

Les

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

SEC 119 - MTC TIRES & RIMS

I think I came up with the answer here: http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?87196-Tires&p=1052945&viewfull=1#post1052945.

....This is very interesting, and you [Quoted ] my post in your answer.......But did you read my ENTIRE post......My understanding of Sec 119....contradicts what BRP is doing.....They are putting a Motorcycle ( bead ) tire on Car (bead ) RIM....according to Sec. 119 you can't just mix & match..................Awhile back someone posted comparision pictures of the rims of Motorcycle wheels and Car wheels and they are quite different ........They also posted pics of the Spyder Rim....that matched the Car Rim.......................Mike :thumbup:

 

[jaherbst]

Jack,

I agree and was the first thing we (wife and I) noticed when we switch to a car tire. Our Sypder handled much much better. With the OEM tire in fast curves the rear would skip out and I would have to slow down in order to not make my wife sick.
While in Colorado two years ago ( Owners Event) I had the dealer put on a Kumho car tire and then picked up my wife so we could ride the million dollar hi way and the fist thing she asked me is I had done something to the shocks as it road so much better. I was also able to drive that road a lot faster with out complaint from the wife.

When I owned and rode two wheelers I never would even consider putting a car tire on, but as Bob pointed out our Spyders driving force on the tires is closer to a car then a two wheel motorcycle.

Les

Probably some truth to that. Seems like Bob is having terrible luck with his tires. Perhaps a few less "wheelies" would be the "order of the day". I guess I don't ride hard enough but usually get 10,000 on Spyders or M/C tires. On my Spyders I ride with #30 on the rear and #20 in the front and usually about 4-5 pounds over recommended on the M/C. Not saying this has anything to do with mileage but any tire that is run too low on pressure will suffer low mileage.

I think all this started with the early tires from Kenda and they have since changed the compound and recommended Pressure to make for an improvement. Riding style is probably the biggest factor in tire wear IMO.

Jack

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: The way that I ride; the tires should last long enough to dry rot off of the rims... nojoke
Ask anyone who rides with me: they're doing this :gaah::gaah::gaah::gaah::gaah: , all of the time. pps:

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

....This is very interesting, and you [Quoted ] my post in your answer.......But did you read my ENTIRE post......My understanding of Sec 119....contradicts what BRP is doing.....They are putting a Motorcycle ( bead ) tire on Car (bead ) RIM....according to Sec. 119 you can't just mix & match..................Awhile back someone posted comparision pictures of the rims of Motorcycle wheels and Car wheels and they are quite different ........They also posted pics of the Spyder Rim....that matched the Car Rim.......................Mike :thumbup:

Has anyone taken a typical motorcycle tire and a Spyder tire and done a cross section comparison of the beads? I really doubt the Kenda on the Spyder has a typical m/c bead since the rim bead is not a typical m/c rim bead. The Spyder rim bead is not exactly same as a car rim bead. It's close, but not the same. Just because a Kenda is labeled "Motorcycle Use Only" doesn't automatically mean it's suitable for all motorcycles. I'm sure the tire and rim were specifically designed for each other for the Spyder. The FMVSS requires that tires not intended for automobile use be properly identified. Maybe the Kendas should be labeled "Can Am Spyder Use Only" but that may not fit the FMVSS guidelines. :dontknow:

 

[Bob Denman]

Robmorg did a comparison; you might want to PM him about it. :thumbup:

 

[Highwayman2013]

:bdh::bdh::bdh:

 

[jaherbst]

Has anyone taken a typical motorcycle tire and a Spyder tire and done a cross section comparison of the beads? I really doubt the Kenda on the Spyder has a typical m/c bead since the rim bead is not a typical m/c rim bead. The Spyder rim bead is not exactly same as a car rim bead. It's close, but not the same. Just because a Kenda is labeled "Motorcycle Use Only" doesn't automatically mean it's suitable for all motorcycles. I'm sure the tire and rim were specifically designed for each other for the Spyder. The FMVSS requires that tires not intended for automobile use be properly identified. Maybe the Kendas should be labeled "Can Am Spyder Use Only" but that may not fit the FMVSS guidelines. :dontknow:

I think you might be onto something here but no one is going to admit it on this forum.

Jack

 

[Bob Denman]

Kenda is also the OEM supplier for the SlingShot as well...

 

[Rohaianan]

Mileage on tires and where to have them replaced. New owner here.

It seems that pretty much everyone hates the Kenda stock tires. What kind of mileage are people typically getting? How and where can you take your Spyder to have the tires replaced? It seems like a lot of riders are seeing speedometer accuracy issues.
Oh and to keep on topic my RT has 60 miles in it; and I have no idea what size it takes

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

It seems that pretty much everyone hates the Kenda stock tires. What kind of mileage are people typically getting? How and where can you take your Spyder to have the tires replaced? It seems like a lot of riders are seeing speedometer accuracy issues.
Oh and to keep on topic my RT has 60 miles in it; and I have no idea what size it takes

There is pretty good acceptance of the OEM Kendas for the front tires. Typical mileage on them is in the mid 20k range. It's the rear tire that almost everyone disses and wants to replace with an alternative. I haven't read any comments yet on the mileage of the rear tire for 2015 and 2016. The one for 2013 & '14 was softer and mileage was in the order of 6500 to 8000. 2012 and earlier did 10k + but the rubber was changed in 2013, and again in 2015.

 

[Bob Denman]

5700 miles out of the rear sneaker on my 2014
7000 miles out of the one that came on my 2010.

 

[Pampurrs]

5700 miles out of the rear sneaker on my 2014
7000 miles out of the one that came on my 2010.

:yikes: I guess I shouldn't complain. I'm coming up on 16,000 on my OEM tire with 4mm of tread depth remaining.

Pam

 

[Bob Denman]

I'm figuring that my 2014's tire was one with the "new & improved" compound...
It's probably the roads up here; they're always pretty chopped-up.
Honestly; I ride the bike like an old woman on her way home from Church... nojoke

 

[Pampurrs]

I apologize

I'm sorry everyone, I truly am. I didn't intend to start another tire thread. :chat:

:shemademe_smilie: Pam

 

[jaherbst]

I'm sorry everyone, I truly am. I didn't intend to start another tire thread. :chat:

:shemademe_smilie: Pam

Your almost forgiven Pam. Its not you really, it's the feeding frenzy this group gets into when mentioning any thing about tires or oil. :gaah:

Jack